$2,700-1/2 roll... Buy-in strategy suggestions?

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Giving it a shot and moving to a/c with a $2,700 roll. I should mention my expenses would max be $900 and I get $820 in disability per month. I'm fairly comfortable buying in at $150 at 18 buy-ins and will probably do this, but was interested in what your opinions were and why. I also am considering $170 at 16buyins as I feel that extra $20 means alot at this buy in range, but also realize that's 2 whole buyins less from only 18 as it is. What would you do?

PS- I'll just move back home if I lose and rebuild, so I'm not that scared money.
 
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I would wait until I was able to afford to buy in for the max in the games I play.

Life rake will destroy you with that roll
 
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I could wait til august and ill have about $7,500. Maybe, I will... thanks.
 
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Why dont you start at the $50 mark.
Play for a month or so then see whats doing.
 
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Live poker I'm moving to a/c... I'm going to move and give it a shot. Like I said I have $820 coming in and my expenses are around $900, probably less. If I go bust I'll try it again in August, where I should have a $3500 roll. I'll buy in for $150.
 
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Play in tournaments to the size of your bankroll . I tried to play the stakes are not corresponding to the size of my bankroll. nothing good came of it
 
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Been seeing a/c on several threads before, but never knew what it was. What's a/c??

I recommend having a good enough bankroll to buy-in full. Buying in not full cuts your winrate, and you win less money from people who can't fold TPNK, TPDK, one pair hands, FDs, OESDs, etc.
 
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TPNK
TPDK
FDs
OESDs
etc.

please elaborate

Spades, If you are planning on playing 1/2 live games No Limit then my suggestion would be 2,700$ as a bankroll is enough. Not sure what the disability and expenses have to do with Poker, but I'm sure you want to win live on a constant basis.

This is what I would recommend.

Buy in for 100-200 on a 1/2 live table. Play a tight game, do not call large bets unless, you feel very certain that you are in the lead. Trust me the money can go fast in a 1/2 table. Remember if he bets heavy on the flop, he/she will more then likely bet twice as heavy on the turn and so on. A lot of your money goes fast on a table like that and trying to score a draw or playing a middle pair.

As a matter a fact, it is probably worth always folding middle pair on the flop. Especially when you are up against several opponents in a flop.

The number one rule is not over exhausting yourself by playing to long. The number two rule is do not ever play on tilt. Money goes by fast once your on tilt. Only play well in the best feeling and mood at optimal performance. If you lose your buy-in the best thing you can do is walk off and wait until tomorrow. Poker requires studying. Play a nice slow game. Play strong hands. Do not let people draw out on you with a strong hand. You will be okay, i think if you follow that. Good luck at the tables.
 
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Giving it a shot and moving to a/c with a $2,700 roll. I should mention my expenses would max be $900 and I get $820 in disability per month. I'm fairly comfortable buying in at $150 at 18 buy-ins and will probably do this, but was interested in what your opinions were and why. I also am considering $170 at 16buyins as I feel that extra $20 means alot at this buy in range, but also realize that's 2 whole buyins less from only 18 as it is. What would you do?

PS- I'll just move back home if I lose and rebuild, so I'm not that scared money.

This is a disaster in the making tbh. A few things about playing for income:

- You need to be playing with 100bb, especially at the 1/2 level where rake is brutal. You should never be playing short stacked; it'll sink your win rate dramatically

- It's widely recommended to have 6 months of living expenses + 50 buy ins saved up before you start playing for a living. You're going to have downswings you didn't even know were possible.

- What are your current results/win rate? It takes a large sample size to know how successful you can be. If you don't have 1.5k hours (others recommend 2k) or more with a comfortable win rate, you don't know how much you will win (or lose).

To expand on one of the points above, $2700 is definitely not even close to enough if you're going to be using that money in any capacity. You're going to have losing weeks and months no matter how well you play, so $2700 is really pushing it. At best you'll be living "paycheck to paycheck."
 
