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I have recently started playing a bit of this, mainly FL but i am debating playing NL as its more skillfull and surely there is more money to be won. Does anyone on here play it and if so do they have any tricks or tips for me. Is FL softer than NL etc? I have pretty limited knowledge and I am looking to get an edge to help me be profitable as I start to learn it
 
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i would play limit as a beginner just to get your feet wet and a feel for the game but then i would switch to NL/PL. big swings in this game so be prepared. when you switch to NL, your going to have to be more selective. don't draw against a pat hand in NL/PL. hand selection and how/what to draw are important but the most important aspect of this game is position. seeing how many cards a player is drawing before you act is crucial information.
super system I/II has a section on this game. other than that you will find little information on this game.
 
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Ye ive played a little bit on stars (limit), I already understand the importance of position having only played maybe 100 - 200 hands.
Any ways of quickly spotting fish, bar the fact they will draw for loads of cards and play way to many hands. (EG open limping etc)
Like in Hold em and PLO i should always be raising when being first into the pot, correct? Or does this differ.
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i always enter for a raise. just be more selective in NL. you can muck many good 2 card draws in NL and still show a solid profit. OTB in an unopened pot you should play everything you normally would play in limit. in MP i would be much more selective. hands that can't make the nuts can get you in-trouble. 267 is junk in NL. i would play it only in an unopened pot from LP. in a 5-6 handed game UTG i'm open folding 267 in NL/PL.
 
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Any ways of quickly spotting fish, bar the fact they will draw for loads of cards and play way to many hands. (EG open limping etc)

look at what they end up with at showdown. any player that routinely plays a hand without a deuce is going to be easy money.
if they played a 2 card draw OOP and end up with something like 24678 then they are a fish. he either had 267, 248, 246 or worse from the start. all very rough hands to play OOP.
any player that routinely draws 2 OOP and ends up with a rough 8 (xx678) you can label them a fish.
 
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So you shouldn't really be getting to the river with 8 high to often, or specifically xx 6 7 8
 
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So you shouldn't really be getting to the river with 8 high to often, or specifically xx 6 7 8

not OOP. if you have position then you can play more rough hands but OOP anyone showing up with a rough 8 is playing too loose.
especially for NL/PL.
 
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Ok, nice one, when i've played a bit more i'll probably have a few more questions but thanks for the help for now :)

Oop should you be starting with at least 3 strong cards? or does it need to be 4? generally speaking i should be drawing to 1 card on each street? rather than starting with lie 237TJ and drawing 2
 
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1 card draws don't happen often enough, the blinds will eat you up (in limit) if you don't play your 2 card draws. 237 is a great hand to play from any position. any 2 card draw that can make the nuts (and has a deuce) is playable from any position.

in NL/PL the blinds don't eat away as much so you can fold some 2 card draws. but 237 is way too strong and i would play it from any position. just be willing to fold if we don't improve.
 
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if they played a 2 card draw OOP and end up with something like 24678 then they are a fish. he either had 267, 248, 246 or worse from the start. all very rough hands to play OOP.
any player that routinely draws 2 OOP and ends up with a rough 8 (xx678) you can label them a fish.

i forgot to add one, 247... if they drew 2 and show up with a rough 8 OOP then it's possible they had 247. so you need to see them show up with a rough 8 OOP at least twice. or use other info to conclude they are a fish.
the more often they show up with a rough 8, the more likely they are playing trash hands.
 
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I have recently started playing a bit of this, mainly FL but i am debating playing NL as its more skillfull and surely there is more money to be won. Does anyone on here play it and if so do they have any tricks or tips for me. Is FL softer than NL etc? I have pretty limited knowledge and I am looking to get an edge to help me be profitable as I start to learn it
Do people even play no limit triple draw?

I wrote something a while back.

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/learning-poker-57/not-book-2-7-triple-draw-193376/
 
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Do people even play no limit triple draw?

pokerstars is only place that i know of that offers NL27TD. (haven't played there since BF so not sure if it is still offered) if you can learn how to play short handed then you can always get a game. you just need to be willing to start a new table.
some of the best triple draw games i have played were HU.


cool guide. i think i play a tad bit tighter on the BTN than you. rarely do i play hands like 4678/4578. i will open with a 4 card draw HU with a 2 though.
 
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i think i play a tad bit tighter on the BTN than you. rarely do i play hands like 4678/4578. i will open with a 4 card draw HU with a 2 though.
In position, the value of rough pat hands increases drastically. And when you draw one, you're going to have more FE earlier in the hand. Plus when you draw four (or even three) opponents will pretty much see a showdown against you, forcing you to make a hand. So thats why Id play a super ugly 1 card draw in position but fold the bad three card draws.

Also, the guide was roughly based on the deuce chapter in super system 2.

I always knew stars spread no limit single draw games, but no limit triple draw seems as crazy as no limit Stud 8.
 
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when you draw one, you're going to have more FE earlier in the hand. Plus when you draw four (or even three) opponents will pretty much see a showdown against you, forcing you to make a hand.

good point but i still play a 2 against the right opponent HU.

I always knew stars spread no limit single draw games, but no limit triple draw seems as crazy as no limit Stud 8.

i won't play limit triple draw. it's way too tough to beat. (edit: at stakes worth playing)
NL/PL is the only way to play this game imo.
 
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Idk, I found it pretty soft, especially in 8 game. But I played nothing but limit games for a solid two years, so maybe I was justed used to what 1 big bet per 100 feels like. I will say the variance of FL deuce is much higher than most limit games.
 
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Thanks for the input and will give your thread a good look tommorow, and ill post on here again when ive had a chance to play some more 2 - 7 TD
 
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