6 Max vs Full rine

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I play at tables 6 max


It's where I feel most comfortable.

My question is whether playing at a full rine table is the same or should I use another strategy?

Should play tighter or more aggressive with position

What range of hands should I play from early positions?
 
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Both have pros and cons. The pros for 6 max are there are no early positions so you could play more hands. Also you have fewer opponents which means the odds somebody of them have a stronger hand are lower. The cons are the blinds get to you 1,5 times faster.

The pros for 9 game are the blinds don't come to you that often and you will catch bigger pots with a good hand in late position. But here come cons: You should fold more often cards such as JJ or TT since you will get a decent raise in early position which sounds that there are AA, KK or AK involved. There are more dealt cards which lowers the chance of hitting your card at the flop. The amount of fish and donks is bigger but in some cases this will tilt you when they suck out you with 72o vs your AA.

In my opinion you should play 6 max for a lower profit than playing full rine and end up with none profit and tilt which usually makes you do dumb decisions and risking all of your bankroll on one buy-in (personal experience)
 
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6/full will have a bit different strategies that mostly will be reliant on hands PRF as said before this means less hands played + more TAGy play
As for what is more proffitable I would say 6 max but thats for me. I play more hands this way
Basically 1-3 possitions in a full ring are dead
 
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The biggest difference between full ring and 6 max is that in full ring, the starting hands in early position must be stronger, because there are more chances that late position hands will be premium. I generally found that your opening range can be much wider on 6 max, because of the reduced number of hole cards. I found that full ring required more patience because I had to wait longer for playable hands or open my range and lose more money because of the stronger hands I was constantly up against.
 
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6max you build your experience quicker and fun for action junkies.

9fr is more for those who want to take things slow and relax and fall asleep lol
 
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6 max games are naturally faster as the button turns around the table faster. If you like a lot of action and want to be involved in plenty of pots and see a lot of hands, then 6-max should be your preferred format. If you have a lot of patience and like a slightly more conservative type of play, full ring will be ideal for you.

The advantages & advantages depend on your personality. In general 6-max is a more difficult game and it definitively involves more risk. Because such games are looser, marginal situations with dire consequences occur more frequently. You cannot be afraid of committing your entire stack with non-premium hands if you want to be successful at 6-max.

Full ring is a format where you can play profitably with a rock style of play, nut mining and focusing on implied odds. A so-called autopilot type of play can be efficient at full ring, i.e. playing ABC poker which involves tough decisions only infrequently. This is why some players think that full ring is boring. If you are looking for action & excitement, go for 6 max, not full ring.

In 6 max, moves such as steal & resteal are more frequent. You must play position but you also have to instill fear and respect by letting the other players know that you will not get bullied. The games get more personal as you will clash with specific players more frequently. You can establish patterns faster, target individuals and set them up. And it is easier to isolate the fish.

Full ring games offer the advantage of smaller profit swings than 6-max games. Less variance implies that it is mentally a less tough game. With slower orbit rotations, you will pay the blinds less often and will feel less desperate to make moves. You will need less pain tolerance to withstand the variance.

Strategic :-

Even though the only difference between the two formats is the variation in table size, they play very differently

Starting Hand Selection

Full ring allows a player to play tight by being conservative with their moves and holding out and only committing when a very strong hand comes their way. Since the blinds are paid more frequently and there are fewer players in shorthanded games, starting hand values go up significantly. In 6-max games you need to play more poker hands and play them more aggressively. Anything that is playable in mid-position in a full ring game is generally playable in any position in 6-max games. You’ll also find that you can be the first raiser much more often when in late position, simply because there are fewer players.

Aggression

Without a doubt, one of the most important difference between a full ring and a 6-max game is the level of aggression. If you’re making the switch from full ring to 6-max cash games then you already should know that you need to open up your range of starting hands. Aggressive play is always important , but even more in 6-max games because you must maximize your ability to play and try to win with marginal and lighter holdings.In the same way, 6-max games can sometimes tempt us to loosen up too much and play too many weak hands, which can lead to downfall.

Position

Playing a hand from early position In a full ring cash game is a much bigger disadvantage than in 6-max games, since there are more opponents who can enter the pot after you’ve acted. However this doesn’t mean your table position should be disregarded when playing 6-max. Opponents are more likely to miss the flop in shorthanded games which makes position very valuable post-flop when playing . If you’re out of position then you’re opponents will have more opportunities to be aggressive on us & steal pots

Increased Opportunities

If you’re fortunate enough to be seated with an weak opponents then you’ll be involved in many more pots with them. This means you can exploit these weak player far more than you ever could in a full ring game, simply because there would be less tough players.

Bluffing

Although there are increased opportunities in 6-max games and it is generally easier to bluff, you need to realize that your opponents know that aggressive play is common and you’ll get called more frequently. So bluffing attempt should be very less in these games

Higher Variance

You’ll experience more variance . This is simply because players will try to involve in more pots with weaker hands, and betting them more aggressively. Your style of play will absolutely gonna influence how much variance you will personally experience.
 
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Oops :p Looks like I gone Overboard and at the same time wrote post in neutral form explaining differences , my bad :eek:


I play at tables 6 max


It's where I feel most comfortable.

My question is whether playing at a full rine table is the same or should I use another strategy?

Should play tighter or more aggressive with position

What range of hands should I play from early positions?


