5 hands with questions. Answers please?

LuckyChippy

LuckyChippy

Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 28, 2009
Total posts
4,987
Chips
0
Here we go....

I played this one fairly passively and just called all the way. I think I under repped my hand so by the river I'm in quite a tricky spot. Should I be re-raising the turn? I don't know really, we fold out his draws but also all pairs and possibly KJ/10. The river is the big decision for me and I'm really not sure whether the call is +EV. I'm not raising but is it a fold?

full tilt poker $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 688300
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

SB: $9.90
BB: $13.47
UTG: $5.00
MP: $9.99
CO: $10.24
Hero (BTN): $11.63

Pre Flop: ($0.09) Hero is BTN with K :diamond: Q :heart:
2 folds, CO raises to $0.21, Hero calls $0.21, 1 fold, BB calls $0.16

Flop: ($0.65) 3 :heart: 3 :club: K :club: (3 players)
BB checks, CO bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, BB folds

Turn: ($1.15) 2 :heart: (2 players)
CO bets $0.55, Hero calls $0.55

River: ($2.25) 6 :club: (2 players)
CO bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75

I think pre-flop and flop are standard, I'm betting that flop pretty much every time. The turn is really tricky and I was really unsure what to do, being OOP made it really tricky. I c/c which I think was really bad. I have the Ah and I think it's a good turn card to barrel. After the turn my hand is pretty face up and I can't call his bet.

Full Tilt Poker $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 688373
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Hero (UTG): $5.50
MP: $5.07
CO: $6.98
BTN: $5.10
SB: $5.02
BB: $11.03

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with Q :diamond: A :heart:
Hero raises to $0.20, MP calls $0.20, CO calls $0.20, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.67) 7 :heart: 9 :heart: K :club: (3 players)
Hero bets $0.45, MP folds, CO calls $0.45

Turn: ($1.57) 3 :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.00, Hero calls $1

River: ($3.57) 9 :spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.85, Hero folds

Quite a wierd hand. 3-bet preflop could be spew but I'm experimenting and it's seemed ok at the time. I hit a bit and it's a meh to good flop to c-bet so i do. Then I get check-min raised. Serious WTF moment. I called cause it seemed retarded and I had no idea what to do. The turn I check back which is likely bad again. Draw's get a free card, if he has a big hand then I'm no closer to knowing and likely to face a tricky river. Then the river. He bets and I have no idea where I am so I call hoping he missed a draw. yes hoping. Not good.

Full Tilt Poker $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 688426
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

SB: $5.58
BB: $13.29
UTG: $10.83
CO: $7.27
Hero (BTN): $7.71

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with 8 :diamond: 9 :club:
UTG calls $0.05, CO raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.50, 3 folds, CO calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.12) 6 :club: Q :heart: 9 :heart: (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.60, CO raises to $1.20, Hero calls $0.60

Turn: ($3.52) 3 :spade: (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($3.52) 4 :club: (2 players)
CO bets $1.74, Hero calls $1.74

The 3-bet pre might be spew, from the blinds I'm not sure if it's a good play. probably not. On the flop I've hit something and I basically checked it to him to see what he does. I'm calling a bet there almost always. I check the turn because nothing has changed and he bets out. I call because it doesn't make much sense that he has much and if he does I'm going to know on the river. That sounds like a reverse turn float or something. By this point though I'm pretty sure he has over cards. I hit trips on the river and can't see any reason to bet. He folds likely over cards. Over pairs will probably bet and I can c/r.

Full Tilt Poker $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 688446
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $5.36
BB: $5.07
UTG: $5.85
MP: $5.10
CO: $5.16
BTN: $5.00

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with 8 :heart: 7 :spade:
2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.05) 4 :club: 7 :diamond: T :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($1.05) 3 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.42, Hero calls $0.42

River: ($1.89) 7 :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Raise OTB, 3-bet from the blinds and I call, seems standard. WA/WB on the flop imo. AK/KQ/KJ have us crushed, AJ/10 and pairs we have crushed. So I check it back. Small bet on the turn seems retarded so I bump it up, probably should have been a bit larger, but throughout the hand I played quite carefully, that's my main question, too careful? He just calls and now I'm pretty sure I have the best hand. He check so I bet the river for value. Do we like the size of the bet? Could I have got more value throughout the hand? I think so.

