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Are downswings like these a common occurence in micro cash games? Most of them caused from cooler situations, like overpair v overpair or set over set, some by bad beats and roughly 2-3 because of tilt, probably. When I used to play micro turbo sng, I know 20 buyin downswings were normal. Are 2 dowswings of this magnitude over 2 weeks (overall I am break even now) normal or there could be something more than variance beating me?
 
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Is it 6max or Full ring?

Are you getting involved in pots with decent starting hands?

Are you betting and protecting your good hands to give incorrect odds for villains to call or are you betting too small or not at all and giving away cheap/free cards on turns and rivers?

Are you value betting your good hands but knowing to get out of the way to a shove raise on a dangerous board?

Asking myself these questions has helped me immensely after a beat or downswing. And honestly just in general in improving my game.

I don't think I'd worry about set over sets because they happen and you;'re going to lose stacks here and that's ok. But with overpair situations if you have say AJ and the board gives you a J but there's a K there and someone is betting into you consider yourself beat in most cases and fold unless you have some outs through draws (i.e. you have AdJd and board is Kd5d10s or something).

Not saying these aren't all coolers, I once lost 5 in a row to same guy who I was ahead of every time and still lost in a full ring game. But asking yourself the above will help determine what role your play might have had in each beat if any. And 2-3 BIs due to tilt is too much IMO after already losing a few BIs. I was a tilt machine when I first started playing years ago, but being mindful and really paying attention to yourself after a beat or lost stack can often alert you to take 5 minutes or whatever time you need to refocus. Even just stopping myself for a few minutes after a beat or lost stack has saved me money.
 
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it's poker you never know Finally, often lose with strong hands
 
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Is it 6max or Full ring?

Are you getting involved in pots with decent starting hands?

Are you betting and protecting your good hands to give incorrect odds for villains to call or are you betting too small or not at all and giving away cheap/free cards on turns and rivers?

Are you value betting your good hands but knowing to get out of the way to a shove raise on a dangerous board?

Asking myself these questions has helped me immensely after a beat or downswing. And honestly just in general in improving my game.

I don't think I'd worry about set over sets because they happen and you;'re going to lose stacks here and that's ok. But with overpair situations if you have say AJ and the board gives you a J but there's a K there and someone is betting into you consider yourself beat in most cases and fold.

Alright, I'll answer these, unfortunately withouts stats.
Full ring

Whenever I glance at stats button, I see flop approx 16-20% time, so VPIP could be around that number. I PFR with almost always in unopened pot but when I have low PP and passive table (Or suited connectors in LP)

Whenever I bet, I almost always bet rather too much than too less. I cbet like 4/5 flops and it pretty much works.

Now, I'll say that I have much easier time folding hands like bottom end of straight or Q high flush with 4 cards of the same suit on board or folding a set with obvious straight/flush draws against a lot of pressure. But I find my biggest leak of money is playing 99-JJ overpair on lets say 3c6s8h flop. Sometimes when I stack off in these situations I think to myself ''damn, that 3bet obviously meant more than AK'' when they show a set or bigger overpair.. As far as I can recozgnize without PT or HEM, it's a big leak for me.

Btw, AJ pair J with K coming up, imo, isn't that hard to fold.
 
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Alright, I'll answer these, unfortunately withouts stats.
Full ring

Whenever I glance at stats button, I see flop approx 16-20% time, so VPIP could be around that number. I PFR with almost always in unopened pot but when I have low PP and passive table (Or suited connectors in LP)

Whenever I bet, I almost always bet rather too much than too less. I cbet like 4/5 flops and it pretty much works.

Now, I'll say that I have much easier time folding hands like bottom end of straight or Q high flush with 4 cards of the same suit on board or folding a set with obvious straight/flush draws against a lot of pressure. But I find my biggest leak of money is playing 99-JJ overpair on lets say 3c6s8h flop. Sometimes when I stack off in these situations I think to myself ''damn, that 3bet obviously meant more than AK'' when they show a set or bigger overpair.. As far as I can recozgnize without PT or HEM, it's a big leak for me.

Btw, AJ pair J with K coming up, imo, isn't that hard to fold.

I'm not much of a stats guy and don't usually use a HUD. Maybe someone else can comment on your situation from a stats perspective. But in terms of board textures and when to bet/fold I'm wondering why you so easily fold bottom straights , Q high flushes, and sets on wet boards against a lot of pressure. I'm generally rarely folding in any of those situations. On bottom straight I might call a small bet if there's no flush likely. On Q high flushes I'm value betting that, only two cards beat me in most cases, I'm taking my chances there unless there's a pair or set on board already. And sets on flush/straight draws, I'm rarely folding esp if on flop because i have two more streets to get a boat and if someone hooks their flush on turn , I'm still getting a chance depending on the betting sizes to pop a boat on river and likely get them all in with their flush.

