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Been grinding out some 5NL and am doing alright but was wanting some opinions on trouble hands and cba to make 20 analysis threads so figured I would just make a cash game thread! I would like to say I am a winning player at 5NL but only have a 15k sample size on PT4 so who knows. I have a bunch of saved hands I want to post but I am just going to post about 3-4 per day and see how that goes.

I feel like posting these hands without villain stats is going to complicate things but lets just look at it as general concepts of what I should do differently in these spots. I will include villain reads in upcoming hands but some of the hands I am going to post are up to 2 weeks old and I don't exactly remember villain images.


PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 47 BB
MP: 60.8 BB
Hero (MP+1): 164.4 BB
CO: 92.6 BB
BTN: 256.4 BB
SB: 126.2 BB
BB: 34.4 BB
UTG: 23 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 7♠ 9♠

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.6 BB, fold

I am pretty sure I opened with this hand because the Cutoff and Button were tight players and figured I would get folds from them.

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) J♥ 9♦ 9♣
SB checks, Hero bets 5 BB, SB calls 5 BB

Turn: (17 BB, 2 players) T♦
SB checks, Hero bets 13 BB, SB calls 13 BB

River: (43 BB, 2 players) 2♦
SB checks, Hero bets 43 BB, SB raises to 105.2 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 62.2 BB,

Am I basically bluff catching on this river? I really had villain on Jx and was sure he would pay off the pot bet.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): 118.2 BB
MP+1: 95.6 BB
CO: 97.2 BB
BTN: 99.6 BB
SB: 116 BB
BB: 78.2 BB
UTG: 120.4 BB
UTG+1: 62.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 3♣ 3♥

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 3 BB, fold

Flop: (9.4 BB, 2 players) 3♠ 4♦ 7♥
BB bets 9.4 BB, Hero calls 9.4 BB

It was awkward to be donked into by a pot sized bet on the flop and I was unsure of what to do so I just flatted, I feel like a raise would not of been horrible?

Turn: (28.2 BB, 2 players) A♠
BB bets 5 BB, Hero raises to 37.2 BB, fold,

I then choose to raise pot right here which was a poor move, I was hoping he had an A but now that I reviewed this hand big A's were all over my range and not his. I now put villain on a range of 66-1010 and should of flatted this bet and tried to get more money in on the river?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 98.6 BB
SB: 96 BB
BB: 44.2 BB
UTG: 52.4 BB
UTG+1: 222 BB
MP: 87.8 BB
MP+1: 31.6 BB
CO: 26.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♠ A♥

fold, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB calls 3.6 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB

Flop: (13 BB, 3 players) 3♥ 2♣ 7♦
SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets 10 BB, SB calls 10 BB, fold

Turn: (33 BB, 2 players) 4♠
SB checks, Hero checks

Should I of bet here? I really did not like this card because it completed flopped straight draws such as 65, A5.

River: (33 BB, 2 players) 5♦
SB checks, Hero bets 20 BB, fold,

When villain checks to me again I discount all straights from his range and bet the river. What do you think he floated with on the flop and do you think I was ever getting called on this river even if I bet 1/3rd pot?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 63.8 BB
UTG+1: 59 BB
MP: 47.4 BB
MP+1: 103.2 BB
CO: 105.6 BB
BTN: 96.8 BB
Hero (SB): 137.6 BB
BB: 65.8 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♥ Q♥

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, BTN calls 6 BB

I like the raise pre

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) 2♥ 4♠ K♥
Hero bets 13 BB, BTN calls 13 BB

I like the smaller CB giving myself odds to draw to nut flush

Turn: (45 BB, 2 players) 6♣
Hero bets 33 BB, fold,

I am unsure of bet sizing on the turn right here, I really wanted villain to fold and thought it was going to take a good size bet, think I could of went smaller?
 
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OK, just one more hand to get this started!

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 100 BB
MP+1: 93.2 BB
CO: 102.8 BB
BTN: 27.6 BB
SB: 181.4 BB
BB: 98 BB
UTG: 34.4 BB
Hero (UTG+1): 301.8 BB
UTG+2: 114.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9♥ 9♦

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 2.6 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9 BB, 3 players) J♠ 9♣ 2♠
SB checks, BB bets 3 BB, Hero raises to 7 BB, SB calls 7 BB, BB calls 4 BB

What I feel like is my only mistake in this is raising this flop to small, I should have raised 9-10BBs. I looked at the donk bet as being weak so I raised it but didn't really want a fold from the BB. Then I get two callers which I don't really like on this wet flop.