Full Tilt Poker $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 688497
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

SB: $13.60
BB: $11.86
CO: $6.91
Hero (BTN): $5.27

CO posts a big blind ($0.05)

Pre Flop: ($0.14) Hero is BTN with A :heart: Q :diamond:
CO checks, Hero raises to $0.20, 1 fold, BB raises to $0.69, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.49

Flop: ($1.47) K :club: K :heart: A :diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.47) 5 :heart: (2 players)
BB bets $0.45, Hero raises to $1, BB calls $0.55

River: ($3.47) 3 :diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50


Ok lots to read so I'll let you do it. Any advice on any hand and any part is appreciated.

Oh and you can try and guess my opponents cards if you want, should be fun!

Thanks.
 
LuckyChippy

LuckyChippy

Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 28, 2009
Total posts
4,987
Chips
0
Meh, I can't be bothered finding them now I'm going to bed in a few minutes. I might get them tomorrow. I just marked them for later whilst playing but when I replayed them I remember the stats not coming up for some reason. I'll see tomorrow.
 
thepokerkid123

thepokerkid123

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 31, 2009
Total posts
917
Chips
0
Hand 1, never fold.

Hand 2, when OOP and in a tough spot, betting is good. Checking makes the hand really difficult.

Hand 3, good hand to 3bet. Flop, betting turns your hand into a bluff with 5 outs, checking weakens your range and let's you either bluff catch or value bet 2nd pair. Both are good situations to be in. I check this back most of the time because we're IP, I bet it almost 100% of the time OOP. Fold to his flop min c/r, keep an eye on his min-raise frequency because if he is bluffing, folding is really exploitable but usually speaking middle pair weak kicker doesn't have a whole lot of equity here, just get out of the way.
FWIW, the river call is a good spot to make a crying call, all draws missed and he bet 1/2 pot, you're getting 3:1, is he really value betting 3x more than he is bluffing? Calling is ok, imo.

Hand 4, need reads to 3bet pre-flop. If no reads, yes it's very spewy. If you check the flop, you have to call his next bet as long as it isn't an overbet. Same as last hand really though, bet and turn your hand into a bluff or check and bluff catch. We're OOP, I'm not getting fancy, I bet flop and turn most of the time, and check-call the river a lot. I'm assuming his flop calling range would be basically any overs and any pp which is still pretty weak after calling a bet on the flop.
Since you took the c/c line though, play it the same as you did but bet the river. I don't mind the c/r attempt if he's doing a good job of putting you on a range, but it's 5nl and he's an unknown so I just value bet and give him a chance to do something stupid.

Hand 5, bet the flop. You're getting value from A's (so it's not WA/WB). You'd also be betting this flop with anything other than an A in your hand, 100% of the time, it's 5nl so you don't have to worry about that but I just thought I'd bring it to your attention.
 
LuckyChippy

LuckyChippy

Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 28, 2009
Total posts
4,987
Chips
0
Hand 5, bet the flop. You're getting value from A's (so it's not WA/WB). You'd also be betting this flop with anything other than an A in your hand, 100% of the time, it's 5nl so you don't have to worry about that but I just thought I'd bring it to your attention.

Thanks for the input mate, I found it really useful to just type out my thought processes and other opinions are really helpful.

I do disagree that it's a WA/WB situation, but I do understand that it's probably a good flop to bet. I just felt that I'd get some good value from aces, alot more value from pairs and lose the min if he gets frisky with a king, by checking the flop.

Hand 4 when I looked over it again I kinda went WTF am I 3-betting there for, I realised afterwards it was pretty spewy lol. I agree that against 5nl players betting the river rather than expecting them to bluff with overs is a better line.

Hand 3 you're probably right, he's very often going to have a hand, it just seemed really retarded at the time and didn't seem strong. Maybe one of those feelings :rolleyes:. After the turn check I felt I could call cause again it just made no sense. Imo when a hand makes no sense it's a monster or nothing. I figured nothing.

Hand 2 I knew as soon as I checked that I'd screwed up. I need to learn to take more time.

Cheers again.
 
