4NL AKs / 3bet by BB

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VP 29
PFR 10
3B 7
AF 6
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His range must be tight to 3 bet an UTG open OOP.

His 3 bet is the min and my hand is to strong to fold pre.

On the Flop i'm getting 2.5:1 and I have 15 outs. I'm a 47-15=32/15=2.13:1 dog for my draw so there is no way I can fold.

I didn't bet the turn because he checked to me and I figured if I check back he may bet the river.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.04 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com<br>
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CO ($8.07)<br>
Button ($3.71)<br>
SB ($3.37)<br>
BB ($4.52)<br>
Hero (UTG) ($4)<br>
UTG+1 ($2.19)<br>
MP1 ($4.08)<br>
MP2 ($5.09)<br>
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K
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, A
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Hero bets $0.12, 6 folds, BB raises $0.16, Hero calls $0.08<br>
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Flop: ($0.42) 4
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, J
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, 7
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(2 players)<br>
BB bets $0.28, Hero calls $0.28<br>
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Turn: ($0.98) 3
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(2 players)<br>
BB checks, Hero checks<br>
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River: ($0.98) 3
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(2 players)<br>
BB checks, Hero bets $0.65, 1 fold<br>
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dooydoo

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Calling fine is pre. I dont like getting it allin in that spot.

Calling flop is fine.

I would 100% of the time bet the turn when he x to you. You have the stone cold nuts, bet for value. He can call with worse here.

On the river bet again.
 
OMGITSOVER9K

OMGITSOVER9K

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guess for a blind more its fine..

bet turn, bet river.

easy game.
 
Tino11

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Some players take 'ownership' of their blinds, its thier money [chips] and they must defend at all costs. So the aggressive line of his would fit that type of player. But the 3bet and following cbet doesn't shake you off so he shuts down. You are very seldom getting him to call another bet. He may take a stab at a river bluff, but doubtful. His play on the turn or river is very much check/fold.
Thats my experiences most of the time anyway with this kind of line.
 
ben_rhyno

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He 3b 7%, I would 4bet and get it in here.
On the flop, raise and get it in.
On the turn when he checks to you, bet big and bet all rivers big.
 
jbbb

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Every time you check behind with the nuts a kitten dies :(
 
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put more money in on every street, congrats you made the nuts and won the minimum.
 
XXXDIRTYDOGXXX

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I would say over bet the pot on turn, with his aggressive attack pre and flop then he will at least call the turn. Take his chips there.
 
bgomez89

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Are you ignoring the HA section on purpose or do you not know one exists?
 
Deco

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Calling fine is pre. I dont like getting it allin in that spot.

Calling flop is fine.

I would 100% of the time bet the turn when he x to you. You have the stone cold nuts, bet for value. He can call with worse here.

On the river bet again.

Ditto
 
WVHillbilly

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Why am I the only one who HATES flatting preflop? Guy's an aggro sprewtard who very well could get AI with dominated hands. I happily 4bet/get it in preflop.
 
ghOst

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i would have reraised on the flop. Calling doesnt eliminate the flush draw from his mind and possible hands if he knows your range. Reraising considers such possible hands like KJ QJ AJ and maybe 10J. Key factor is that he 3bet you pre and would be most likely to get his money in if you would have 3 bet him on the flop. His shove would be considering his image on you with a loose range and taking down the pot fast. I also would have 4bet pre you know...and now this juicy nut draw on the flop would have also made me shove right on the flop after his raise. Dont slow play the nuts. Thats simple. Ruins your image in the long run.
 
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Given how aggressive he is post flop you are just bleeding money by flatting pre and playing fit/fold post flop. Preferably 4b pre or at least play your monster draw aggressively on the flop.

As played to the turn you have to bet turn because you would (hopefully) stab with 100% of your floating range which are not FD's.

As played to river I would bet bigger cause you have missed so much value and can get called by worse.
 
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Given how aggressive he is post flop you are just bleeding money by flatting pre and playing fit/fold post flop. Preferably 4b pre or at least play your monster draw aggressively on the flop.

This, when you flat pre you're going to fold the best hand a huge % of the time.
 
Deco

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Why am I the only one who HATES flatting preflop? Guy's an aggro sprewtard who very well could get AI with dominated hands. I happily 4bet/get it in preflop.

Didn't notice villain had stats. Uber fish defo needs 3betting.
 
Arjonius

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Flatting pre- seems overly conservative, especially when it means giving up the initiative and putting yourself OOP to the flop. What are you planning to do it, as happens the majority of the time, you miss?

And while you have 15 outs on the flop, all outs are not the same. 8 of the flush ones are clean since they give you the nuts. The 4c pairs the board, making a boat possible, so it's not as good as the other 8. Similarly, your 6 pair outs improve your hand but not necessarily enough to win the hand.
 
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Raise the flop to $1.10 and call if he shoves. As played bet turn obviously.
 
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