So for me I get the sense you are hitting some coolers and some bad beats but also you're leaving a ton of value in other spots by folding generally good hands on the off chance they have a slim chance of a better hand.

That's just my two cents though, from a more stats focused perspective (aside from pot odds, board texture, betting patterns) maybe someone else has insight.
 
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I'm not much of a stats guy and don't usually use a HUD. Maybe someone else can comment on your situation from a stats perspective. But in terms of board textures and when to bet/fold I'm wondering why you so easily fold bottom straights , Q high flushes, and sets on wet boards against a lot of pressure. I'm generally rarely folding in any of those situations. On bottom straight I might call a small bet if there's no flush likely. On Q high flushes I'm value betting that, only two cards beat me in most cases, I'm taking my chances there unless there's a pair or set on board already. And sets on flush/straight draws, I'm rarely folding esp if on flop because i have two more streets to get a boat and if someone hooks their flush on turn , I'm still getting a chance depending on the betting sizes to pop a boat on river and likely get them all in with their flush.

So for me I get the sense you are hitting some coolers and some bad beats but also you're leaving a ton of value in other spots by folding generally good hands on the off chance they have a slim chance of a better hand.

That's just my two cents though, from a more stats focused perspective (aside from pot odds, board texture, betting patterns) maybe someone else has insight.

Well, by folding bottom straights I mean those ''idiot end'' ones, like holding 44 on lets say 8s7s6s5h board. Don't mistake me for a nit, but it could be that all these coolers make me make too many hero fold, instead of usual hero calls.:(
 
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Just analyse your game regularly, you'll find it won't just be coolers but your probably playing bad as well.

Keep working on your game, you probably have holes in your game. Just assume that so you keep working at it :)

At the end of the day your game won't be that strong that's why your in micros and havnt moved up yet

GL with your grind! :)
 
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Alright, I know sample size is small, but It should give a general idea about my play. Could someone please be so kind and do a stat check up for me? Most important stats in bold.

Hands
7,053


Hands Won
914 (12.96%)

BB/100
6.71

All-In Adj BB/100
14.26

VPIP
17.84

PFR
11.96


3Bet PF
3.03

Fold to PF 3Bet
66.79

4Bet+ PF
3.95

Fold to PF 4Bet+
25.00

Call PF 3Bet
29.77

4Bet+ Ratio
0.97

PF Squeeze
1.82

WTSD %
24.35

WSD
51.18

WWSF
43.05

CBet F
61.56



CBet T
54.69

CBet R
61.90

CBet F Suc
52.20


CBet T Suc
28.57

CBet R Suc
38.46

Call F CBet
17.37

Call T CBet
19.05

Fold to F CBet
49.30

Fold to T CBet
19.05

PF Pos. Aware
2.10

Call R Eff
1.78

Att To Steal
27.29


3Bet Steal
5.06


Fold to Steal
76.57

Total AF
3.49

Total AFq
50.67
 
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Just analyse your game regularly, you'll find it won't just be coolers but your probably playing bad as well.

Keep working on your game, you probably have holes in your game. Just assume that so you keep working at it :)

At the end of the day your game won't be that strong that's why your in micros and havnt moved up yet

GL with your grind! :)

I know I belong to micro stakes, for now. I hope you didn't take my thread as whining, just trying to learn.
 
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Alright, I know sample size is small, but It should give a general idea about my play. Could someone please be so kind and do a stat check up for me? Most important stats in bold.


Just wondering what stakes are you playing and how experienced are you? Playing a little nitty PFR is fine if you're a little new.

Gap between VPIP and PFR is too high. You should stop almost all of your cold-calling or just calling raises, even if you are IP unless you have a very good reason to. You are bleeding a lot of money by doing this. Trust me :). Unless I'm in the BB/SB and have really good odds, I'm not calling with speculative hands like J10s/109s/98s. It's very important to have the initiative in the pot, as it allows you to take it down with a c-bet with marginal hands or air, or the option to take a free card a lot of the times, which are both very important. When you just call or go multi-way, you have to pretty much play fit-or-fold, and can't really make that many moves like floating/bluff-raising. And when you do actually hit something OOP especially, you often have to give the PFR/people IP free cards all the way down to the river, get outdrawn on a lot, and have reverse implied odds. I don't recommend playing too much OOP until you're solid postflop.

3-bet PF can be a little higher, but if you're at the micros you can 3-bet just strictly for value a range of JJ+/AQo. I play readless atm unfortunately, so if you have a HUD, you can 3-bet wider than that. Your c-bet stats look good. As you become more experienced, you should widen your opening range, especially in late position. Your attempt to steal should be a lot higher. I open something like 45% OTB and 28% CO. Gl!
 