Turn: (30 BB, 3 players) 5♣
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 26 BB, SB calls 26 BB, BB raises to 88 BB and is all-in, Hero raises to 291.8 BB and is all-in, SB calls 145.4 BB and is all-in

Standard spot to GII on this blank?

River: (460.8 BB, 3 players) T♥
 
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79- I think we might actually have been rivered here. Suited connectors from the SB is common. A bad player will do this with AJ or J10 though, tough one and understandable to call him off.

33- betting is all over the place, hard to know whats going on here without info on villain. Call the turn and let them splash again, then jam the river.

AA- bet the turn. All medium pairs are calling. You say you were worried about 65 and A5. Would 65 call that flop bet with a gutshot? A5 is unlikely as we hold two Aces.

AQ- good

99- make it 10BB on the flop as you said. Were happy GII on the turn.

Nice job on starting the thread, everyone learns from these. Solid play so far id say!
 
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79- I think we might actually have been rivered here. Suited connectors from the SB is common. A bad player will do this with AJ or J10 though, tough one and understandable to call him off.

33- betting is all over the place, hard to know whats going on here without info on villain. Call the turn and let them splash again, then jam the river.

AA- bet the turn. All medium pairs are calling. You say you were worried about 65 and A5. Would 65 call that flop bet with a gutshot? A5 is unlikely as we hold two Aces.

AQ- good

99- make it 10BB on the flop as you said. Were happy GII on the turn.

Nice job on starting the thread, everyone learns from these. Solid play so far id say!

33- I like the line you suggest, when I reviewed that hand I facepalmed hard thinking what was I doing!

AA-I didn't even think about how unlikely A5 was since I had AA haha, blockers is something I need to start thinking about while at the table.

Not sure if I should start posting more hands or what for some other subscribers/feedback first.
 
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I'll just post one today since no one is really looking at this, haha.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 84.6 BB
CO: 65.2 BB
BTN: 28 BB
SB: 137.2 BB
Hero (BB): 90.6 BB
UTG: 43.6 BB
UTG+1: 28.6 BB
MP: 59 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 4♦ 6♦

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 0.6 BB, Hero checks

Flop: (3 BB, 3 players) K♦9♦ 2♦
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks

I really didn't want to play this hand to begin with but since I got in with a check and flopped a 6 high flush what should I do? I intended on a x/r but villain checked behind. Since there was not a pre flop raiser should I lead here? How much do I lead into a 3 BB pot? I doubt anyone is folding Adx or Kdx to anything less than an overbet.

Turn: (3 BB, 3 players) T♦
SB bets 3 BB, fold, fold,

Just didn't like this spot at all so I just folded. Any diamond is basically beating me beisdes a 3 and 5 lol. Weak fold?
 
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I seem to lose a lot when playing trash hands from the BB when I check in, hands which I would always fold pre. Its easy to get into bad spots (your hand is a perfect example) so ive made a rule for myself to commit very little into these pots.

Your play is fine, especially since its a 3 way pot. Fish will be calling with Ad Qd maybe even Jd, if you bet the flop, because the pot is so small.

Turn is an easy fold for us.
 
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79s - just fold pre - as played flop and turn fine - river i'd check it back. just about every draw going has got there KQ , Q8 78 and diamonds. betting is unlikely to get called by anything we beat and is going to get called by hands that beat us or raise us. Why is Jx going to pay off when all those draws completed. that board just got scary to him.

33 - i'd raise flop to 25bb and commit him to the hand if he calls as he'll have less than a pot sized bet left behind so that we can bet half pot half pot and get him all in .

AA - i'd bet the turn and check behind the river . he's giving us a free showdown and unlikely to call with worse and may raise with 6x

AQ - i'd bet 1/2 pot on turn and keep pot smaller

99 - flop raise is way too small ...we're 180 bb deep with SB and i want to get it all in and the bigger we size flop raise compounding does the job for getting the money in.I'd make it 24bb , if you are called pot is almost 60bb
then you can go 45bb on turn giving 150bb pot and 112bb effective behind to shove on the river anyone else coming along just makes the pot more rtempting for them
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In and GL!!

