5 situations I encountered in 1/2NL (200NL) Live Cash

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1/2NL. Live cash. Stacks are typically 100-$150 large. Mostly TAG players. No aggro at this table.

Do you have any feedback on the following 5 situations?

1) Dealt 93 on the button. There were no raises, just maybe 2-3 limpers. I folded. Do you like to bet ATC here? How large a pre-flop would I need to clear some people out? 4BB + 1BB/limper = $14. Let's say V misses and check/folds. Was it worth risking $14 just to win $6 ?

2) You get A 10 in very early position. Do you fold, limp, or raise?

3) You get Q 10 in late position cutoff. 6 people have limped before you. Do you like to fold or raise? If raise, how much? 4BB + 6BB = 10BB ? ($20 bet in 1/2NL)

4) Dealt pocket 2's. There is a $24 FPR before me. One other person call before me. Rule of 20 not happening here, as stacks sizes are not huge here. $24 x 20 = $500. Avg stack was closer to $150, tops. I folded. Was this the right move?

5) Dealt QQ in early position. I raise to $8. Several callers. Flop comes with a King, and I think I fold when V bets out.
 
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1) 93's a little raggy for a 1/2 game, where people aren't going to be giving up super easily.
2) Full ring, I probably fold it.
3) Raise, and raise pretty big. $20-$25 sounds right. Just make sure the players are ones who you believe are easy for you to control. A crazy drunk guy can make this a bad play.
4) Yeah, fold's good. Huge PFR's in 1/2 play are common, and they make the game more amenable to top pair/small stack-to-pot ratio type hands.
5) I probably c-bet here, but check/folding is fine too.
 
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1/2NL. Live cash. Stacks are typically 100-$150 large. Mostly TAG players. No aggro at this table.

Do you have any feedback on the following 5 situations?

1) Dealt 93 on the button. There were no raises, just maybe 2-3 limpers. I folded. Do you like to bet ATC here? How large a pre-flop would I need to clear some people out? 4BB + 1BB/limper = $14. Let's say V misses and check/folds. Was it worth risking $14 just to win $6 ?

2) You get A 10 in very early position. Do you fold, limp, or raise?

3) You get Q 10 in late position cutoff. 6 people have limped before you. Do you like to fold or raise? If raise, how much? 4BB + 6BB = 10BB ? ($20 bet in 1/2NL)

4) Dealt pocket 2's. There is a $24 FPR before me. One other person call before me. Rule of 20 not happening here, as stacks sizes are not huge here. $24 x 20 = $500. Avg stack was closer to $150, tops. I folded. Was this the right move?

5) Dealt QQ in early position. I raise to $8. Several callers. Flop comes with a King, and I think I fold when V bets out.

1. I'm folding, I will raise with that hand on the button if folded to me, but otherwise I won't be messing around with it.

2. This is a hard question. I am typically folding though. There are too many to act behind you and if you get a caller, you are likely OOP. Maybe to tight for some, but I don't like to get myself into uncomfortable situations and this type of hand early tends to get uncomfortable.

3. I am probably just limping along as well, but I am guessing everyone will tell me that's a bad move, and I can see the point.

4. Folding is just fine.

5. Yep, V isn't betting into a malty player pot without having QQ beat on a K high board in most cases. Good fold IMO.
 
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1/2NL. Live cash. Stacks are typically 100-$150 large. Mostly TAG players. No aggro at this table.

I smell contradiction. TAG - aggression sounds like fishing.

1. I'm folding. Unless you have fairly good reads and can maneuver carefully. With the limpers, usually you have to hit the flop for this hand to be profitable.

2. With the table as is I'm folding

3. Better to limp with position than to squeeze and risk bloating a pot with a weak hand (or even get blown out preflop)

4. Easy fold.

5. Unless $8 is the standard at the table, its too small. At most $1-$2 live tables, opening preflop raises from $10-$15 are very common.
 
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Thanks for the replies based on limited info.
Looks like I am in the right ballpark.

Agreed that $8 is too small a PFR to clear people out. Needs to be $12+
 
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1/2NL. Live cash. Stacks are typically 100-$150 large. Mostly TAG players. No aggro at this table.

Do you have any feedback on the following 5 situations?

1) Just fold. UNLESS you are convinced the blinds know you will not bet here without a solid hand.