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Giving it a shot and moving to a/c with a $2,700 roll. I should mention my expenses would max be $900 and I get $820 in disability per month. I'm fairly comfortable buying in at $150 at 18 buy-ins and will probably do this, but was interested in what your opinions were and why. I also am considering $170 at 16buyins as I feel that extra $20 means alot at this buy in range, but also realize that's 2 whole buyins less from only 18 as it is. What would you do?

PS- I'll just move back home if I lose and rebuild, so I'm not that scared money.

1st, no matter your situation, your BR is your poker money and MUST be kept totally separate from life's living expenses. Without this, you have zero chance of success, nobody does.

2nd, Never buy into a 1/2 NL game for less than $200 and a minimum of at least one extra bullet in your pocket. (I always take 2 bullets)( Never take your entire roll to the casino )

If you can wrap your mind around those 2 Gospels and know them as your new religion, you have a shot.

The rest depends on your skills.

GL:deal:
 
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2nd, Never buy into a 1/2 NL game for less than $200 and a minimum of at least one extra bullet in your pocket. (I always take 2 bullets)( Never take your entire roll to the casino

Sort of agree. But if you're playing for income you should be prepared to max buy in as many times as you need to. Volume is what matters, and you'll never get it if you leave every time you bust two buyins.
 
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Sort of agree. But if you're playing for income you should be prepared to max buy in as many times as you need to. Volume is what matters, and you'll never get it if you leave every time you bust two buyins.


I take 10 bills when I play. max BI for the 1/2NL tables is $300. And I always buy in for max.
 
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I wasn't really directing that post towards you. Sounds like OP wants to make poker is main source of income.
 
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Thanks for replies... I've decided to play the 1/1 game at ballys, 50-150 buyin. Like I said I get disability so wouldn't have to worry about living expenses. Roll should be closer to $2,500 though. 25 buyins of $100. I'm guessing a win rate at this 1/1 game I should be shooting g or is $10/hour and be satisfied with $7.50/hour. Does this sound right? Preflop raises are around 7-10.
 
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Also debating taking a 5 buyin shot at 1/2 of $200, if it doesnt workout I'd still have 15, 100bb buyins at the 1/1 game. I think this makes the most sense for me, but value your advice if you were in my position. Not sure if i mentioned this, but i could move back home if I fail, no problem.
 
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Now that I'm thinking about it though, I'm probably better off just playing the 1/1 game and taking it slow. I love poker and risking my roll at 1/2 even if I feel very competent at those stakes isn't worth it as keeping the big picture in mind and just enjoying playing without too much bankroll worries at the 1/1 game appeals probably more so. That being said, hopefully $10/hour isn't that much of a reach at this stake.
 
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Thanks for replies... I've decided to play the 1/1 game at ballys, 50-150 buyin. Like I said I get disability so wouldn't have to worry about living expenses. Roll should be closer to $2,500 though. 25 buyins of $100. I'm guessing a win rate at this 1/1 game I should be shooting g or is $10/hour and be satisfied with $7.50/hour. Does this sound right? Preflop raises are around 7-10.

If your talking about a Limit game I recommend you don't. If your going to give it a go, give it a go with NL.
 
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I've never played 1/1, but unless it's really spewy and ridiculous I wouldn't count on anything higher than $4-5/hour if that. Rake is probably absurd and you'll likely be playing against short stacks a ton.
 
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tite be very early in the tournament and when you have the power of the chips aggressive play using the position of the table, taking into account the style of the opponent and the amount of the same chips
 
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I've never played 1/1, but unless it's really spewy and ridiculous I wouldn't count on anything higher than $4-5/hour if that. Rake is probably absurd and you'll likely be playing against short stacks a ton.

Can you explain your logic? $2 vs $3 in pot preflop and avg. raise like I said previously is $7-$10, most 1/2 raises pre are I'd say $9-$14 maybe. I am very confident playing 1/2 and would say my hourly there is at the very least $15. The stack ratio is only $50-$150 so playing against short stacks isn't the same as at other limits.
 
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Spades, how long have you been playing? Have any decent results live or online?
 
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