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So a hand quickly,
1$/2$ nl holdem,
4 handed my stack 214 opponent stack 179.
I am on the cutoff and villian on SB.
I picked up JQ off and decided to limp from cutoff, all 4 players limp to flop.
Flop comes 3 10 Q two hearts and one spade giving me top pair.
Villian from SB bets 4 into pot of 8,
I make it 20 two players fold and actions back on them.
He/she calls, turn is a k of spades putting backdoor flush draw there.
Villian checks i bet full pot of 48.
They call, pot is now 144$
Rivet is 9 of spades completing backdoor flush draw but also giving me straight.
Now he/she checks again i thought for a while and went all in because i thought i might have the best habd because if he called my raise it would have been most likely for main hearts flush draw and the opponent is a proper calling station so i thought that he/she might call me with any two pair and also i had queen of spades blocking many spades combo.
So the reason behind all in as my 60% stack was alo on table.
Opponent calls and shows A10 of spades l,
Scooping 400$ pot.
Where did i play this wrong?
 
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I prefer raising from the cutoff here. The flop is played well. I would probably bet smaller on the turn, your kicker isn't great and the K hits a lot of villains hands. Then I am checking back the river. You are really only getting called by hands that chop or beat you.
 
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I prefer raising from the cutoff here. The flop is played well. I would probably bet smaller on the turn, your kicker isn't great and the K hits a lot of villains hands. Then I am checking back the river. You are really only getting called by hands that chop or beat you.
Do you think i should have gone for pot control with this kicker?
And only call till river?
 
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Never limp preflop and check the river because you have showdown value but they could have the flush, so your only gonna get called by a better hand (as Gildog already said). I guess they probably still would have called a preflop raise, but your letting the BB see a free flop and probably pricing everyone else in.
 
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So a hand quickly,
1$/2$ nl holdem,
4 handed my stack 214 opponent stack 179.
I am on the cutoff and villian on SB.
I picked up JQ off and decided to limp from cutoff, all 4 players limp to flop.
Flop comes 3 10 Q two hearts and one spade giving me top pair.
Villian from SB bets 4 into pot of 8,
I make it 20 two players fold and actions back on them.
He/she calls, turn is a k of spades putting backdoor flush draw there.
Villian checks i bet full pot of 48.
They call, pot is now 144$
Rivet is 9 of spades completing backdoor flush draw but also giving me straight.
Now he/she checks again i thought for a while and went all in because i thought i might have the best habd because if he called my raise it would have been most likely for main hearts flush draw and the opponent is a proper calling station so i thought that he/she might call me with any two pair and also i had queen of spades blocking many spades combo.
So the reason behind all in as my 60% stack was alo on table.
Opponent calls and shows A10 of spades l,
Scooping 400$ pot.
Where did i play this wrong?



I picked up JQ off and decided to limp from cutoff, all 4 players limp to flop
WHY???????
 
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I am fine with raising flop, but since you limped preflop, you have absolutely no idea where you are. The limp is really bad imo. When you get called on the flop, the king is a bad card for you. I am ok with betting smaller or checking back the turn for pot control. I'm never betting the river.
 
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I would bet the flop-check-check/call up to $25 for information.

I would check the turn and reevaluate opponent's hand range because of kicker, K hit, and back door flush and double flush also presented. At the moment, your pair QQ with J kicker was facing a lot of value hands compare to bluff hands. In addition, the board is so wet that I would not bet the turn with JQo. Any 9J were completed on the turn and he/she may slow play his/her straight. Even though he did not have 9J, villain is on a hugh draw.
You completed the straight when the 9 of spade showed up on the river. I would check at this point since that straight were in for a chop to loose. Q of spade is a blocker if you raised the hand pre-flop, but a limp pot. It is also depend on if the Villain is a loose player or not.

There is so much information is missing in your scenario.
"3 10 Q two hearts and one spade" which two are hearts
Opponent status (tight,loose, or maniac)
 
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I'm not a fan of the flop raise, you effectively turned your hand into a bluff. Flatting to see what happened on the turn would have controlled the pot while also protecting your range.


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JQo from CO is a fold !
 
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I think now that the hand is over if you think about what you had versus what could beat you then the only move you could have done better was just checking the river. You only had the 3rd best hand. So if you are ok with shoving with that then by all means forget what i said but if you now realize that you only had the 3 best hand than maybe you can see why i would have checked the river and took what i was given or lost 60% of my stack instead of 80 or 90% .
 
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Things I would have done differently here.

River, check I don't see anything calling that doesn't have you beat or that should fear the board and fold.

Turn, betting here should be higher to take the odds away and make calling a very tough and bad decision at the time.

Preflop I hate limping and min raising here I would raise to 6 unless I know something more about the BB that would change that. I really do not want him to stay in the pot.
 
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