2NL Stats checkup

2NL Stats After 30,000 hands

Winnings: $62.60
$(EV adjusted): $67.79
bb/100: 10.35

VPIP: 18.4
PFR: 11.9

This is mainly due to flatting 22-88 pre aswell as hands like JTo on the BTN vs LAGs.


3-bet%: 3.2
vs 3bet call%: 55.2
4-Bet%: 1.3
Cold Call%: 12.1
Sqz%: 3.4
WTSD%: 33.3
W$SD%: 52.5
W$WSF: 39.4
Agg: 1.99
Agg%: 23.3
Flop Agg%: 25.6
Turn Agg%: 22.6
River Agg%: 19.3

Flop Cbet%: 48.5 Success%: 49.5
Turn Cbet%: 63.9 Success%: 36.5
River Cbet%: 57.9 Success%: 45.5

Flop Fold vs Cbet: 60.0
Flop vs Raise Fold%: 26.2

Steal%: 18.8

PFR by position:
EP: 15.0
MP: 16.1
CO: 18.4
BTN: 21.7
SB: 15.2

SB Reraise Steal: 3.6
BB Reraise Steal: 2.7
SB Fold to Steal: 84.8
BB Fold to Steal: 78.9

River Call Efficiency: 1.57

Thanks for any help

Is it FR?

6-max

18/11 is too much of a gap, try and make it more 20/16. You should be very loose on the CO/BTN especially.

3bet is too low.

Steal is too low.


Those are just a few things to start working on - loosen up and become more aggressive in position

Just my opinion mate, comparing with my own stats. It doesn't mean much really since my 6max stats are over 5.6K hands.

First thing that I notice is the difference between VPIP and PFR. It's really big. Even with the small pairs there I don't see how it can make that much of a difference. Small pairs are not 36% of the hands. I have a problem with being passive in the blinds, other times I'm a bit passive and don't 3bet in CO and BTN when I have a premium hand. I don't know, there's something there that doesn't add up.

Your positional stats are similar to mine, but it looks like you have a very narrow range in the BTN. Mine is much wider in the BTN so maybe I'm wrong. My blind steal is around 28%. That means a much wider BTN range.

And last but not least flop cbet%... mine is 68%. Reason is simple, I don't really cbet the board, I cbet the villain. If he folds often I cbet all day long, if he doesn't I cbet for value only. So if you are on very passive tables, probably cbet is ok, but appart from that cbet should be, imho, higher.

Take this lines with a huge grain of salt, you play longer than I do and with better results, just comparing stats really.

EDIT: x-posted with Pascal

Pascal LeFiscal said:

18/11 is too much of a gap, try and make it more 20/16. You should be very loose on the CO/BTN especially.

3bet is too low.

Steal is too low.


Those are just a few things to start working on - loosen up and become more aggressive in position

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Nitpicking but it's 18/12 . You're right on all points though, and they are the leaks I've already identified + resteals from the SB/BB. My style seems to be working as I'm top 30 on PTR for 6-max 2NL on Stars for this month, but could be much better

Just seen your BTN and CO opening - they need to be a lot wider. What's your open raise % from those positions?

And try not to be results orientated Anyway, there won't be many good players at 2NL because it's a pretty quick process to build a BR from 2NL -> 5NL and everyone moves ASAP because the rake is so high

I made a thread about struggling at 5NL. That's why I'm still donking around at 2NL, trying to build a large roll to move to 5NL, beat it and then get to 10NL+ as quickly as possible, I'll include my graph with EV and SD + NSD winnings

I meant with regard to being in the top 30 winners at 2NL or whatever

Here it is:
Running slightly below AIEV atm but doing ok.
Also, how do I widen my CO and BTN ranges while playing so many tables, I am pretty comfortable playing the same ranges as I do now as it means I don't play too many hands and still manage to make a reasonable hourly rate.

Comfortable = nitty

Try a session of just playing 6 tables where you open say 50% of the time from the button when it folds to you. Doesn't have to be the top 50% of hands, just try and do it around 50% of the time. See what you find out

FWIW I did used to play 4-6 tables and was playing around 26/22 and around 40% from the button, and had a better bb/100, it's just I make more per hour mass multitabling. But what you are saying is correct and good advice, so thanks Pascal.

ben_rhyno said:

FWIW I did used to play 4-6 tables and was playing around 26/22 and around 40% from the button, and had a better bb/100, it's just I make more per hour mass multitabling. But what you are saying is correct and good advice, so thanks Pascal.

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see, that is just it - you should be able to increase your range, whether drastically or one step at a time even while playing many tables. you may also make mistakes on those extra hands, but with the extra practice you are more likely to increase your winrate eventually.

in general, however, correct play should outweigh hourly winrate at these limits. once you add a zero or 2, start thinking waaay more about your hourly

ben_rhyno said:

FWIW I did used to play 4-6 tables and was playing around 26/22 and around 40% from the button, and had a better bb/100, it's just I make more per hour mass multitabling. But what you are saying is correct and good advice, so thanks Pascal.

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The goal is not to get the highest hourly at 2nl. The highest hourly at 2nl is the samy as a crap hourly at 10nl. You want to learn how to play optimally while at 2nl, so the mistakes are less costly now than later. If you keep thinking about 2nl hourly rates, you will never leave it.

Play 6 tables and carefully think about every single move you make, what you're opening vs who, how good is your bet sizing, what sort of range could the villain have? etc. Listen to what Pascal said about opening wide OTB, this is what makes a good 6max player because micro stakes players are for the mostpart completely positionally unaware.

18/12 is far too big a gap, and too nitty as well. In generaly if you want to play a pot you should be raising it preflop.

Aldito said:

The goal is not to get the highest hourly at 2nl. The highest hourly at 2nl is the samy as a crap hourly at 10nl. You want to learn how to play optimally while at 2nl, so the mistakes are less costly now than later. If you keep thinking about 2nl hourly rates, you will never leave it.

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With the exception of, when your game is good enough to easily beat 5NL/10NL/upwards and you just need to build a bankroll to get out fast enough to move up

I'd agree with Aldito tho and do some more work on your game before you try and move up.