As you said that you are comfortable & have quite an good amount of experience with 6-max version , then i must assume u would be in mindset of Loose aggressive

Well I think Its not gonna be easy & smooth transitioning for anyone to play 9-max after experiencing 6-max tables for a good amount of time because they are not same and would obviously require different strategy simply because in 9-max the players play more often tight because it takes more time for one orbit compared to 6-max and hence less pressure on them to play & win pots , can wait for better hand which means less variance to handle than in 6-max

so theres a change of strategy required for sure

Full ring is a format where you can play profitably with a rock style of play, nut mining and focusing on implied odds. A so-called autopilot type of play can be efficient at full ring, i.e. playing ABC poker which involves tough decisions only infrequently. This is why some players think that full ring is boring. If you are looking for action & excitement, you wont find much and another thing is they offer advantage of smaller profit swings compared to 6-max .

As its a less variance one with slow blind orbitations ,you will pay the blinds less often and will feel less desperate to make moves.You will need less pain tolerance to withstand the variance.

Strategy :-

Since 9-max allows for tighter play , we can wait & play strong hands and can commit chips with only made hand .

So it is important to avoid marginal holdings and play hands which makes best possible nut hand & be aggressive with those

The Hand selection for 9-max Early position should be top strong , we should open/flat only with AA , AK , AQs ,AJs, KK, QQ, JJ , TT
The pairs 22-99 should be played carefully depending on action and also if u are getting good price to enter and others are weak to open and would most likely put us in tough spots especially i advise you to fold QA , AJ offsuit and others A10s ,QK , QJ , KJ , JT , KT , QT etc from early

From Late we can Open wide if we are first to act or also can flat depending on action before u
 
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You have to play tighter from the three earlier positions, and vs. the three earlier positions. The beauty of full ring is that you get 3 additional seats to play profitably from. It's impossible to be a winning player from the blinds over a long sample so having more seats without blinds is great for rec players who really struggle with lossrates from the blinds of -40-60bb/100
 
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My UTG RFI range in full ring:

+87s, QTs+, AQo+,KQo+,+AJs,55+

TBH, KQo, 55-66, and 87s are pretty marginal and should only be raised a % of the time.

I dont play:
22-44, AJo, ATo, KJo,KTo,QTo,QJo,K9s,ATs
from UTG in full ring.
 
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6 max my prefer. More active gamess and less information because less opponents
 
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I like the 9 seaters.. more money in the pot when I get a hand.. I have never really been a big fan of position poker.. you either have a hand or you don't.. I don't like to play at a .50 table where every flop is costing x3 to see.. Good when you are getting hands but bad when the blinds and rake are eating up the chips
 
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I like 6max tables more, but playing full ring more time
 
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6handed play is tougher, more exciting, more skill building than 9 handed. 9 handed play is requires a few skills, but the biggest is patience and more patience. However, you will have to lay down big hands more often in full ring as opposed to 6h because most of the time you are getting lots of action 6h.
So another skill you will need in full ring is you will have to be able to get away from your big hands because more people at the table usually more people seeing the flop... so be prepared to lay down your big hands... And conversely you will probably get paid off more often with your sets and str8s at full ring. Play both, see which one you enjoy most / which one is more profitable to you.

good luck
 
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I like 6-max, it is more predictable tables, more dynamic game.

Luck on tables.
 
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Oops :p Looks like I gone Overboard and at the same time wrote post in neutral form explaining differences , my bad :eek:





As you said that you are comfortable & have quite an good amount of experience with 6-max version , then i must assume u would be in mindset of Loose aggressive

Well I think Its not gonna be easy & smooth transitioning for anyone to play 9-max after experiencing 6-max tables for a good amount of time because they are not same and would obviously require different strategy simply because in 9-max the players play more often tight because it takes more time for one orbit compared to 6-max and hence less pressure on them to play & win pots , can wait for better hand which means less variance to handle than in 6-max

so theres a change of strategy required for sure

Full ring is a format where you can play profitably with a rock style of play, nut mining and focusing on implied odds. A so-called autopilot type of play can be efficient at full ring, i.e. playing ABC poker which involves tough decisions only infrequently. This is why some players think that full ring is boring. If you are looking for action & excitement, you wont find much and another thing is they offer advantage of smaller profit swings compared to 6-max .

As its a less variance one with slow blind orbitations ,you will pay the blinds less often and will feel less desperate to make moves.You will need less pain tolerance to withstand the variance.

Strategy :-

Since 9-max allows for tighter play , we can wait & play strong hands and can commit chips with only made hand .

So it is important to avoid marginal holdings and play hands which makes best possible nut hand & be aggressive with those

The Hand selection for 9-max Early position should be top strong , we should open/flat only with AA , AK , AQs ,AJs, KK, QQ, JJ , TT
The pairs 22-99 should be played carefully depending on action and also if u are getting good price to enter and others are weak to open and would most likely put us in tough spots especially i advise you to fold QA , AJ offsuit and others A10s ,QK , QJ , KJ , JT , KT , QT etc from early

From Late we can Open wide if we are first to act or also can flat depending on action before u

Thank you for your post,after this kind of information I was looking, it's very clear for me now and what i shall do in the future
 
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its depends what speed you play hyper turbo,turbo or reguler..
 
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The best solution is to play all the pairs from 2 to aces + suited connectors, the only pictures on full house, or straight ;)
 
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for me is good to play 6max and all the table with de 9 players , the only diferences is that 6max is a game faster than the other , but if you play well you will win playing both
 
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