2NL biggest leak - raised pots. Need advice.

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Alright, so I started analyizing few of my hands today and play with pokertracker just to notice I have been losing most of my money in raise pots. Seems like a huge leak holding back my winrate. Am I 3betting to lightly? Advice is appreciated.
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You need to filter by your action. With no filter it includes when you fold to raise as BB and SB, and you should expect to lose on those hands.
 
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I use HM2

I'm always looking at the River Call Efficiency stat in the overall results tab. With a large sample, If it is between 1.00-1.20 that's ok; if its below 1.00 you might be calling to light on the river.

I know your stats are posted but what are you considerations for 3bettiing?

This is something I ask myself.
 
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You need to filter by your action. With no filter it includes when you fold to raise as BB and SB, and you should expect to lose on those hands.

I should filter it by VPIP? Sorry, pretty new to all this PT analysis and all, could be dumb questions.
 
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That would work.
If you want to get specific, then filter by any PF raise and then run it again with PF call.
 
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I use HM2

I'm always looking at the River Call Efficiency stat in the overall results tab. With a large sample, If it is between 1.00-1.20 that's ok; if its below 1.00 you might be calling to light on the river.

I know your stats are posted but what are you considerations for 3bettiing?

This is something I ask myself.

Considerations for 3betting - villains PFR, how my hand performs against that range. Position and his FCB.
 
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Thinking about it - you might want to exclude hands where you limped.
Instead of worrying about limp and VPIP - just run it for hands where you saw the flop.
 
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Thinking about it - you might want to exclude hands where you limped.
Instead of worrying about limp and VPIP - just run it for hands where you saw the flop.

It's all in the green then.
 
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I think it is normal to be slightly losing when facing one raiser because it counts the times we fold our blinds.

You are losing a little too much though but I would focus on extracting more value post flop more then anything.
 
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You're focusing on the wrong information. Any strong TAG reg with a VPIP/PFR/3bet of 20/18/8 is going to be losing money in "raised pots", since they'll be folding/3betting 98% of their hands and only flatting the other 2%. If they 3bet from the blinds and win, then the win doesn't go towards their "raised pots" wins, it goes towards their "3bet pots" wins.

Look at your overall win rate and your overall VPIP/PFR/3bet. Also, most money at these stakes is made postflop, so filter to look at your postflop wins/losses.
 
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Sounds like it takes a bit to get used to using the HUD's, but the information has to be very useful to have on hand. Especially if you can figure out how to find the information you want, useful post and replys Thanks.
 
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VPIP should be lower when facing action preflop compared to limped pots IMO. Need a stronger hand to call a PFR than you do to make a PFR. Although it is still normal to be losing facing a raiser, your is maybe just slightly above what it should be which is likely from calling too many hands. There's an article on it from twoplustwo, but I forget the name.
 
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