5nl rush help?

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i moved up from 2nl to play 4 9max .02/.05 rush tables and am consistently losing over the past 40,000 hands. here are my pt3 stats:
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i would really appreciate some good microstakes rush poker tips, or if anyone would like to do a sweat session or session analysis i have teamviewer, mikogo, aim, skype, etc. thanks guys
 
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Have you tried playing normal 5NL?

Looking at your stats you are playing super super tight, you only raising AA,KK,QQ? Although I would recommend playing tight at RUSH this is too tight. Try opening your range up, especially from the cutoff and button as a raise from these positions will get the blinds a lot.

Also your 3 bet stat is almost non existent. Try reading Rileyls guide, this has a good section about 3 betting in it. You can find that here - https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-games-11/transitioning-micro-stakes-guide-172020/

A screenshot of you stats by position would also help a ton in finding out how you are playing.
 
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rush poker is bad in my mind theres a lot of coolers because everyone waits for the nuts:boxing:
 
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I've seen a lot more coolers in rush poker. I think it's just because you see way more hands than normal tables. So it's like having all the coolers you would see in 10 normal sessions dumped in 1 rush poker session. Definitely not for someone that is prone to tilting.

I have only played very little hands at 5NL fullring rush, but I've played a decent amount in 10NL. I noticed that almost everyone is playing very tight and waiting for good hands and it's hard to get into hands with the fish.
 
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Stats only tell so much. Post flop play is important as is good hand reading. Don't throw out the fact that in the player pool you will get to know certain players.

You are giving up a little too easily IMO, and I would be attempting a few more steals. You need to be 3 betting the hands you are playing (so few, but then I am as loose as a... hrm), and open a slightly wider range, especially in position.

Try playing only 1 or 2 tables and see if you can beat it then.
 
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Don't give your stack when you have only 1 pair even if it's pocket Aces...

You need to make big hands to win the big pots and if you are playing too tight and folding 68o on the button - you will never make the nut straight or steal from position when check to you... If you add few more hands in position and steal - you could be break even. If you can fold AA when people raised you big on the flop - you could be profitable...
 
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Don't give your stack when you have only 1 pair even if it's pocket Aces...

You need to make big hands to win the big pots and if you are playing too tight and folding 68o on the button - you will never make the nut straight or steal from position when check to you... If you add few more hands in position and steal - you could be break even. If you can fold AA when people raised you big on the flop - you could be profitable...

I think that only applies when playing villains who know what they are doing. Against fish, top pair top kicker is the nuts. I wouldn't be folding top pair or overpair to a single raise in 5NL unless I have a good read on the villain.
 
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I think that only applies when playing villains who know what they are doing. Against fish, top pair top kicker is the nuts. I wouldn't be folding top pair or overpair to a single raise in 5NL unless I have a good read on the villain.

Hmm no. Pafkata's advice is dead on for RUSH 5nl. Your above advice is more applicable at normal tables. TPTK loses some value at this game. It's very easy to go broke with a pair in RUSH poker.
 
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Your losing because you are easy money to people like me :), who have played like 20k odd rush hands and have stats on you, i love isolating fish at the regular tables b/c its free money and if you limped in front of me when i was in LP i'd be raising with any two and cbetting any flop.

i'm guessing you limp-call a lot of pp's in early and middle position right? And then i guess that if you don't hit a set you fold to a cbet, and if you do then you either c/r really dry boards or check-call the flop then c/r a blank turn, both really obvious set lines at the micros.

Playing against a 7/2 player is stupidly easy, you are raising only your premium hands, and whats more is that you probably won't fold them ever if say the board comes low and you have an over pair, if i set mine in LP and hit my set i'm taking your stack without a doubt. Any hand that you limp with is going to be for set-mining purposes or just trying to see a cheap flop with sc's, suited aces etc, so if you limp then i'm raising anything in LP to get it heads up and then i'm betting pretty much any flop that comes down because your going to check-fold loads when your pp's/sc's miss the flop.

My advice, 1) Open up....loads and loads and loads, i play 18/16 at the same level! Don't autofold any button, CO or small blind b/c they are all great stealing opportunities at rush poker and you can pretty much get away with opening any two, i don't go quite that far but i'd say that if you put up your button/CO stats i'd be playing about 3 times as many hands from there than you

2) Stop limping and playing fit or fold poker, its a bad way to play because thinking players will just not pay you off enough when you hit to make your pf limp-calls profitable in the long run

3) Your folding 90%+ to steals from the blinds, this kinda ties in with what i said about opening up from LP earlier, guess what....i play a wide range from LP because the rush player pool is FULL of people like you, start off by just never autofolding you SB, if its folded to you then raise 3x with any two and just see how many folds you get, when its folded round and the SB completes, raise the BB with any two cards and see how many folds you get, its free money most of the time and you aren't even attempting to take it enough, attempt to steal of 12% is really low, you wanna be hitting like 30% at least

Kinda went off on one there but w/e 5nl FR rush is amazingly easy imo, i play tight but i still raise wider everywhere than i do in a normal game, raising 89s utg and watching the whole table autofold just brings a smile to your face every time lol
 
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I think it is best if you tried playing more hands instead of waiting for just premium hands, in which you have a good chance of getting in with the best but still getting drawn out on
 
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don't feel bad buddy... I have over 9k in hands and I'm down 122$, and I steal almost 30% of the time. But when I tilt... oh boy... that's why I banned myself from rush poker until further notice -_-;

good read orange peelo
 
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Try 5nl on a standard speed table and see how your results change
 
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