3bet calling ranges

hey guys, I had a nice discussion with a few friends on 3bet calling ranges and I am wondering what are yours and what do you think optimal calling ranges are.
I'm talking vs a 9%-15% 3bettor IP and OOP.
thanks in advance for any insight.
btw this is for 6max only as I dont know how to play FR

Big difference between 9 and 15. Also, what's his c-bet rate? Stack sizes? Oh man the variables go on, and on.

If I think a guy sucks post flop, I start calling fairly wide, and I rarely 4-bet. So in position that could be as wide as AQ, JJ+, KQ, AJ, KJ type stuff.

well In order to analyze we need to keep most variables constant and adjust 1 frequency right? controlled experimnents and such.
so we'll assume his cbet in position is 75% and his cbet oop is 60%. effective stack sizes 100BB. TAG playing 20\2.5 ATS 33\33\33 (co,btn,sb.)
If we take this same player across 25-100 NL and we give him increasingly 9% through 15% how does your calling range change IP OOP
I'd like to not incorporate 4betting ranges.

I think C9's point is that it's pretty futile trying to set up some kind of solid stat-dependent strategy here. Positional dynamic is going to play a big part here, as always with 3-bet/4-bet situations. It also very much depends on your 4-betting range. I mean aganist some opponents who 3-bet light but fold to 4-bets you're going to want to 4-bet your air light, whereas against the maniac guys who want to get AI with a wider range, you may want to 4-bet bluff and commit with AXs to give yourself more fold equity and pot equity. 3-bet sizing is also pretty important, these sizes will often vary depending on positional dynamic.

With no disrespect (and I might be wrong here), I honestly think that it's pretty futile attempting to devise some kind of pre-meditated reaction strategy, and that you'd be much better off just continuing to analyse these kind of situations you get into at the tables (HA forum, hand reviewing sessions with friends etc.). Once you've been doing this for a little while, you'll get a much better understanding of what kind of range you can carry on with for value in certain situations, and also the situations in which you want to be 4-betting light or for value, and the reasoning behind all of this. Maybe open your tracking software and filter for 3-bet pots and find a few hands where you're not sure about the best action, and post them. I think this would be a much better way of coming to understand the thought process that needs to happen in these situations.

I think discussing 3bet calling ranges is just fine. I find that there are some hands I don't fold often to 3bets, and a lot of them that I always fold. Devising "some kind of pre-meditated reaction strategy" is exactly how you should go about finding out which ones are "sometimes play" and which ones are "never play." I don't think Skaplun is saying to have a rigid never-to-be-deviated-from playbook, but having some idea of your default range helps tremendously. In fact, having a fixed range for calling 3bets IP and OOP (with maybe a few categories of opponents based on their 3bet ranges) is a LOT better than overadjusting and guessing.

One of the most common mistakes regs make vs me is adjusting according to what they think are the dynamics. I've had 3bets flatted by tight regs with 97o because they've seen me 3bet bullshit the orbit before. Me 3betting bullshit is not part of the "dynamics." It's part of my range. Someone who has a fixed range for calling in this spot shouldn't suddenly go and do something so silly as flatting 97o, because they have their hands and they can stick to them.