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Hey dudes,

So I recorded a vid of me playing last night, would appreciate some feedback, part 1 has some sort of zoom thing turned on but should be fixed in part 2.

First time for ages putting a vid up so still unsure of good settings etc, hopefully quality is good.

http://youtu.be/1fVlrwjUarE

http://youtu.be/kc-pEuv6-mg
 
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Have no clue how to embed these ffs
 
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cool vid cant give you no feedback cuz im a noob but iono how u get so many good starting hands lol gg
 
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Just watched your vids, good job Peelo i'm not a 6 max player so won't comment on plays but you were correct when you raised your Sb with kk oop big pre , i would have prob played the JJ diff in vid #1.

and im still :D at your comment "Did we just %^&* split that pot"
 
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Was that the JJ were an A flops and then another on the turn and I fold to a barrel?

What would you do differently? If it is that one then I agree it looks quite weak looking at it now lol
 
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ill try and watch it tomorrow, i keep forgetting about these vids!
 
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Cheers man, thought it'd get more love tbh!
 
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Cheers man, thought it'd get more love tbh!
 
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subbing so I don't forget to watch.
 
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Me too, I'll get to it later today once I've finished pimping my HUD.
 
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Watching now with my pen and paper, you better play good cause im sick of writing already today :)
 
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Sweeeeeeeet :) looking forward to it :)
 
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Hmm dont think a ton of spots came up really, quite a number of the tables looked rubbish for you though, like not very many fish or not to your right.

JJ at 4 mins, hmm its an obvious part of our range and he's probably gonna fire 100% of cbets on that board if he tends to cbet in 3bet pots which i think he did so i dont mind calling one like you did, I might be able to fold if we knew he liked 3betting Ax's or if we knew he had hit by his bet sizing (it was quite a big c-bet)

4.50, u ask if 99 is good to 3bet for value, i'd say no. 99 plays bad OOP and his calling range is gonna have all sorts of broadways and unless we hit a set it'll be real tricky to play.

10.30, you folded TT, looks good.

vid 2

4.38, Not sure i like the squeeze against the guy calling 50% of 3bets, he looked just a bit too tight and although we have a blocker etc i think if we make TP we're gonna lose a lot of money when he calls with better aces as we have no control in pot size being OOP, hence why it'd be better 3betting Axs IP as when we do hit the A we can control the pot instead, so maybe im just being nit picky and its an okay 3bet but i dunno, he is really nitty and maybe a hand like 78s would be better, but its probably not terrible.

I couldnt really think of much else, dont bother calling fancy hands like 68s in the sb or whatever, doubt that's ever gonna be +EV

Hmm.. calling pocket pairs in the blinds is a tricky one, small ones should probably just be folded against most regs as they play shit and we dont have the implied odds to take stacks when we hit a set, may be able to 3bet them sometimes but there is probably better hands for that again

I think you'd get better feedback just posting lots of winning and losing hands that arent totally obvious, with hud stats for the guys involved.

again make sure theres always fish to ure right, quite a few of them tables looked no fun for us!

Well generally looks good suppose we werent gonna find 100's of spots in 30 mins anyways!
 
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Only had time to watch video one so far.

Video #1:-

0:00 bottom left, call 44 in SB vs a BTN steal. He's opening more than 30% from the BTN I would think (looking at your stats), which means calling to setmine alone is not a good idea (although I know you already know this!). You say you don't know about set mining OOP in 6max. I would say it's the same as FR. You need to be setmining someone with a strong range who will also likely be bad postflop, and multiway is even better.

2:00 top left, you look at fold to 4bet stats like they might be meaningful over a sample size of 1. Again, I know you know this, so I don't understand why you were even bothering to look. Having said that, I like the 4bet here, because he's likely light BvB given his reaction to steals is fold or 3bet, with a 3bet % that is beginning to look out of line in this spot.

2:00 bottom left, yeah open minraise BTN with shorty in blinds. I also do this vs tight regs too. You could have also considered mucking 98o, but nah, I think stealing with it is OK. So forget that last bit lol

3:00 top middle, JJ calling 3bet IP, fine. Again, not much to go on (he has flop cbet in 3bet pots 3/4), but we can guess when he fires turn (almost putting himself all in) that we need to fold despite the second ace reducing his chances of having an ace himself.

