Advice needed on moving up

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I currently play 4 tables of 10nl 6max. I seem to be able to beat it (only over 40K hands, which is not that many but still...). I want to take a shot, but I'm not sure how to go about it. Opening up 4 tables of 25nl seems a little bit risky, so I've started by just swapping in one table of 25nl. So far so bad. Is there another way to consider? Or should I just keep with it?
 

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Move up should be fine imo.. rolled easily, although if you dont feel you are playing properly at 25nl wait for a while until you are sure imo.
 
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if you dont feel you are playing properly at 25nl wait for a while until you are sure imo.
I think you've hit the nail on the head there. But I'm not sure how to learn to play well at 25 without actually playing at 25. I do study quite a bit. For example, I'm reading the qtip books at the moment. I dunno, I feel like I've become stale, because beating 10 involves mostly vbetting the hell out of TPTK+, and folding to aggression... easy game.

The main thing I've noticed that is different at 25 is the aggression on all streets is higher. Squeezing, checkraising and river bluffs going on all over the place. I found myself more than once calling down a crazy bluffer type with made hand only to find out he had the nuts, bugger!

I guess I'll just continue trying to carefully select one table at 25 and see if I can mix it up with the big(ger) boys :)
 
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Keep going with it. You are rolled plenty in my opinion, and I actually think it may do you well to open up 2-4 tables like you have been playing at 10nl. The reasoning for this is that you don't end up leveling yourself -- while the play is probably more aggressive, you may be making too many over-adjustments and overthinking things at one table to try to counter this which might take you off your game.

Just make sure you set a stop loss point to move back down to 10nl if things aren't working out or if you encounter a lot of negative variance. Also keep in mind the swings in more aggressive games can be larger -- that's just the nature of the game.
 
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When taking shots Ill decrease the number of tables for a few sessions just to get a feel. Ie if I play 4 10NL I will play 2 25NL just to get some sort of feel. Depending on what you think, you can mix as a "transition" phase by playing x of 10NL and x tables of 25NL until those all become 25NL.
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Thanks for your advice guys. Much to think about.

Over-adjustments and over-thinking ring true for sure.
 
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you may consider playing 3 10nl tables and 1 25nl table at a time until you get comfortable. then adjust to two tables per limit until you play all the tables with 25nl.always remember to check your BR and never be ashamed going back down the 10nl if things didn't go as planned.
 
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you may consider playing 3 10nl tables and 1 25nl table at a time until you get comfortable. then adjust to two tables per limit until you play all the tables with 25nl.always remember to check your BR and never be ashamed going back down the 10nl if things didn't go as planned.
Cheers for the advice. That's almost exactly how I planned it and also exactly what ended up happening. I'm now back to 10nl because I lost like $150 at 25nl and was feeling decidedly uncomfortable. So I'll take my next shot when I get back on my feet at 10nl.
 
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Good luck to you with your plans in climbing up the levels.
Iam still far awy from this point, just trying to beat the 10NL limit (atm Iam somewhat playing breakeaven I guess)
 
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Cheers for the advice. That's almost exactly how I planned it and also exactly what ended up happening. I'm now back to 10nl because I lost like $150 at 25nl and was feeling decidedly uncomfortable. So I'll take my next shot when I get back on my feet at 10nl.
kudos to you on staying where your at proper brm is something I am struggling with at the moment
 
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The main thing I've noticed that is different at 25 is the aggression on all streets is higher. Squeezing, checkraising and river bluffs going on all over the place. I found myself more than once calling down a crazy bluffer type with made hand only to find out he had the nuts, bugger!

Interesting. At FTP I only find this at 50NL. At 25NL, a big bet on any street is seldom a bluff.

Stars' games are definitely tougher.
 
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