Advice on floating/folding to much post flop

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Just looking for some advice/articles/videos on floating a bit more as I feel I do give up on pots a little easy sometimes. This is related to Zoom without reads as I am fairly confident in my game when sitting at a normal table and can slowly learn player types.
Im just playing zoom at the moment to get enough volume to unlock bonus fast.

Basically I feel in pots where im not the aggressor, which isnt often as I prefer to 3bet/fold pre flop unless IP, I struggle to hold on against aggression especially at the turn. Just wondering what is a go to type strategy for facing aggression on the turn from unknown players.
I guess im mainly talking pots with 99 on A or K high flop where a lot of regs are barrelling at the ace with or without it.
I just dont want to be pushed around but struggling to find the perfect line between becoming a calling station or being too passive.
 
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Its awkward to answer this because it's all very situational, and stake dependent.

Look at the flop texture and think about what draws villain could have and what makes sense.

Say you are holding 9s 9d and the flop comes Kd 8d 5s, you check call turn and 7c rolls off and villain bets again. You know that villain can't have A9d, 910d, 89d or J9d and you can knock off some other combo's of 910. Those are all hands you would want villain to be semi bluffing with so in that situation I would fold.

Where as of you had 9c9s all the villains 9x diamond draws would still be live so its more incentive to make the call and play rivers.

in zoom its also important to build up a database of notes on players and work out opening ranges, cbet frequency and VPIP. If you know a player has a high percentage C bet on flop and turn but shuts down on rivers then at times you need to hang on. But if you know a player rarely cbets turn with less than top pair its a fold.

Also most decent regs are not 3 barrelling OOP with air at lower stakes simply because they get called down too often.
 
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I agree with what the first reply said, its very hard to help without knowing stakes/stack depth/positions ect.

I think we could give you better feedback if you could think up a full scenario for us to break down.

In addition, you may be playing preflop too passively if you are unsure where youre at in the hand. 99 makes a great 3-bet for instance, narrows your opponents range and gets you heads up.
 
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Yea you are suppose to ONLY float in POSITION...also consider check raising atleast 4x c-bets without draw boards. When you float you are suppose to bet when they check to you on the turn....you must bet as this is their moment of telling you to take the pot.
 
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Agree with blair.
Consider the board texture. & the V's stats. After you play for some time at the same stakes, you can easily develop some readings based on the stats. So use a hud.
Add stuff like check raising, bluff raising, overbetting, thin value betting to your arsenal.
And play blockers & combos considering their position.
small ex -on a fairly dry board like Q72 rainbow it's very unlikely the v could have 2 pair.

Yea you are suppose to ONLY float in POSITION...also consider check raising atleast 4x c-bets without draw boards. When you float you are suppose to bet when they check to you on the turn....you must bet as this is their moment of telling you to take the pot.

Do not agree with what's here. There's no "supposed to" thing in poker. One hand could be played in many different ways. What's important is you find a balanced line that's profitable in long term.
 
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Really depends on villain. If the other guy isn't paying attn then there's no point to float.

Also consider board texture. Try boards are tougher to float with. If you float be prepared to follow through when the right cards fall.
 
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