Thread name say bovada but hands say Pokerstars, is this a converter issue?
 
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79s - just fold pre - as played flop and turn fine - river i'd check it back. just about every draw going has got there KQ , Q8 78 and diamonds. betting is unlikely to get called by anything we beat and is going to get called by hands that beat us or raise us. Why is Jx going to pay off when all those draws completed. that board just got scary to him.

33 - i'd raise flop to 25bb and commit him to the hand if he calls as he'll have less than a pot sized bet left behind so that we can bet half pot half pot and get him all in .

AA - i'd bet the turn and check behind the river . he's giving us a free showdown and unlikely to call with worse and may raise with 6x

AQ - i'd bet 1/2 pot on turn and keep pot smaller

99 - flop raise is way too small ...we're 180 bb deep with SB and i want to get it all in and the bigger we size flop raise compounding does the job for getting the money in.I'd make it 24bb , if you are called pot is almost 60bb
then you can go 45bb on turn giving 150bb pot and 112bb effective behind to shove on the river anyone else coming along just makes the pot more rtempting for them
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79- Agree that there really is no value in betting the river, only J calling is probably AJ, if that.

33- I like the line you suggest, I just usually look at donk bets as weak and that board was so dry I was thoroughly confused.

AA- For sure agree, especially since I have position if he donks out river huge it would probably be an easy fold anyway.

AQ- Since I am bluffing do you think half pot would get the job done? So hard to tell without reads I suppose. If he calls and river is a blank do you fire a 3rd barrel?

99- Do you think raising twice pot is good in this situation? I suppose 3 way to the flop on this wet of a board would be good since we want combo draws to pay/fold.

In and GL!!

Thread name say bovada but hands say Pokerstars, is this a converter issue?

I play on Bovada and use the Ace Poker Solutions converter for PT4 and it just makes it into pokerstars format. Also, thanks for coming in!
 
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Some more hands for ya.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 44.2 BB
BB: 86.4 BB
UTG: 30 BB
UTG+1: 247.8 BB
MP: 79 BB
Hero (MP+1): 97.8 BB
CO: 92.2 BB
BTN: 58.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, UTG posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has 3♦ 3♠

UTG checks, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, fold, Hero calls 1 BB, CO calls 1 BB, BTN calls 1 BB, SB calls 0.6 BB, BB checks

Flop: (7 BB, 7 players) J♥ 3♣2♥
SB bets 7 BB, BB calls 7 BB, fold, UTG+1 calls 7 BB, Hero raises to 31 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 24 BB, UTG+1 raises to 138 BB, Hero calls 65.8 BB and is all-in, BB calls 54.4 BB and is all-in

Turn: (293 BB, 3 players) Q♠

River: (293 BB, 3 players) 6♠

Should I ever be folding this flop? I do think I should of sized my raise to about 40BB's.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 165.2 BB
UTG+2: 51.4 BB
Hero (MP): 102 BB
MP+1: 90.2 BB
CO: 228.4 BB
BTN: 98.6 BB
SB: 49.8 BB
BB: 27 BB
UTG: 120 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♦ A♣

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3.4 BB, MP+1 calls 3.4 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (8.2 BB, 2 players) 2♠2♣ 7♣
Hero bets 6 BB, MP+1 calls 6 BB

Turn: (20.2 BB, 2 players) T♥
Hero bets 16 BB, MP+1 calls 16 BB

River: (52.2 BB, 2 players) 2♥
Hero bets 27 BB, MP+1 raises to 64.8 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 37.8 BB,

This river raise should be looked at as super strong since I just fired 3 barrels into him and this is probably never a bluff. I would think maybe busted flush draw but that is unlikely on a paired board?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 105 BB
CO: 97 BB
BTN: 6.4 BB
SB: 114.2 BB
Hero (BB): 98.6 BB
UTG: 91.4 BB
UTG+1: 172.4 BB
UTG+2: 25 BB
MP: 127.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T♦ J♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.6 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (15 BB, 5 players) A♥9♦ A♦
SB checks, Hero checks, MP+1 bets 7 BB, CO calls 7 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 27 BB, MP+1 raises to 69 BB, fold, Hero raises to 95.6 BB and is all-in, MP+1 calls 26.6 BB

Turn: (213.2 BB, 2 players) 7♥

River: (213.2 BB, 2 players) 5♥

I personally like my flop squeeze with the flush draw and attacking what I perceived as weakness from the villain but my question is once I get raised should it be a snap fold? I do have outs but I could be drawing dead against a full house. I feel like I for sure spewed on the flop.


PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 78.6 BB
SB: 113.4 BB
BB: 51.8 BB
UTG: 41.6 BB
UTG+1: 66.8 BB
UTG+2: 49.2 BB
MP: 84 BB
MP+1: 58.2 BB
Hero (CO): 135 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J♥ A♥

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, UTG+2 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, SB calls 4.6 BB, BB calls 4 BB, fold, UTG+2 calls 4 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 4 players) 2♦ 2♠ A♠
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks

Turn: (21 BB, 4 players) T♠
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+2 bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB, SB raises to 37 BB, fold, fold, fold,

Is there a point to betting this flop? It felt like a way ahead or way behind spot and with all the callers after me I felt like I could be dominated or someone could have a 2. and no, I do not think AQ or AK would of 3 bet pre in this spot possible but unlikely and yes I do think someone would flat preflop with a 2 in there hand, this is 5NL. I am only getting value off Arag which is pretty thin in this spot? Suited aces I suppose? Idk, I guess it is kind of a toss up.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 89.6 BB
UTG+2: 108.6 BB
MP: 14.4 BB
MP+1: 86 BB
CO: 28.8 BB
Hero (BTN): 121.4 BB
SB: 36.6 BB
BB: 96.2 BB
UTG: 90.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9♦ T♦

fold, fold, UTG+2 raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 8.6 BB, BB calls 8 BB, UTG+2 calls 6 BB

Flop: (36 BB, 4 players) 6♠9♠ T♠
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets 30 BB, fold, fold, UTG+2 calls 30 BB

Turn: (96 BB, 2 players) K♣
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets 69.8 BB, UTG+2 calls 69.6 BB and is all-in

River: (235.2 BB, 2 players) 6♣

Thoughts on this hand as a whole? I 3 bet pre on the button because this would normally get plenty of respect and if they did call I have a hand that can flop decent+position. I don't play hands like this often and mostly stick to premiums but I like to add/try new stuff in my game and don't think I was too off in this spot. I really wonder what the SB and BB called pre and folded flop with :confused: I think villain folds pre alot if it was not for them calling.
 
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33- I would play the same

AA- ditto. Id guess JJ for villain? Definitely some slow playing going on there.

J10- Why in the world are we squeezing on a paired board, holding only a J-high FD in a 5-way pot? Someone has an ace. We know micros players are basically inseparable from TPTK, let alone trips. Shoving over the top of the 4-bet is pretty bad mate. Accept your mistake and discipline fold to the 4-bet.

AJ- Tough spot. Personally id probably bet the flop, people play ace rag all the time, and id see how many callers I got. If two or more called and a spade hits the turn then x/f.

Other lines are definitely possibilities though, id look forward to hearing what others would do.

T9- This is pretty mad. Id always just flat in position. Tbh I think its played well though, albeit extremely aggressively. Id put UTG+2 on either Jacks or Queens because of pre flop action, maybe ATs with As. KQs is possible, if it is its pretty unlucky. Cry for a bit and move on.
 
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33- I would play the same

AA- ditto. Id guess JJ for villain? Definitely some slow playing going on there.

J10- Why in the world are we squeezing on a paired board, holding only a J-high FD in a 5-way pot? Someone has an ace. We know micros players are basically inseparable from TPTK, let alone trips. Shoving over the top of the 4-bet is pretty bad mate. Accept your mistake and discipline fold to the 4-bet.

AJ- Tough spot. Personally id probably bet the flop, people play ace rag all the time, and id see how many callers I got. If two or more called and a spade hits the turn then x/f.

Other lines are definitely possibilities though, id look forward to hearing what others would do.

T9- This is pretty mad. Id always just flat in position. Tbh I think its played well though, albeit extremely aggressively. Id put UTG+2 on either Jacks or Queens because of pre flop action, maybe ATs with As. KQs is possible, if it is its pretty unlucky. Cry for a bit and move on.

