6 handed v full ring thoughts fpp wise

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played poker 4 bit now and after being member of cardrunners alot of vids are 6 handed so changed from full ring,and am shocked at how much quicker fpp goin up.and is so much more enjoyable so any1 bit bored of poker i recommend mix it up abit
 
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Yep your playing a lot more hands/hour with 6max. FWIW, I think for both 6max/fr I worked it out to be around 225fpp/1k hands.
 
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You basically get an FPP for every $8+ pot you win. So if you play in more $8 pots per 100 hands at 6-max you're FPP/100 hand rate will go up.

However, you should be able to play significantly more full ring tables at once. So a lower rate over more tables might actually get you more FPP's per hour.
 
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Should also have pointed out my 225Vpp's/1k hands was at 50nl (and yes I was getting my F's and V's mixed up). Interesting point, at 100nl 6max I'm earning considerably more Vpps at 100nl 6max as opposed to 100nl FR. Now I'm not surprised by that ,I kinda expected it, but it didn't seem to be that much difference when I was playing 50nl. I know I'm playing a lot looser style now at 100nl 6max, so obv this will help.
 
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... totally off the topic, but FPPs are the last thing in the world you should give a flying s**t about, you'll earn them every x number of hands and they bring in a value of 1.5 cents each. i'd be more concerned with which table will bring you more money, not chasing an extra .1 cents / turn differentials between 9/6 handed play. just my thoughts.
 
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... totally off the topic, but FPPs are the last thing in the world you should give a flying s**t about, you'll earn them every x number of hands and they bring in a value of 1.5 cents each. i'd be more concerned with which table will bring you more money, not chasing an extra .1 cents / turn differentials between 9/6 handed play. just my thoughts.
FPPs bring in a significant amount of money for high-volume players. It's the equivalent to rakeback; ignoring it and considering it peanuts would just be silly.
 
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6 handed vs. full ring again

I'm interested to know which some of you prefer to play and why. I myself prefer to play 6 handed because I get extremely irritated with the really slow players ( you know, the ones that think they're on TV) who ALWAYS seem to show up at my tables in droves. The game takes long enough as it is! Also it"s easier to pick up on the players nuances and habits. It doesn't seem like there is ever any more money in the pot at the full rings either. And one last point; Do the odds and percentage variances change in your favor more at 6 player or full ring?
 
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Sorry about that last post to this thread/ Have started a thread in the proper place.
 
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You basically get an FPP for every $8+ pot you win.

Is this true?? Since i was led to believe that you get an FPP for every $8+ pot that takes place on the table, whether you are involved in the hand or not. But i honestly don't really know
 
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It depends,

if you are a more skilled player with a lot of patience - I would say fullring is better

If you like a lot of action - and if you can read the patterns ot other players quickly than 6 -

or to have a lot of action : Headsup
 
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FPPs bring in a significant amount of money for high-volume players. It's the equivalent to rakeback; ignoring it and considering it peanuts would just be silly.

I agree they make A difference - but i highly doubt by table switching one would make up even 1% the summed difference off of FPP differentials as one would off of playing style / comfort.

One type of table sees more hands, the other has larger pots.. ultimate difference between that and what I've said (imo) = null.

side note ,to whoever asked
And any $8 pot will get you a FPP, you don't need to win the $8 pot, you just need to be in the game (not waiting for big blinds for example).
 
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I agree they make A difference - but i highly doubt by table switching one would make up even 1% the summed difference off of FPP differentials as one would off of playing style / comfort.

One type of table sees more hands, the other has larger pots.. ultimate difference between that and what I've said (imo) = null.

side note ,to whoever asked
And any $8 pot will get you a FPP, you don't need to win the $8 pot, you just need to be in the game (not waiting for big blinds for example).

at micro(25nl where its possible to hit platnium in 50k hands) I play pretty much the same at both and my winrate isnt effected, but i earn more vpps. 2p2 has a great thread about vpps and such.
 
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From pokerstars:

1. Earn FPP credits for cash game play

First Frequent Player Point (FPP) is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches:
  • $0.40 for fixed limit poker games with stakes $1/$2 and lower
  • $0.40 for NL/PL poker games with blinds $1/$2 and lower
  • $0.40 for "1-on-1" poker games (this applies only to "1-on-1" tables, not to regular tables which have only two players seated)
  • $1.00 for all other games
Second FPP is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches:
  • $2.00 for all 6-max tables (this doesn't apply for games being played 6- handed at 10/9/8 player tables - just 6-max tables)
  • $3.00 for all other tables
Third FPP is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches $5.00.
2. Earn FPP credits for tournament play

Five (5) FPP credits are awarded for each $1 in tournament fees paid.
For example, playing in a poker tournament with $20 buy-in and $2 tournament fee, each player will be awarded 10 FPP credits. *Note that partial Frequent Player Points are always rounded to the nearest whole number.
In a $5 buy-in Sit & Go poker tournament with only a $0.50 fee, 3 FPP credits (instead of 2.5) will be awarded to each player who played poker in the tournament.
In a $5 buy-in 4-player Heads-Up Sit & Go poker tournament with only a $0.25 fee, 1 FPP (instead of 1.25) will be awarded to each player who played poker in the tournament.
Please note that "FreePlay" tournaments do not award FPP credits. You can play poker for fake money at our free tables, but these poker games and tournaments are not part of the PokerStars FPP program.
 
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In Limit games, you don't really start earning FPPs until you hit $1/2, so I hadn't paid much attention to them initially, playing at $0.5/1 mostly, and only occasionally getting points.
Looking at the multipliers for higher statuses and the better bonuses for higher statuses, it shows a big difference in the value of a VPP:
$50 for 5K FPPs = 1 cent per VPP earned (Bronze level starter bonus, no multiplier)

$10K for $50K FPPs (1 million FPP supernova bonus) @ 5 FPPs per VPP (Supernova Elite status) = $1 per VPP earned

All bonuses are not equal
 
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pokerstars rewards high volume players more as they generate more rake, thats why all bonus' are not equal.
 
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I think it depends on the limit. Realize that it's 1 FPP -> .40 rake, 2 FPP -> 1.00 rake.
The 6 handed tables may get more hands per hour, but if the pots are too small, then you may never get 1 FPP (or 2).
I think it specifically depends on the limits too.
An interesting experiment:
6 handed .50/1.00 table
9 handed .25/50 table.
 
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Is this true?? Since i was led to believe that you get an FPP for every $8+ pot that takes place on the table, whether you are involved in the hand or not. But i honestly don't really know

I know, when looking for rackback deals, different sites calculated their points differently.

I'm pretty sure that you have to play the hand (VP$IP) on PokerStars. (I mistakingly said "win") I think on some other sites you just have to be involved in the hand, so folding counts. But in the latter, I think each player gets a fraction of points, as they are all divided evenly among the players. That's a good deal if you're a rock, and bad if you're loose.
 
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