M

marknz88

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Oct 29, 2009
Total posts
178
Chips
0
I'll give them a go. Bear with me as this is my first time doing a HH reply post :)

Hand1: Fine as played I think. Had he shoved the river then I may consider folding due to the flush getting there.

His range is something like Kx, Ax and mid PP I reckon on this board.

Hand2: I would check back that flop. That range hits villain quiet hard and by betting we dont know where we are in the hand if they call. However we are definitely calling at least another street to re-evaluate.

When the Heart comes on the Turn Im betting to represent the flush. $1.00 looks fine here.

With the River pairing the 9 i'm checking back. Villains raise looks like a set to me so we definitely folding

Hand3: Il'd be more inclined to 3b suited connectors than offsuit connectors. However depending how light the CO is opening its not that bad. However if 4b you are folding for sure.

Being in position we are cbetting this flop which is good. With the checkraise this depends on villains stats. Has he cr before? if so what did he do it with? I would be inclined to fold as it seems he wants to get money in the pot and realistically the best our hand can improve to is two pair.

Hand4: Similar to hand above preflop especially since now we are in the small blind (range should be much tighter here)

flop check is fine being oop. Turn call is fine due to size of his bet. If it was larger I would be thinking he has Tx or some kind of straight draw so would have to work out if we are getting odds to call. River we should definitely bet for value. Straight draw missed and if he has Tx he's going to call. Depends on villain but anywhere from $1.00 to $1.50 if he will call it. Only time I would check it back is if villain bluffs a lot and would spew here with missed draws etc. Then we could check raise and try and get stacks.

Hand5: 4x on the BTN at 5NL is fine and we do have a decent hand. If villains fold a lot in the blinds I would be inclined to 3x it to induce them to call.

Pretty much we have the nuts here. Could bet to take it down right there however if you think you can get value on later streets a check is fine.

Turn raise seems fine. If he would call it I would make it 3x his raise due to stack sizes.

River: Betting for value again from any lower A and PP. Again depends on what villain will call but I would bet closer to 2.80-3.00 if he will call.
 
S

Skaplun

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Apr 30, 2010
Total posts
269
Chips
0
I wrote a real essay about your post but like an idiot I somehow erased it from my phone. 2 main points you should look at. Decision making and planning out a whole hand. I dont know if you feel comfortable with the lvl you are in, if you are you should be able to make decisions on the flop for the entire hand. if you are comfortabl with your bankroll the AQ on a AKK flop should be an insta shove, unless you are facing an aggro and so call to induce.
Second point you should look at is 3betting in position, which is a good tool but maybe think a bit about the ranges you might wanna do it with (they should be different against an EP raise and an LP raise.)

I can't be bothered at the moment to write the entire essay down again, let me know what you think of those topics.
 
LuckyChippy

LuckyChippy

Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 28, 2009
Total posts
4,987
Chips
0
I wrote a real essay about your post but like an idiot I somehow erased it from my phone. 2 main points you should look at. Decision making and planning out a whole hand. I dont know if you feel comfortable with the lvl you are in, if you are you should be able to make decisions on the flop for the entire hand. if you are comfortabl with your bankroll the AQ on a AKK flop should be an insta shove, unless you are facing an aggro and so call to induce.
Second point you should look at is 3betting in position, which is a good tool but maybe think a bit about the ranges you might wanna do it with (they should be different against an EP raise and an LP raise.)

I can't be bothered at the moment to write the entire essay down again, let me know what you think of those topics.

With the AQ hand i'm unsure what you're saying. Pre-flop i don't like 4-betting the hand especially when I have position. On the flop i checked back but throughout the rest of the hand I raised and bet. No calling.

ATM I'm playing with 3-betting. I'm trying to 3-bet more hands like connectors in positon as well as big hands and call with hands like AQ/KQ/1010, unless he calls 3-bets light in which case I would be 3-betting more broadways. I realise the 3-bet OOP with 89o was bad.

As it's 6-max I usually think in terms of UTG, MP and CO. My ranges change but not massively. I'm still calling an UTG raise with AQ and I'm quite often calling a CO raise too. I'm trying to get used to setting up profitable situations post flop, rather than being over agro pre-flop.
 
Starting Hands - Poker Hand Nicknames Rankings - Poker Hands
Top