IDK... haha, just seemed really weak and like it would work. 2 aces on the flop means it is less likely a villain held one and figured I could rep a big A. Still bad though, I think I like the play more if the flop held 2 q's. With the reason why behind us now what do you think I should do when I was raised? I have to call 42BB into a 125BB pot giving me 3:1 so I need about 25% equity to call here and I had about 40%(flush draw+backdoor straight) BUT I could be drawing dead and have 0 outs.

I know shoving was horrible because it held no fold equity, it was kind of out of frustration and not that I thought it would cause folds/was the best play.
 
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TJs, pretty bad spot to squeeze flop vs 4 players, horrible to 5b gii, you got outs for the flush but villain can have outs for a boat if don´t hit it already.

AJ, bigger pre 6x or more, cb flop, you can get value from SD/FD/33-KK, and you are facing 3 villains so we want some folds before turn.


 
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9Ts, i will 3b depending on stats, vs unknown probably flat, rest looks fine
 
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Been grinding out some 5NL and am doing alright but was wanting some opinions on trouble hands and cba to make 20 analysis threads so figured I would just make a cash game thread! I would like to say I am a winning player at 5NL but only have a 15k sample size on PT4 so who knows. I have a bunch of saved hands I want to post but I am just going to post about 3-4 per day and see how that goes.

I feel like posting these hands without villain stats is going to complicate things but lets just look at it as general concepts of what I should do differently in these spots. I will include villain reads in upcoming hands but some of the hands I am going to post are up to 2 weeks old and I don't exactly remember villain images.


PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 47 BB
MP: 60.8 BB
Hero (MP+1): 164.4 BB
CO: 92.6 BB
BTN: 256.4 BB
SB: 126.2 BB
BB: 34.4 BB
UTG: 23 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 7♠ 9♠

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.6 BB, fold

I am pretty sure I opened with this hand because the Cutoff and Button were tight players and figured I would get folds from them.

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) J♥ 9♦ 9♣
SB checks, Hero bets 5 BB, SB calls 5 BB

Turn: (17 BB, 2 players) T♦
SB checks, Hero bets 13 BB, SB calls 13 BB

River: (43 BB, 2 players) 2♦
SB checks, Hero bets 43 BB, SB raises to 105.2 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 62.2 BB,

Am I basically bluff catching on this river? I really had villain on Jx and was sure he would pay off the pot bet.

This is a super tough spot. By the line of betting you basically have a bluff catcher - whether your villain intended it that way or not. You MAY be getting raised "for value" by J10, but that's iffy. The other lines that make sense are: player like to chase draws (most likely), player landed J9, A9, or JJ. Check-check is probably the better play given the action and the river.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): 118.2 BB
MP+1: 95.6 BB
CO: 97.2 BB
BTN: 99.6 BB
SB: 116 BB
BB: 78.2 BB
UTG: 120.4 BB
UTG+1: 62.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 3♣ 3♥

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 3 BB, fold

Flop: (9.4 BB, 2 players) 3♠ 4♦ 7♥
BB bets 9.4 BB, Hero calls 9.4 BB

It was awkward to be donked into by a pot sized bet on the flop and I was unsure of what to do so I just flatted, I feel like a raise would not of been horrible?

Turn: (28.2 BB, 2 players) A♠
BB bets 5 BB, Hero raises to 37.2 BB, fold,

I then choose to raise pot right here which was a poor move, I was hoping he had an A but now that I reviewed this hand big A's were all over my range and not his. I now put villain on a range of 66-1010 and should of flatted this bet and tried to get more money in on the river?

I can almost assure you the guy had something like 67, 78. On a low stakes table when someone hits a weak top pair they will often donk heavy. It's practically the living definition of donk betting. They know whatever comes next is going to be a scare card so they are looking to end it right there. Sure enough the Ace showed up, and your villain IMMEDIATELY shut down. On a low stakes table, you can sometimes get called off by shoving the flop there. They'll assume you are trying to bluff them off with AK. BUT, an alternate line is to flat and hope a broadway card doesn't pop. If it does, chances are you won't get much action. Best use of that situation is to flat and put in a big bet on the river. Villain is going to fold to basically any bet, so might as well put in a big one for value, show it, and get a little extra credit if you ever want to put in a river bluff later.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 98.6 BB
SB: 96 BB
BB: 44.2 BB
UTG: 52.4 BB
UTG+1: 222 BB
MP: 87.8 BB
MP+1: 31.6 BB
CO: 26.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♠ A♥

fold, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB calls 3.6 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB

Flop: (13 BB, 3 players) 3♥ 2♣ 7♦
SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets 10 BB, SB calls 10 BB, fold

Turn: (33 BB, 2 players) 4♠
SB checks, Hero checks

Should I of bet here? I really did not like this card because it completed flopped straight draws such as 65, A5.

