6 max is so hard for me.

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I am down in money at 6 max quite a bit. I just get so confused sometimes with the more loose play. I have quit 6 max altogether for the most part and just wait for full ring tables.

Hold em manger says I am VPIP 24 and PFR 13. It always calls me a TAG and a ABC player. Is there anyway I can adjust?

I play pretty straight forward I guess. I think I need to open up and play more hands but that confuses me as well.

I appreciate any advise. Maybe I should just stick to full ring for now sense that is about the only profitable thing I have down in online poker, other than Sit and Goes (SNGs)
 
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The gap between your VPIP and PFR is too big, call and limp less preflop and fold or 3bet more.

I wouldn't say you need to open up more, depends what stakes you play but you can crush the micros playing something like like 20/18.
 
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Yea I would study the stats of the top 6-max players and seem if you can try to get similar stats. In general more aggressive play will work better, you seem to be playing too passively. Instead of limping or calling so much raise or 3-bet.
 
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What levels are you playing?

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The limit isn't really that important here. 24/13 is far from ideal at any stake. Even the lowest.

My advice would be to move down to the lowest limit available and practice starting hand ranges, stick to them until it becomes comfortable. Then consider widening your ranges slightly.

Other than your obvious leak with ranges, both opening ranges and calling ranges. Simply valuebet a lot and bluff infrequently.
 
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ricksterrick said:
Yea I would study the stats of the top 6-max players and seem if you can try to get similar stats. In general more aggressive play will work better, you seem to be playing too passively. Instead of limping or calling so much raise or 3-bet.
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I didn't mention it but I am playing the lowest level possible which at Carbon Poker is $4 max.

I admit I did limp a lot to start with and like people said my stats show it so I cant hide it. I need to raise or fold more.

I guess I need to study 3-betting because I feel like I don't know when I can do it.
 
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If you're playing 1,2 your best bet is to play ABC poker. Which means waiting fo the big one and pouncing on the callers.

Card selection is key at lower levels, as advanced moves (bluffs. hijacks, blocking bets, etc) rarely even get noticed at that level.

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I hate 6-max also, except in freerolls :)

Full ring is better, but I wish the old days were back, when there were 10 player tables. Those games were so easy to beat :)
 
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Akorps said:
I hate 6-max also, except in freerolls :)

Full ring is better, but I wish the old days were back, when there were 10 player tables. Those games were so easy to beat :)
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Wow!!! Really?! I always found them extremely difficult inasmuch as you always got 2 or 3 callers, so without the absolute nuts one never knew where they stood; making value betting the river a huge gamble.
 
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JusSumguy said:
If you're playing 1,2 your best bet is to play ABC poker. Which means waiting fo the big one and pouncing on the callers.

Card selection is key at lower levels, as advanced moves (bluffs. hijacks, blocking bets, etc) rarely even get noticed at that level.

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I know this is a day old but thanks for the advise. I think my problem is I was trying to over adjust and and that was making things worse.
 
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Fuffufnick said:
Wow!!! Really?! I always found them extremely difficult inasmuch as you always got 2 or 3 callers, so without the absolute nuts one never knew where they stood; making value betting the river a huge gamble.
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I agree. But when you do have the nuts and you know it you can maximize the bets.
 
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Bowman26 said:
I agree. But when you do have the nuts and you know it you can maximize the bets.
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I have a hand chart pinned to the side of my monitor, just in case I'm not sure.
 
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I think there is more value in Full Ring, I suck at 6 Max, maybe my style is more suited to Full Ring, or maybe I am just too aggressive for these passive fish at Full Ring
 
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You have to be able to take the swings for either game.
 
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deffinately gotta loosen up and play the man more,instead of position and cards
 
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I think full ring can give better rakeback also, than 6 max, if I have it figured right. I think the sites make more off rake (when subtracting rakeback from their profit) at 6 max than they do at full ring. I think that's why they switched from 10 max full ring to 9 max full ring, and why 6 max tables are promoted so much. Under the old system, if everyone at the table had max rakeback, the sites were hardly making anything at all from the rake, maybe even losing money when rakeback was sometimes actually higher than the total rake collected.

Also it depends on your style. LAGs probably prefer 6 max.
 
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Switched from FR to 6-max, and I'm crushing it for the last 8 hours, HUD even more profitable there (my opinion)
My stats 26/23 3bet 6%
 
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IMO half of the advices here are garbage and are confusing the micro player. Adopting a TAG line it is a necessity to beat the stakes not. You get to stats like 22/19 by playing good poker. You are not necessary a good poker player if you have 22/19 at 6-max. You can be a bad TAG that plays bad postflop.
Your stats can give you a general idea of what you are doing bad. Like limping too much or playing too many hands. But the stats are not teaching you how to play poker how to identify defferent types of players and how to play against them. I think there is where you should start. Learn the general starting hands chart and then learn how to play against different types of players. If you play linear against all of them you will be breakeven most likely. You take some money from the fish , loose some to the regs and so on.
 
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No, I think sixmax is difficult for the vast majority.
I particularly find it very difficult sixmax hyper turbo, is a big challenge.
 
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swingro said:
IMO half of the advices here are garbage and are confusing the micro player. Adopting a TAG line it is a necessity to beat the stakes not. You get to stats like 22/19 by playing good poker. You are not necessary a good poker player if you have 22/19 at 6-max. You can be a bad TAG that plays bad postflop.
Your stats can give you a general idea of what you are doing bad. Like limping too much or playing too many hands. But the stats are not teaching you how to play poker how to identify defferent types of players and how to play against them. I think there is where you should start. Learn the general starting hands chart and then learn how to play against different types of players. If you play linear against all of them you will be breakeven most likely. You take some money from the fish , loose some to the regs and so on.
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Exactly this, but you will learn good poker by trial and error, and if he limps or calls to much, that is an error and we can help him with that by checking his stats and advice him according to those stats.
 
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