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DunningKruger
Legend
Silver Level
http://en.donkr.com/Articles/optimal-3-bet-4-bet-5-bet-strategies-in-nl-holdem-6-max---part-1-329
The above pertains to constructing 4 and 5 betting ranges preflop that aren't easily exploitable. The below is a relevant strategy video for your consideration.
http://www.blogsandbucks.com/water-boat-online-poker-tips-how-to-15-bet-with-4-high-25/
I'd just like to add that your opponent is the single greatest factor in any decision you're going to make at the poker table. If they're the kind of person who only ever 4 bets KK+ then I would strongly recommend that you do not employ a 5 bet bluffing range lol. Actually from what I remember, you play like 5NL or thereabouts right. My suggestion would be to not worry about ever 5 betting with air at all. It'll work out a lot better for you.
The above pertains to constructing 4 and 5 betting ranges preflop that aren't easily exploitable. The below is a relevant strategy video for your consideration.
http://www.blogsandbucks.com/water-boat-online-poker-tips-how-to-15-bet-with-4-high-25/
I'd just like to add that your opponent is the single greatest factor in any decision you're going to make at the poker table. If they're the kind of person who only ever 4 bets KK+ then I would strongly recommend that you do not employ a 5 bet bluffing range lol. Actually from what I remember, you play like 5NL or thereabouts right. My suggestion would be to not worry about ever 5 betting with air at all. It'll work out a lot better for you.
LD1977
Legend
Silver Level
Ax suited if he also has a 4bet bluffing range (OK equity vs anything besides AA if called). This is unlikely at low levels.
Same goes for 4bet bluffing.
Light 4bet vs a 25% 3bettor from blinds:
Light shove vs a guy who 4bets 5.2% yet stacks off only QQ+. Meaning he folds a crapload and I have 30% equity vs QQ+.
Same goes for 4bet bluffing.
Light 4bet vs a 25% 3bettor from blinds:
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed)
Hero (Button) ($25)
SB ($22.97)
BB ($46.43)
UTG ($27.10)
UTG+1 ($18.49)
MP1 ($2.58)
MP2 ($51.18)
MP3 ($26.64)
CO ($47.51)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A
, 2
6 folds, Hero raises to $0.62, 1 fold, BB raises to $1.90, Hero raises to $7, 1 fold
Total pot: $3.90 | Rake: $0
Results below:
Hero didn't show A
, 2
.
Hero (Button) ($25)
SB ($22.97)
BB ($46.43)
UTG ($27.10)
UTG+1 ($18.49)
MP1 ($2.58)
MP2 ($51.18)
MP3 ($26.64)
CO ($47.51)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A
6 folds, Hero raises to $0.62, 1 fold, BB raises to $1.90, Hero raises to $7, 1 fold
Total pot: $3.90 | Rake: $0
Results below:
Hero didn't show A
Light shove vs a guy who 4bets 5.2% yet stacks off only QQ+. Meaning he folds a crapload and I have 30% equity vs QQ+.
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed)
Hero (Button) ($25)
SB ($25.05)
BB ($16.55)
UTG ($24.30)
UTG+1 ($46.04)
MP1 ($14.78)
MP2 ($33.57)
MP3 ($26.67)
CO ($25.35)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 4
, A
5 folds, CO raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.90, 2 folds, CO raises to $6.50, Hero raises to $25 (All-In), CO calls $18.50
Flop: ($50.35) 3
, 7
, A
(2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: ($50.35) 3
(2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($50.35) 3
(2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $50.35 | Rake: $2
Results below:
Hero had 4
, A
(full house, threes over Aces).
CO had Q
, Q
(full house, threes over Queens).
Outcome: Hero won $48.35
Hero (Button) ($25)
SB ($25.05)
BB ($16.55)
UTG ($24.30)
UTG+1 ($46.04)
MP1 ($14.78)
MP2 ($33.57)
MP3 ($26.67)
CO ($25.35)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 4
5 folds, CO raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.90, 2 folds, CO raises to $6.50, Hero raises to $25 (All-In), CO calls $18.50
Flop: ($50.35) 3
Turn: ($50.35) 3
River: ($50.35) 3
Total pot: $50.35 | Rake: $2
Results below:
Hero had 4
CO had Q
Outcome: Hero won $48.35
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Aces2w1n
Legend
Silver Level
Ax suited if he also has a 4bet bluffing range (OK equity vs anything besides AA if called). This is unlikely at low levels.