River: (33 BB, 2 players) 5♦
SB checks, Hero bets 20 BB, fold,

When villain checks to me again I discount all straights from his range and bet the river. What do you think he floated with on the flop and do you think I was ever getting called on this river even if I bet 1/3rd pot?

Might have been a loose call from K3 or K7 suited, figured they hit something and wanted to roll with it.. could have just been some over cards, A10, KQ... or 66... lot of stuff really. I don't like the river bet at all. The line makes it look like you had something like A10-AK, rather than a big pair. And even if you had a big pair, that doesn't connect well with that board. I'd be tempted to check-raise that river. One of the few spots I would consider a full on river bluff. Unless I had you made for the type of player that could lure a bluff on that kind of board, but that's some upper echelon shit.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 63.8 BB
UTG+1: 59 BB
MP: 47.4 BB
MP+1: 103.2 BB
CO: 105.6 BB
BTN: 96.8 BB
Hero (SB): 137.6 BB
BB: 65.8 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♥ Q♥

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, BTN calls 6 BB

I like the raise pre

Me too

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) 2♥ 4♠ K♥
Hero bets 13 BB, BTN calls 13 BB

I like the smaller CB giving myself odds to draw to nut flush

I have mixed feelings on that bet.

Turn: (45 BB, 2 players) 6♣
Hero bets 33 BB, fold,

I am unsure of bet sizing on the turn right here, I really wanted villain to fold and thought it was going to take a good size bet, think I could of went smaller?

No, that was good bet. This is where your flop bet worked out well. Your bet on the flop was basically an "information" bet. From the opponents perspective it looks like you have something and are giving him good odds to call you, particularly with a draw. By ramping up the bet size you are basically saying "I think I had you on the flop, I know I have you on the turn" - it looks strong. A smaller bet may have kept in a player looking to draw out on you. You would only want to continue with the same betting size in hopes of having someone call you for value with a pocket pair or a hand that touched the board (45) on the river. You'd basically be playing for a showdown that way. Which in this case, you wouldn't want.

Thems my thoughts.
 
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Honestly, in a $.05NL game, I could expect any kind of play here. It is best to go on past history and not rely on just one hand. In my experience, at low limits there are very inexperienced players as well as maniacs so it is best to just pay attention to how they play and adjust accordingly.
 
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Trying to get tougher spots to post as I feel like these are not to hard but I am a newer player so a lot of my hands are more about value and lines and not really tough calls. Here is one for ya guys though, thoughts on this hand?

I am going to try to post less hands and tougher spots now, spots where I can feel the frustration and uncertainty during the hand. I wanted this to be much more active but it is a low level thread and I have been dealing with personal life problems lately(family member passed).

The month of May has been a crazy month for poker too. The first 15 sets I flopped I was losing money on! Happy to say I recovered from that brutal start to the month though and am up right now winning a staggering 1.79bb/100 over 7.5k hands haha. Would you guys like to see some graphs or anything? Monthly, all time?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 63.6 BB
CO: 85.4 BB
BTN: 107.4 BB
Hero (SB): 101 BB
BB: 92 BB
UTG: 246.6 BB
UTG+1: 49.8 BB
MP: 117.2 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:heart: A:diamond:

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, Hero calls 2.6 BB, BB calls 2 BB

I didn't want to raise pre because UTG was a solid TAG and I respected his raise and it just overall seemed like a marginal spot to raise but I feel like I should of, if I was in position I almost always raise this spot.

Flop: (15 BB, 5 players) 8:heart: 7:heart: Q:heart:
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets 7.4 BB, fold, BTN calls 7.4 BB, Hero calls 7.4 BB, fold

Here I float with 2nd nut flush draw, pretty standard?

Turn: (37.2 BB, 3 players) 3:heart:
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN bets 8.8 BB, Hero raises to 22.6 BB, fold, BTN calls 13.8 BB

Hit my draw and like how I played this street

River: (82.4 BB, 2 players) K:spade:

???