2) Fold

3) Limping is asking for trouble here. A raise will definitely get called. Fold and wait.

4) I like it. You would have to flop a set here to have this hand hold up.

5) Not necessarily.

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fold 93, betting atc is a terrible strategy in a cash game, you should still be disciplined and construct ranges that you figure will be profitable etc. or estimate how of ten you can get folds if you raise pre and take it down there, in a soft 1/2 game it's likely that 2-3 limpers will call most raises anyway so better stick to tag ranges.

In a full ring game where there's a lot of pre flop raises going on I like to fold A10o and perhaps raise A10s, but it's table dependant, I think limp can work too.

Qt after 6 limpers I probably limp along, raise isn't going to accomplish much other than inflate the pot huge post flop and have to play against several of the callers. Better to keep it low variance and limp imo, but if you think the button to your left will raise iso a good % of time then there could be anrgument for raise iso'ing QTs yourself.

Fold 2's to that size of raise.

qq sounds standard, be prepared to fold when overs hit, esp if opponent is betting into multiple people, if it was hu to the flop i doubt i'd probably be seeing at least the turn most of the time.
 
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I think I should have raised QQ from EP to something like $15 ...
 
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1) Dealt 93 on the button. There were no raises, just maybe 2-3 limpers. I folded. Do you like to bet ATC here? How large a pre-flop would I need to clear some people out? 4BB + 1BB/limper = $14. Let's say V misses and check/folds. Was it worth risking $14 just to win $6 ?

93 is pretty lousy HU or multiway. Even for a dead money grabber 93 is a fold.

2) You get A 10 in very early position. Do you fold, limp, or raise?

AT UTG/UTG+1 is a fold. It feels tight tossing a what's often considered a "premium" hand, but if you have 8-9 people to act behind you you'll almost always be facing difficult decisions with AT. I'm not even a huge fan of AJo UTG in a full ring.

3) You get Q 10 in late position cutoff. 6 people have limped before you. Do you like to fold or raise? If raise, how much? 4BB + 6BB = 10BB ? ($20 bet in 1/2NL)

This is negotiable. With 6 limpers I don't think it's a bad idea to put in a big raise. People are a bit more aggressive pre flop in live 1/2 from my experience, so I'd put in something like $24. HOWEVER, before routinely making this kind of a move, I think it's important to have a good idea of what the first limper's open-limp range is, and how likely he is to call. Some guys will open limp Ace-Rag, and simply not fold it. And if your first limper doesn't fold, some of the other limpers are getting better odds to come along. Take the temperature of the table!

4) Dealt pocket 2's. There is a $24 FPR before me. One other person call before me. Rule of 20 not happening here, as stacks sizes are not huge here. $24 x 20 = $500. Avg stack was closer to $150, tops. I folded. Was this the right move?

I tend to like small pocket pairs because the 1/8 times you hit a set it pays pretty well. But it kind of requires that you feel you can get more than 8x the money when you hit. 22 is playable HU, but pretty much useless multi-way as you're almost always going to be beat by the river. Other thing to consider is that 12xBB raise is pretty looney, and the flat call behind it signals crazy strength. Good chance that 22 is up against a higher pocket pairs here - and can result over the dreaded set over set. This is a fold.

5) Dealt QQ in early position. I raise to $8. Several callers. Flop comes with a King, and I think I fold when V bets out.

This is one of the places online and live tend to be very different. 4xBB early raise usually only gets one or two callers online. Live, you're going to have to size higher. UTG I usually open $13. $8 I'll save for CO/BTN
 
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This is one of the places online and live tend to be very different. 4xBB early raise usually only gets one or two callers online. Live, you're going to have to size higher. UTG I usually open $13. $8 I'll save for CO/BTN

Why do you raise less when in late position?
B/c you want more callers to be able to play the button strongly after the flop?
 
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1. Folding is the best option unless you know for a fact you can bluff but even then you almost always going to be behind. I think its a bad hand to even bluff to scoop the blinds.

2. I would at least min raise it and see if you can get the table moving. Not only that, you can see how quickly people fold/ play their blinds.

3. For me Q10 in late position is a great hand to play. No one knows what you have when you flat call and with a tight table your 10 might give you the edge on some non dealt 9's and 8's out there for a straight.

