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Yep, pretty much just experienced a standard micro player revelation 'Im 3betting too much in the blinds and not enough in position' and want some help trying to change my mindset so I can change that.

Basically my 3bet from the blinds is about 8% from sb and 6% from sb. Whereas my 3bet from other positions stretches from 2%-4% from EP to BTN. I know this is very low but I dont like to 3bet in position as I like to take a flop when in position as I think I have a better edge against micro players after the flop. I feel like if I 3bet my mediocre hands Ill be getting either folds or 4bets too often. I 3bet from the blinds more because of the opposite. I dont really want to take a flop out of position against a preflop raiser as unless hes a super weird or fishy player Ill just be c/f most flops and the ones I hit Id likely only get 1 street of value anyway so I prefer to try and end it pre.

Thats just my thinking behind why I play like I do, not saying its right or wrong, just my reasoning. Now I need someone to reason to me why its better to switch those percentages around.

By the way Im not doing too bad out of the blinds -16bb/100 for both which is not great but not as bad as ive seen other peoples, like its not disastrous. However my WR from the button is only 0.1bb/100 and thats over 2.5k hands from there which is extremely worrying. Also its 50bb/100 from the CO which is just weird. I know a total of 20k hands is not really a lot to judge but still these stats cant be tooooo far off my actual winrates right? Id love to hear what you guys have to say. Thanks
 
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Your blind lose rate(if i can call it like this :D) is good in my opinion.
You could pop up your 3bet in BTN to like 6-7%. Should be enough. You mentioned that youre feeling advantage over other players, so it shouldn't be a problem playing 3bet pots IP (even SPR is smaller). And if youre doing good so far, you shouldnt worry too much about your 3bet %.
 
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Yep, pretty much just experienced a standard micro player revelation 'Im 3betting too much in the blinds and not enough in position' and want some help trying to change my mindset so I can change that.

Basically my 3bet from the blinds is about 8% from sb and 6% from sb. Whereas my 3bet from other positions stretches from 2%-4% from EP to BTN. I know this is very low but I dont like to 3bet in position as I like to take a flop when in position as I think I have a better edge against micro players after the flop. I feel like if I 3bet my mediocre hands Ill be getting either folds or 4bets too often. I 3bet from the blinds more because of the opposite. I dont really want to take a flop out of position against a preflop raiser as unless hes a super weird or fishy player Ill just be c/f most flops and the ones I hit Id likely only get 1 street of value anyway so I prefer to try and end it pre.

Thats just my thinking behind why I play like I do, not saying its right or wrong, just my reasoning. Now I need someone to reason to me why its better to switch those percentages around.

By the way Im not doing too bad out of the blinds -16bb/100 for both which is not great but not as bad as ive seen other peoples, like its not disastrous. However my WR from the button is only 0.1bb/100 and thats over 2.5k hands from there which is extremely worrying. Also its 50bb/100 from the CO which is just weird. I know a total of 20k hands is not really a lot to judge but still these stats cant be tooooo far off my actual winrates right? Id love to hear what you guys have to say. Thanks
All of the 3-betting strategy is made mostly to combat regs and build yourself an image. Of course at micros if you have a big edge postflop against bad players it is better to take advantage of it. Pot control and value betting is the way to go. But at higher limits when the absolute fish are less and you find more TAGfish and more and more decent regs you need to have a decent 3-betting strategy or else you will break even or worse.
Even at micros a good 3-bet understanding adds you at least 1BB/100. Imagine that you can increase your winrate with at least 10% at micros. I think it is a lot.
 
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this is such a standard response but its too small of a sample to tell.

whats ur actual question about 3betting strategies from the blinds though?

fwiw i 3bet around 5-6% from btn and about 10% and 8% from sb and bb respectively. why? cause when ppl are positionally aware and open more hands OTB, we can 3bet more hands for value from the blinds
 
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why to 3 bet.you could almost 3bet to the Button.It is useful to others.
 
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