Same goes for 4bet bluffing.
Light 4bet vs a 25% 3bettor from blinds:
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed)
Hero (Button) ($25)
SB ($22.97)
BB ($46.43)
UTG ($27.10)
UTG+1 ($18.49)
MP1 ($2.58)
MP2 ($51.18)
MP3 ($26.64)
CO ($47.51)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A, 2
6 folds, Hero raises to $0.62, 1 fold, BB raises to $1.90, Hero raises to $7, 1 fold
Total pot: $3.90 | Rake: $0
Results below:
Hero didn't show A, 2.
Light shove vs a guy who 4bets 5.2% yet stacks off only QQ+. Meaning he folds a crapload and I have 30% equity vs QQ+.
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed)
Hero (Button) ($25)
SB ($25.05)
BB ($16.55)
UTG ($24.30)
UTG+1 ($46.04)
MP1 ($14.78)
MP2 ($33.57)
MP3 ($26.67)
CO ($25.35)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 4, A
5 folds, CO raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.90, 2 folds, CO raises to $6.50, Hero raises to $25 (All-In), CO calls $18.50
Flop: ($50.35) 3, 7, A(2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: ($50.35) 3(2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($50.35) 3(2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $50.35 | Rake: $2
Results below:
Hero had 4, A(full house, threes over Aces).
CO had Q, Q(full house, threes over Queens).
Outcome: Hero won $48.35
Nice examples
... would've put the guy with qq on tilt hopefully
U
Ubercroz
Visionary
Silver Level
You shouldn't, and almost never.
The only reason you need to have air in your five bet range is if people are 4beting you light. If you are playing 1/2 live then no one is 4beting light.
Trying to pick up on someones light 4bet is pretty tough, and it takes some time. The real issue is that you are going to get called almost 100% of the time when someone 4bets and you 5bet. Likely your 5bet is going to be a shove if you are deep and people don't play a nuanced game at 1/2.
Stick to value betting, you don't need to deviate from that. If you do decide to 5bet or 4bet light, let me know. I will give you my address and you can just send me your money instead, there's no reason to just waste it like that.
The only reason you need to have air in your five bet range is if people are 4beting you light. If you are playing 1/2 live then no one is 4beting light.
Trying to pick up on someones light 4bet is pretty tough, and it takes some time. The real issue is that you are going to get called almost 100% of the time when someone 4bets and you 5bet. Likely your 5bet is going to be a shove if you are deep and people don't play a nuanced game at 1/2.
Stick to value betting, you don't need to deviate from that. If you do decide to 5bet or 4bet light, let me know. I will give you my address and you can just send me your money instead, there's no reason to just waste it like that.
Aces2w1n
Legend
Silver Level
Yes but can you recognize the correct targets live? No HUD
lol got any memorial hands??? I can pick on weak tight without a hud.
Hmmm alright 2 manaics at the table... with a straddle on.
Perhaps UTG+1 raises trying to challenge everyone else cause straddle. Maniac goes stuff this I'm gonna bet cuz that's what I do. Tighty calls... Maniac 2 raises. Tighty calls... And us UTG (being us) go woooshka
lol random scenorio
akaRobbo
Visionary
Silver Level
5 bet with air? Where are you regularly playing at, Poker After Dark or partypoker Big Games? I'll be sure to look out for you on tv next time.
Joking aside, never 5 bet with air please, even at the casino...
4 bet with weak hands only with SOLID reads on aggros. I see people flatting 3xBB all the time with AK and QQ so don't think you're gonna be up against marginal hands after villain 3 bets you.
Joking aside, never 5 bet with air please, even at the casino...
4 bet with weak hands only with SOLID reads on aggros. I see people flatting 3xBB all the time with AK and QQ so don't think you're gonna be up against marginal hands after villain 3 bets you.