4:40 top right, 99 in SB vs CO, this could have been a 3bet considering he's wide and doesn't seem to be folding. Calling is an option too depending on how he plays post. This is fine imo, especially since you flop so well :)
Calling his cbet is pretty obv, and you could have considered leading turn.

next hand top right, you have QTo OTB and you open fold. You opened 98o earlier for a steal, but folded QTo here? Did you have a particular reason? I tend to open any 2 broadways OTB.

6:20 bottom right, agree, K3s is a open OTB.

6:50 top middle with 83s OOP vs limper, I would stab half pot, cos we have flopped a pair.

Same time, top left, 44 in SB with an open from a tight player in the CO and a call OTB. Seems like an OK spot for a flat call to spike your set.

7:00 bottom left, you raise AKs to 6bbs because you're OOP vs a limper. Nice. However, I wouldn't vary our bet sizing as a function of our hand strength vs regs. They will catch on.

8:10 top middle, getting it in BvB with AJs against a terrible half stack seems like a good idea to me. Awesome result haha

10:20 top left we opened TT and are now facing a 'squeeze' from the SB. Nice fold. We don't have many hands on him, but he looks to be shaping up as tight. As such he is most likely super value weighted and our TT is therefore most likely crushed.

12:10 top middle, calling with 86s in the SB? I know it was an overcall with 2 other players in, but still... seems a bit of a speculative call at best. Ah, you've just said the same thing yourself.

13:00 bottom middle, with the FD + BDSD I lead this limped pot 100%, and look at that beautiful barrelling card that comes off on the turn! Caution; this can lead to spew :D


Peelie, come back with comments on my (our) comments, in case you disagree or w/e. I also might have fked up some of it cos I was playing a donkament at the same time.
 
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Ummm, will try and get back on comments during today, if not, it will be the first thing I do before my session tonight.

Thanks dudes, looks to be very helpful! :)
 
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Flicked through vid 2, and didn't see too much there, but I do have a general point.

I noticed you considering (and actually) opening some real shit from the SB across both vids, and if anything I would be tighter here than in the CO, but of course it's villain dependant as per usual.

I told you I was pimping my HUD, and one thing I think you might benefit from is adding to your steal pop up the specific BvB stats.

There are some people who will fold at the same rate to a steal from the SB as from the BTN, in which case, carry on raising your shit from the SB. Insta profit. If they defend with 3betting then act accordingly, same if they flat. You get the picture. It's better to look at that specific spot (BvB) rather than general stats for how much they 3bet/fold/call from the BB, because some regs behave very differently to opens from the SB vs BTN when they are in the BB (as they should).
 
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JJ at 4 mins, hmm its an obvious part of our range and he's probably gonna fire 100% of cbets on that board if he tends to cbet in 3bet pots which i think he did so i dont mind calling one like you did, I might be able to fold if we knew he liked 3betting Ax's or if we knew he had hit by his bet sizing (it was quite a big c-bet)

4.50, u ask if 99 is good to 3bet for value, i'd say no. 99 plays bad OOP and his calling range is gonna have all sorts of broadways and unless we hit a set it'll be real tricky to play.

Yeah i kinda think the same thing, i just hate flatting opens oop in the blinds, but 99 is obv to good to fold there, just hate playing it OOP without initiative maybe


vid 2

4.38, Not sure i like the squeeze against the guy calling 50% of 3bets, he looked just a bit too tight and although we have a blocker etc i think if we make TP we're gonna lose a lot of money when he calls with better aces as we have no control in pot size being OOP, hence why it'd be better 3betting Axs IP as when we do hit the A we can control the pot instead, so maybe im just being nit picky and its an okay 3bet but i dunno, he is really nitty and maybe a hand like 78s would be better, but its probably not terrible.

Yeah i think i realised this almost straight away lol his stl% isnt very high so doubt he's playing good pos aware poker, this is a strong hand almost always, and the odd time its not we're dominated or getting pwned oop

Only had time to watch video one so far.

Video #1:-

0:00 bottom left, call 44 in SB vs a BTN steal. He's opening more than 30% from the BTN I would think (looking at your stats), which means calling to setmine alone is not a good idea (although I know you already know this!). You say you don't know about set mining OOP in 6max. I would say it's the same as FR. You need to be setmining someone with a strong range who will also likely be bad postflop, and multiway is even better.

