10NL session

hey guys. i love playing 10NL as of late and could use some help with some hands. ill post one for now but there will be more later on. I love cash games and i find that i am either red hot or not doing well at all. serious lack of consistency so i am hoping with your help i can hope to find my leaks. i am skeptical of my bet sizing...

SB (ME): $7.75
CO: $9.04

I get dealt J,9 of clubs. folds to cut off who has been a bit of a loose cannon. he raises to $.30. button folds, i call, bb folds.

flop: Tc, Jh, 8h

i bet $.45. he calls.

turn: Jd

i check. He has a habit of representing big hands when they show up and since i had the big hand i figured id attempt to trap him.

he bet $.80 and i tank call showing weakness.

river: 5s

perfect card im thinking. doesnt change anything. i check again having a good feeling that he will assume i missed the flush draw and bet at it like h has the J.

he bets $.50

clearly a small stab at the pot so im thinking i have to raise here not too big so he will still call.

i reraise $1.10..... he folds

I think your line is fine, he probably had air on the river and was not putting another cent in, you probably got max value.

Not even going to read any more after pre flop.

Fold this pre in the sb, never complete here.

#Position is everything

no i agree with normally folding here but table was getting tight and i think was at 18% to the flop 6 handed. this guy was raising preflop almost every hand when folded to him or limped to him. i saw him 3 or 4 hands before this one raise preflop to $.45 and then bet $1.50 on the flop of k,10,3 rainbow and checking down on turn and bet half pot on river to win a pot with 6,5o hitting a 5 on the river. he was acting quite loose and felt i could outplay him postflop which is why i called. plus i had to put in $.20 more into a .$45 pot to see a flop that could win 50% of the time. decent pot odds

starting_at_the_bottom said:

Not even going to read any more after pre flop.

Fold this pre in the sb, never complete here.

#Position is everything

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Damn, you really are a nit mate

I don't mind the act of defending your blind from a potential steal attempt with a hand that has decent equity like J9s. Its a hand that can hit the flop hard or miss totally and have an easy fold. Plus you give more of a "Don't **** with my blinds" image which is not bad to have.

I think too that u did get the max profit from ur opponent hand he has pretty much nothing more than air...

IPlay said:

Damn, you really are a nit mate

I don't mind the act of defending your blind from a potential steal attempt with a hand that has decent equity like J9s. Its a hand that can hit the flop hard or miss totally and have an easy fold. Plus you give more of a "Don't **** with my blinds" image which is not bad to have.

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I agree pretty much with IPlay +1 for playing this type of hands on SB

Pre flop aside, if villain is a loose cannon as you claim, rather than a thinking LAG. Why are we donking out?

starting_at_the_bottom said:

Pre flop aside, if villain is a loose cannon as you claim, rather than a thinking LAG. Why are we donking out?

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Would be risky to check and let villian have a chance at a free card on a board that wet. If villian Semibluffs and fires all three barrels, how much do we like J9 now?

I do agree that checking would not be awful and I would of probably donked on a board that wet too with a made hand.

my theory in betting on that flop was that if he was going to chase the flush draw, which is always a possibility, i was going to make him pay for it. if he misses then i get paid and if he hits then i can adjust and depending on his play i can easily fold. maybe not real easy but justifiable

next hand.. this one is a little more straight forward and im 50/50 with this.

UTG (Me) $11.08
UTG +1 $8.17
CO $5.60

i was dealt q,q. i raise to $.40. UTG+1 calls. CO reraises to $3.00. i call. UTG+1 goes all in for $8.17. CO calls for his $5.60 and i call the all in of $8.17

me: Qd,Qs
UTG+1: j,5 of clubs
CO: Ah,As

board: Ac, Qc, 5d, 8s, 10c

is it really that horrible to call all in when one of them has to have an ace if not k,k or a,a but with q,q can it really be that easy of a fold

3/4/5 bets all in.. I would be worried to call the 2 AI's.. I don't play 10NL yet but man one of them surely has to have AA or KK...

yeah i thought the same but called anyways for what i perceived to be not the worst gamble i have made. just wanted to see if it was an OBVIOUS fold that i could have avoided losing $8

dad2adrina said:

next hand.. this one is a little more straight forward and im 50/50 with this.

