My 2nl FR stats and graph.. How can I improve?

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Hey i've played 10k hands now of 2nl FR and i pretty much breaking even, but I know this limit I should be crushing. Here are my stats ...

This is my first post so if i shouldn't bother putting a certain stat or missed a stat i should put just tell me or if i put this post in the wrong place just tell me.
VPIP: 17.7 Total hands:10k bb/100: 3.77/100
PFR:12.2
3-Bet: 4.2
Agg:2.39
Agg:32.7%
WTSD:30.3%
W$SD%:48.6
Flop Agg:34.8%
Turn Agg: 33.3%
River Agg: 26.9%

Flop C-bet: 68.1% Success: 40.8%
Turn C-bet: 67.5% Success: 31.3%
River C-bet 55.3% Success: 52%
Flop fold vs C-bet: 59.2%
Flop call vs C-bet: 26.2%




Heres my graph.. http://postimage.org/image/i1giokeyv/ I feel like I get more bad beats then the average person.

I know all tables are different, I always wait to get the best tables with at least 40% per flop and high avg pot but what stats should i be looking to have in general. What are my leaks that I should be trying to plug? If you need more info just ask. I know 10k hands isn't that big but I still want to tips to improve my game. What's a good strategy to have against these weak players I always value bet and I rarely bluff. Usually on the flop if their passive in that spot i probably bet 50-66% of the pot. Most people say at this level their all fish but I disagree there is alot of nits too i find.

Also, I've been trying to work on my game i don't why I'm doing extremely well, I read lots of forum posts, I just ordered my first book on amazon theory of poker. Would that book be good for nl micro FR? It's theory so i assume it would be. What other books, threads or articles do you suggest I check out?

Thanks for the help it's really appreciated.
 
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I know 10k hands isn't that big but I still want to tips to improve my game.
You're right it's nothing.
I always value bet and I rarely bluff. Usually on the flop if their passive in that spot i probably bet 50-66% of the pot.
If you're only value betting, bet bigger. 75% to 100% of the pot. They'll still call with nearly the same frequency and you'll win bigger pots.

Beyond that with such a small sample I didn't even look at your stats and you really shouldn't either.
 
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Isn't 17% VPIP a bit high for FR? I'm unsure, I don't really play FR cash games but playing nearly 1 in 4 or 5 hands is a bit to much at the micros. Playing a tight game here is profitable. I can't really say anything else about the stats but maybe you're putting yourself in spots and betting in spots where you should be check/folding etc.

The best advice I can give you is too post some hands in the hand section, people will get an idea then of your play and tell you if you are playing the hand badly or not and if you can improve in certain spots.
 
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Yeah, seems like you should maybe come into pots a bit less with marginal holdings, when you're calling raises or limping in with KJo and such, don't. Getting rid of some of the marginal hands will bring your PFR closer to your VPIP which is what you want.
 
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Small sample but your turn cb is huge and you are not successful. You might be burning some money there. Try posting the screenshot of your stat table instead of writing it. Show it by position and stakes.

Bet big for value and small as bluff and dont bluff unless you know they can fold.

Dont be afraid to overbet with strong hands to get the stacks in if you think they will call.

Play tight and smart. Dont get tilted and spew.

Books i liked were Poker blueprint, small stakes nl holdem, fees guide to 6max. Also subscribing to DC or other sites will help if you are willing to pay a fee.
 
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Yeah, seems like you should maybe come into pots a bit less with marginal holdings, when you're calling raises or limping in with KJo and such, don't. Getting rid of some of the marginal hands will bring your PFR closer to your VPIP which is what you want.

Yeah I like to limp with suited connectors and pocket pairs because i find when you hit, you get paid off. Maybe i should try it less and tighten up.
 
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Small sample but your turn cb is huge and you are not successful. You might be burning some money there.

Yeah I think I'm losing alot of money from that, I find people fold often to a c-bet on the flop but when they do call alot of the times i just want to check/fold the turn but something urges me too try again. They almost almost always call I really have to fix it.
 
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Yeah I like to limp with suited connectors and pocket pairs because i find when you hit, you get paid off. Maybe i should try it less and tighten up.

maybe you shouldn't try it at all.

just don't limp, ever, lol.

big gap between your vpip and pfr, seems you're limping and calling too much.

and 17% vpip is a bit wide, tighten up more.. which will probably happen when you remove limping utg with suited connectors from your arsenal.

gl.
 
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maybe you shouldn't try it at all.

just don't limp, ever, lol

Yeah I know limping is bad but at 2nl people tend to over value their hand. I find they bet with mid or top pair so hitting a set i find pays off a lot. Maybe it's not worth it then i guess.
 
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Yeah I know limping is bad but at 2nl people tend to over value their hand. I find they bet with mid or top pair so hitting a set i find pays off a lot. Maybe it's not worth it then i guess.

this applies to everywhere at the micros.. but limping UTG is a leak regardless.

Set minings fine, but:

- if you're playing pots OOP then you can't maximise value when you hit

- and if a reg realises what you're doing then you're gonna get iso'ed a ****load and just leak money to them everytime you miss check/fold.

Just don't limp, makes your life a lot easier.
 
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this applies to everywhere at the micros.. but limping UTG is a leak regardless.

Set minings fine, but:

- if you're playing pots OOP then you can't maximise value when you hit

- and if a reg realises what you're doing then you're gonna get iso'ed a ****load and just leak money to them everytime you miss check/fold.

Just don't limp, makes your life a lot easier.

Alright good point I will try to limp less often. Thanks for the advice.
 
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I will just quickly put the stats that I think you should aim for in red. If I don't leave anything then I don't use that stat. Keep in mind that these are just numbers so don't get too bogged down on them. There are many different play styles that can win and it is not good to be constantly thinking about them while playing. So these are rough estimates of what I would recommend that newer players at NL2 full ring shoot for.

VPIP: 17.7 15
PFR:12.2 good
3-Bet: 4.2 3
Agg:2.39 3
Agg:32.7%
WTSD:30.3% 25
W$SD%:48.6 55
Flop Agg:34.8%
Turn Agg: 33.3%
River Agg: 26.9%

Flop C-bet: 68.1% good
Turn C-bet: 67.5% 35-40
River C-bet 55.3%
Flop fold vs C-bet: 59.2% 65-70
Flop call vs C-bet: 26.2%
 
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I will just quickly put the stats that I think you should aim for in red. If I don't leave anything then I don't use that stat. Keep in mind that these are just numbers so don't get too bogged down on them. There are many different play styles that can win and it is not good to be constantly thinking about them while playing. So these are rough estimates of what I would recommend that newer players at NL2 full ring shoot for.

Thanks a lot man, appreciate the help. Are these your stats or are they just good stats for micros?
 
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Thanks a lot man, appreciate the help. Are these your stats or are they just good stats for micros?

They are roughly the stats that I have used and had lots of success with at the micros while playing a lot of tables at once. I play more loose and aggressive when playing fewer tables but I would recommend newer players still stick to the above. These TAG (tight and aggressive) stats will keep you out of difficult spots and keep you focused on the fundamentals and learning how to win which are of prime importance for beginner and even novice players.
 
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