Agreed, need to just start dumping small PP's in the blinds vs a steal, unless villain folds to 3bets a stupid amount i guess

2:00 top left, you look at fold to 4bet stats like they might be meaningful over a sample size of 1. Again, I know you know this, so I don't understand why you were even bothering to look. Having said that, I like the 4bet here, because he's likely light BvB given his reaction to steals is fold or 3bet, with a 3bet % that is beginning to look out of line in this spot.

Yeah totally, just lol'd at that, need to pay attention to sample sizes lol, think there might be a way to hide a stat until x number of hands, might look into that so i'm not using stats that mean nothing......or just pay attention!

2:00 bottom left, yeah open minraise BTN with shorty in blinds. I also do this vs tight regs too. You could have also considered mucking 98o, but nah, I think stealing with it is OK. So forget that last bit lol

Never though about raising smaller vs tight regs before, as long as they have no tricky bone in their body then yeah i agree, but yeah def knew straight away I had to raise smaller than in future, sucks that i didnt notice before I opened, but I realised so all is not lost lol

4:40 top right, 99 in SB vs CO, this could have been a 3bet considering he's wide and doesn't seem to be folding. Calling is an option too depending on how he plays post. This is fine imo, especially since you flop so well :)
Calling his cbet is pretty obv, and you could have considered leading turn.

Yeah its his f3bet of like 57% that made me think 3betting was an option there, pretty happy though with how i played it looking back

next hand top right, you have QTo OTB and you open fold. You opened 98o earlier for a steal, but folded QTo here? Did you have a particular reason? I tend to open any 2 broadways OTB.

Can't think of a solid 100% reason looking now but im guessing it had something to do with the blinds folding to steals of like 70% with the SB 3betting a fair bit too, thought it might just be better to dump it i guess

Same time, top left, 44 in SB with an open from a tight player in the CO and a call OTB. Seems like an OK spot for a flat call to spike your set.

7:00 bottom left, you raise AKs to 6bbs because you're OOP vs a limper. Nice. However, I wouldn't vary our bet sizing as a function of our hand strength vs regs. They will catch on.

Yeah its not so much to do with hands strenght there, if i was gonna iso with like 99 or TT, or AT+ i'm iso'ing to 6bb there everytime, standard open of 40c +10c for the limper and an extra 10c for being oop

10:20 top left we opened TT and are now facing a 'squeeze' from the SB. Nice fold. We don't have many hands on him, but he looks to be shaping up as tight. As such he is most likely super value weighted and our TT is therefore most likely crushed.

ty, ty :)

13:00 bottom middle, with the FD + BDSD I lead this limped pot 100%, and look at that beautiful barrelling card that comes off on the turn! Caution; this can lead to spew :D

haha, yeah i can see why leading there isnt bad, it being limped n all


Peelie, come back with comments on my (our) comments, in case you disagree or w/e. I also might have fked up some of it cos I was playing a donkament at the same time.

I noticed you considering (and actually) opening some real shit from the SB across both vids, and if anything I would be tighter here than in the CO, but of course it's villain dependant as per usual.

I told you I was pimping my HUD, and one thing I think you might benefit from is adding to your steal pop up the specific BvB stats.

There are some people who will fold at the same rate to a steal from the SB as from the BTN, in which case, carry on raising your shit from the SB. Insta profit. If they defend with 3betting then act accordingly, same if they flat. You get the picture. It's better to look at that specific spot (BvB) rather than general stats for how much they 3bet/fold/call from the BB, because some regs behave very differently to opens from the SB vs BTN when they are in the BB (as they should).

This is a really good point, gonna def add those stats i think as it makes perfect sense


Thanks for the comments guys, generally agree with all of them, the extra stats are an awesome idea imo.

Comments in bold.....obv lol
 
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Yeah, not saying it's perfect, but this is what I use at the moment for my steal popup:-

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lookin good man, def stealing that!
 
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Yeah, not saying it's perfect, but this is what I use at the moment for my steal popup:-

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**** knows how to set all this up btw, did u find a guide somewhere or what??
 
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It's HM2. Next time I catch you in chat we'll go through it if you like.
 
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Here you go mate. Apologies in advance for general confusion and croaky voice, I made this first thing this morning, but it should put you on the right track.

Watch in 720 HD to be able to see the detail.

 
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Sorry Peeleo, no time to watch, but am subscribing, and since I am a donk, dont know how much you want my critiques anyway..lol

Gotta check out your vid as well Niel, but I still have HEM 1.

(I did watch the beginning of both so I know what you guys sound like now.)
 
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