UTG (Me) $11.08
UTG +1 $8.17
CO $5.60

i was dealt q,q. i raise to $.40. UTG+1 calls. CO reraises to $3.00. i call. UTG+1 goes all in for $8.17. CO calls for his $5.60 and i call the all in of $8.17

me: Qd,Qs
UTG+1: j,5 of clubs
CO: Ah,As

board: Ac, Qc, 5d, 8s, 10c

is it really that horrible to call all in when one of them has to have an ace if not k,k or a,a but with q,q can it really be that easy of a fold

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A bit hard to decide without any background, as you say though, its 50/50.

Obv call vs spewtards and probable fold vs nits. But vs in between okish regs its often a coin flop. albeit vs one all in and a 3.00 bet thats almost always going to call, I would err towards fold.

I would have to agree with folding on that one. I like to gamble more in tournaments than in cash games personally. It was a coin flip but I would err on the side of caution in a situation like that. I mean if the A would not have come on the flop and since you did hit the q to give you the set then in that situation you would of made a decent profit right away.

So just a quick update. I am at $227 and have been crushing it. I realize that rungood only lasts for so long so i am a tad skeptical to take a shot at 25NL. Is there any ideas as to a goal for where your BR should be at before taking a shot. I know BR rules of 30-50 buy ins but im looking for a calculated risk

What is your purpose for wanting to step it up to 25NL? If it is to make more money you should take your "calculated risk" money and spread it to multiple tables.
Start with 2-3 tables at once and slowly try to get to where you are playing 4-5 tables at once.

In the meantime practice removing leaks from your game whenever you can.
Hone your skills at multiple 10NL games and you should see a subtle rise in your hourly take vs. hoping to hit it big with BIG sessions on BIGGER tables.

Bigger tables have better players (not a little better, a LOT) and richer fish (guys who play poorly or just for fun but sit on thousands of dollars so it just doesn't matter to them to chase two streets for example). That is not really a good formula for you my friend. Until your bankroll supports the swings of winning/LOSING hundreds of dollars in a session I would not take a jump.

dad2adrina said:

I love cash games and i find that i am either red hot or not doing well at all. serious lack of consistency so i am hoping with your help i can hope to find my leaks.

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Your next step is to play multi-table until your brain goes on auto-pilot.

Soon you will be folding pocket queens OOP on one table so that you can focus on 67c on the button on another table. When that day comes, I say you are ready. :bom:

Ready to lose big.

Yeah i think that will be my next step is multitable. I am going to move to 2 table 10NL

Hand 1 is ok, based on your reads.

Hands 2 is a clear fold pre flop. (after the BIG reraise) QQ is not AA or KK

Your line is fine for me and milk the maximum value of your hand. I just have question on the flop though. Our hand is so strong that betting might make him run if he has nothing. I think Ill just check here and let him lead.

hand 1. You guys have it all wrong, and flat calling in SB or min raising with J9 is a common leak which will cost you a lot of money in the future, we bet out like we have aces here.

Pre if you see someone opening a lot in late position and you want to exploit... You simply 3bet light, a lot of times he could fold and if he's a loose cannon he will call and we have a great hand with some decent potential.

Flop comes out juicy as ever...
We don't simply limp here, we simply raise 3/4 of the pot to pot size we have an awesome flop a straight draw top pair and we are now betting for value where pre we were bluffing.

Also if we do catch him with AA or KK he won't let it go and this hand should play itself and you'll gain everything out of it and much more. If he folds well you've simply gained more than you did when he folds on the river without and not as much risk. Also if we do end up losing the hand or forced to fold out on later streets we will get more action on our prem hands which is what we want

Anyways good luck.


Hand 2: I'd have to raise all-in no matter the amount of money i got on the table. But i don't play with any fear at all and leaving ppl wondering WTF!



When i play 6nl and 6tables I have had varience of greater than $70 and managed to bring it back. So playing 25nl would be out of the question until you can cope with a 300+ swing. But if your only playing 1 table then you should be alright with 50-100 varience only... downswings/upswings happen all the time and if your not use to losing bigger amounts of money then it's bankroll suicide until you can mentally cope on decent losses especially at 25nl