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Just wondering what stakes are you playing and how experienced are you? Playing a little nitty PFR is fine if you're a little new.

Gap between VPIP and PFR is too high. You should stop almost all of your cold-calling or just calling raises, even if you are IP unless you have a very good reason to. You are bleeding a lot of money by doing this. Trust me :). Unless I'm in the BB/SB and have really good odds, I'm not calling with speculative hands like J10s/109s/98s. It's very important to have the initiative in the pot, as it allows you to take it down with a c-bet with marginal hands or air, or the option to take a free card a lot of the times, which are both very important. When you just call or go multi-way, you have to pretty much play fit-or-fold, and can't really make that many moves like floating/bluff-raising. And when you do actually hit something OOP especially, you often have to give the PFR/people IP free cards all the way down to the river, get outdrawn on a lot, and have reverse implied odds. I don't recommend playing too much OOP until you're solid postflop.

3-bet PF can be a little higher, but if you're at the micros you can 3-bet just strictly for value a range of JJ+/AQo. I play readless atm unfortunately, so if you have a HUD, you can 3-bet wider than that. Your c-bet stats look good. As you become more experienced, you should widen your opening range, especially in late position. Your attempt to steal should be a lot higher. I open something like 45% OTB and 28% CO. Gl!

VPIP and PFR gap comea from limping small PP from EP and MP. I know this tactic would get me killed in higher limits, but it works in 2NL and this concept is also discussed in "crushing the microstakes"

I have been playing since october, started with freerolls, then sngs to build minimum BR, then moved to cash. I have read "Poker Math that matters", "Theory of Poker" (almost) "Crushing the microstakes" and some mental game articles, but gotta reread them all to grasp concepts better.
 
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Your not cbetting enough.
Stealing not enough
Too much limping
Your folding too much against a steal
Your not positionally aware
Learn hand ranging
 
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Your not cbetting enough.
Stealing not enough
Too much limping
Your folding too much against a steal
Your not positionally aware
Learn hand ranging

What do you mean by positional awareness? Am I playing too many hands from EP and too few from LP?
by learning hand ranging do you mean putting opponents on range and playing your hand against average equity of range? Or am I misunderstanding smth here?
 
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Limping in micros like this will cost you dearly in the end, the only exception would be meeting bunch of fish on table who would be feared that you got nuts....

Also if you have AA and shove all-in there is big probability that some fish with 82 offsuit will call and will win.. like happened to me last week...
 
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If youre experiencing bad beats and suckouts everytime, then theres nothing wrong with you.

The best is to rest for a while since poker is always there.

Have to stop to protect yourself from tilting.
 
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Limping in micros like this will cost you dearly in the end, the only exception would be meeting bunch of fish on table who would be feared that you got nuts....

Also if you have AA and shove all-in there is big probability that some fish with 82 offsuit will call and will win.. like happened to me last week...

Crushing the microstakes by BlackRain79

Now I mentioned before that I think you should be entering pot as the preflop raiser vast majority of the time. However, there are couple exceptions which explain gap between VPIP and PFR. Here is one of them. At NL5 and NL2, you should limp 22-66 when you are in EP

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Is this advice outdated? And no, I used to be SNG player, losing with AA to 82o was common for me. I more get in trouble in situations where I have let's say T9s and I get a flush, but someone has QJs of same suit, these are situations where I lose most money.

And yes, gotta work on reducing gap between VPIP and PFR.
 
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I'm not much of a stats guy and don't usually use a HUD. Maybe someone else can comment on your situation from a stats perspective. But in terms of board textures and when to bet/fold I'm wondering why you so easily fold bottom straights , Q high flushes, and sets on wet boards against a lot of pressure. I'm generally rarely folding in any of those situations. On bottom straight I might call a small bet if there's no flush likely. On Q high flushes I'm value betting that, only two cards beat me in most cases, I'm taking my chances there unless there's a pair or set on board already. And sets on flush/straight draws, I'm rarely folding esp if on flop because i have two more streets to get a boat and if someone hooks their flush on turn , I'm still getting a chance depending on the betting sizes to pop a boat on river and likely get them all in with their flush.

So for me I get the sense you are hitting some coolers and some bad beats but also you're leaving a ton of value in other spots by folding generally good hands on the off chance they have a slim chance of a better hand.

That's just my two cents though, from a more stats focused perspective (aside from pot odds, board texture, betting patterns) maybe someone else has insight.