4. Yep good fold. = )

5. Depends on how much he bet into how much of a pot. If its cheap for you to see a card you might want to call. He/she could have 2nd pair with an A kicker. Sometimes the value of calling is worth it to see what their action is on the turn.

Hope that it helps! = ) Good Luck!
 
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1/2NL. Live cash. Stacks are typically 100-$150 large. Mostly TAG players. No aggro at this table.

Do you have any feedback on the following 5 situations?

1) Dealt 93 on the button. There were no raises, just maybe 2-3 limpers. I folded. Do you like to bet ATC here? How large a pre-flop would I need to clear some people out? 4BB + 1BB/limper = $14. Let's say V misses and check/folds. Was it worth risking $14 just to win $6 ?

Muck, you have absolutely nothing, and can't flop much that will both get action and win.....just bc you are on the btn does not mean it i ATC in a cash game.....what is the rush?

2) You get A 10 in very early position. Do you fold, limp, or raise?

Depends a lot on the table....I would lean towards a much at a TAGyy table and might even limp some extraordinarily passive ones. If you are 6 handed or less raise it up imho.

3) You get Q 10 in late position cutoff. 6 people have limped before you. Do you like to fold or raise? If raise, how much? 4BB + 6BB = 10BB ? ($20 bet in 1/2NL)

I call. Suited I might mix in some raises here, but I don't see it as a great options without more details.

4) Dealt pocket 2's. There is a $24 FPR before me. One other person call before me. Rule of 20 not happening here, as stacks sizes are not huge here. $24 x 20 = $500. Avg stack was closer to $150, tops. I folded. Was this the right move?

Easy, what was your logic in thinking this is even close?

5) Dealt QQ in early position. I raise to $8. Several callers. Flop comes with a King, and I think I fold when V bets out.

What was the rest of the flop, lol....depends on the player, flop texture, table dynamics.....etc. A lot depends on the type of player and flop texture involved and you have included none of that info.
 
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1. Just fold. LOL.

2. 9 handed, I fold. 6 handed or less, I call/raise AT.

3. Fold. QT is marginal.

4. Have to consider implied odds here but more on folding here.

5. Your raise is too little for me.
 
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1. Just fold. LOL.

2. 9 handed, I fold. 6 handed or less, I call/raise AT.

3. Fold. QT is marginal.

4. Have to consider implied odds here but more on folding here.

5. Your raise is too little for me.

Even if you're 90%+ sure you are seeing a flop for1BB in position ?

I am not saying that was the situation, but if it were...we definitely want to see the flop here with a hand that can make the nuts.
 
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1/2NL. Live cash. Stacks are typically 100-$150 large. Mostly TAG players. No aggro at this table.

Do you have any feedback on the following 5 situations?

1) Dealt 93 on the button. There were no raises, just maybe 2-3 limpers. I folded. Do you like to bet ATC here? How large a pre-flop would I need to clear some people out? 4BB + 1BB/limper = $14. Let's say V misses and check/folds. Was it worth risking $14 just to win $6 ?

2) You get A 10 in very early position. Do you fold, limp, or raise?

3) You get Q 10 in late position cutoff. 6 people have limped before you. Do you like to fold or raise? If raise, how much? 4BB + 6BB = 10BB ? ($20 bet in 1/2NL)

4) Dealt pocket 2's. There is a $24 FPR before me. One other person call before me. Rule of 20 not happening here, as stacks sizes are not huge here. $24 x 20 = $500. Avg stack was closer to $150, tops. I folded. Was this the right move?

5) Dealt QQ in early position. I raise to $8. Several callers. Flop comes with a King, and I think I fold when V bets out.

1. Fold. The payoff is not worth the risk. The worst thing that could happen to you is the flop comes up something like 9-6-4 rainbow. And now you've got top pair and crap for a kicker. You'd be very susceptible to getting outkicked.

2. Raise to $6 and see what happens. Be prepared to fold to a reraise, depending upon what you know about the person. I wouldn't call an all-in unless I thought the person was not too bright.

3. Everybody has limped in before you? I'd join the club and see what happens.

4. Fold every day and twice on Sunday.

5. That's a tough call. If I were first to act, I'd probably do a Cbet of about $8 again to see what happens.
 
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