Jam, x/r, x/c, b/f are the options and what bet sizing do you like when we have less than a pot bet behind? Do I have to jam this river since I raised the turn and created such a small stack to pot ratio for the river?
 
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Sorry for your loss.

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I guess flating is fine considering UTG is really deep, make it bigger on turn, at least to 32bb, with that will have around 59bb left, jam river.
 
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Sorry for your loss.

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I guess flating is fine considering UTG is really deep, make it bigger on turn, at least to 32bb, with that will have around 59bb left, jam river.

I agree, but it's really hard to make out. I think you're facing down an AQ with the ace of hearts, but we're this far now. OOP, we've gotten ourselves into a bit of a jam now. This is a situation in which I get lost and probably push in the hopes that we get called by the :jh4:
 
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Yeah it is pretty obvious what he had and I felt that way during the hand yet I just jammed the river not really knowing what to do. Looking back I really wish I raised pre, I probably 3bet AK 90% of the time. Villain had A10hh
 
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Here is one for you guys, what the hell do I do on the turn when every draw gets completed? x/c? I think leading was awful since it is only getting called by better but I did not want him to check behind because if he did have a hand like AK or AA(which for sure fits the range I put him on from his preflop min 3bet.) Either way my thinking is flawed about him checking behind because we both have less than pot sized bets behind and could still get it in on the river. I think I figured this one out on my own buuutttttt, you guys can still comment haha

What draws if any should this guy have in his range?


PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 97 BB
SB: 45.2 BB
BB: 104.6 BB
UTG: 92 BB
UTG+1: 130.4 BB
Hero (MP): 203.6 BB
MP+1: 141 BB
CO: 91.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9:spade: 9:heart:

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, MP+1 raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls 7 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

Flop: (25.4 BB, 3 players) 9:club: 7:spade: K:club:
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, MP+1 bets 20 BB, fold, Hero raises to 57 BB, MP+1 calls 37 BB

Turn: (139.4 BB, 2 players) 8:club:
Hero bets 78.6 BB, MP+1 calls 76 BB and is all-in

River: (291.4 BB, 2 players) 3:diamond:
 
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AK with the Ac looks likely.

Wouldnt expect SCs, J10 to min raise pre. Sets are all ruled out by flop action, as well as AA. What else is there haha?

Min raise pre is kinda weird.
 
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AK with the Ac looks likely.

Wouldnt expect SCs, J10 to min raise pre. Sets are all ruled out by flop action, as well as AA. What else is there haha?

Min raise pre is kinda weird.

Good point, I did not think about sets being ruled out by flop action. He would of probably shoved majority of the time. So it really is just down to AK, AA and weirdly played drawing hands. Also if he has Ac he almost always calls that bet which makes my turn shove a little less horrible.
 
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Good point, I did not think about sets being ruled out by flop action. He would of probably shoved majority of the time. So it really is just down to AK, AA and weirdly played drawing hands. Also if he has Ac he almost always calls that bet which makes my turn shove a little less horrible.

AA shoves flop too. I just cant understand the min raise pre. Like, its not impossible for him that he's squeezing with J10s and other high SCs without even knowing he's doing it, and just decided to go crazy. And because he played so badly his hand is completely disguised. Because a min raise in this situation is so horrible and makes no sense at all. If you get what I mean? Fish also love chasing flushes and a call by him on the flop just backs up the BS that he's created pre flop.
 
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AA shoves flop too. I just cant understand the min raise pre. Like, its not impossible for him that he's squeezing with J10s and other high SCs without even knowing he's doing it, and just decided to go crazy. Because a min raise in this situation is so horrible and makes no sense at all. If you get what I mean?

I usually look at the min raises as a fish "juicing the pot up" type of bet but there is many theories why they do this. Maybe for a monster, speculative hand, fun, he just finished a beer, misclick.

He then makes a big cbet on the flop still showing strength and then I raise that which is SUPER strong so I honestly think any one pair hand slows down at this point, majority of the time, even AA. I suppose you could include Jc10c in his range and I can see a fish juicing a pot up pre with a hand like that thinking they will get paid if they hit, but unlikely.

Leads me to keep thinking AA or AK with Ac are the only hands calling on the turn that I am still ahead of.
 
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