This is pretty well said. Its easy to only analyze hands and situations in which you lose, but a lot can be said for looking at hands you win as well to maximize profits. There is a ton of ways to lose chips in poker, so you want to maximize your situations where you are likely to be the winner.
 
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Crushing the microstakes by BlackRain79

Now I mentioned before that I think you should be entering pot as the preflop raiser vast majority of the time. However, there are couple exceptions which explain gap between VPIP and PFR. Here is one of them. At NL5 and NL2, you should limp 22-66 when you are in EP

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Is this advice outdated? And no, I used to be SNG player, losing with AA to 82o was common for me. I more get in trouble in situations where I have let's say T9s and I get a flush, but someone has QJs of same suit, these are situations where I lose most money.

And yes, gotta work on reducing gap between VPIP and PFR.

Yes mate that advice is outdated. Blackrain has added a note to that page in his book if I remember rightly saying that due to the way the games are now played these days it is best not to limp these hands from EP.
 
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If you have loose players to act after you or players with a high 3-bet % it is probably better to fold these from EP, if you table is full of nits then open them.
 
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If you have loose players to act after you or players with a high 3-bet % it is probably better to fold these from EP, if you table is full of nits then open them.

Interesting, will take note of it.
 
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Alright, My biggest money drainers are hands like these. I seem to grind up for 1-2k hands, for thing like this to happen, then grind up again and repeat the cycle.

***** 888poker Hand History for Game 530234716 *****
$0.01/$0.02 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** 10 01 2016 22:58:38
Table Leicester 9 Max (real money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: HaNk_GE ( $2 )
Seat 2: zakk815 ( $0.40 )
Seat 3: SashAAdams ( $2.47 )
Seat 4: Br_Smb ( $2 )
Seat 5: krucipisek ( $0.36 )
Seat 6: vladuika77 ( $0.76 )
Seat 9: Zepa10 ( $6.82 )
Seat 10: TheArnie ( $4.84 )
SashAAdams posts small blind [$0.01]
Br_Smb posts big blind [$0.02]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TheArnie [ Ts, Kd ]
krucipisek calls [$0.02]
vladuika77 folds
Zepa10 raises [$0.07]
TheArnie calls [$0.07]
HaNk_GE folds
zakk815 folds
SashAAdams folds
Br_Smb folds
krucipisek calls [$0.05]
** Dealing flop ** [ 7d, Kh, Ks ]
krucipisek checks
Zepa10 bets [$0.18]
TheArnie calls [$0.18]
krucipisek folds
** Dealing turn ** [ 8h ]
Zepa10 bets [$0.45]
TheArnie raises [$1.57]
Zepa10 calls [$1.12]
** Dealing river ** [ 3d ]
Zepa10 checks
TheArnie bets [$3.02]
Zepa10 calls [$3.02]
** Summary **
Zepa10 shows [ Kc, Ah ]
TheArnie shows [ Ts, Kd ]
Zepa10 collected [ $9.17 ]
 
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Dead thread, but still hot topic for me. Two steps forward, two steps back is poker for me... Have a look at my 2 hour session :D


Aces :)
888 Poker - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.63, PFR: 12.42, 3Bet Preflop: 1.99, Hands: 485)
BB: 104.5 BB (VPIP: 13.16, PFR: 6.58, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 76)
UTG: 135.5 BB (VPIP: 11.48, PFR: 8.20, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 61)
UTG+1: 123.5 BB (VPIP: 8.47, PFR: 8.47, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 59)
MP: 150.5 BB (VPIP: 32.63, PFR: 17.19, 3Bet Preflop: 2.17, Hands: 286)
MP+1: 17 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 12.11, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 228)
MP+2: 136.5 BB (VPIP: 36.56, PFR: 15.05, 3Bet Preflop: 17.39, Hands: 94)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 34)
Hero (BTN): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:heart: A:spade:

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, CO raises to 22.5 BB, Hero raises to 100 BB and is all-in, CO calls 77.5 BB and is all-in

Flop: (201.5 BB, 2 players) 8:heart: 5:spade: K:diamond:

Turn: (201.5 BB, 2 players) 6:spade:

River: (201.5 BB, 2 players) 7:spade:

CO shows K:spade: K:heart: (Three of a Kind, Kings)

Hero shows A:heart: A:spade: (One Pair, Aces)

CO wins 189 BB

888 Poker - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 104.5 BB
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.73, PFR: 9.80, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 53)
UTG: 199 BB (VPIP: 24.73, PFR: 22.58, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 93)
UTG+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 6.27, PFR: 4.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.94, Hands: 368)
MP: 132 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
MP+1: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 21.19, PFR: 13.56, 3Bet Preflop: 5.41, Hands: 118)
CO: 42 BB (VPIP: 13.51, PFR: 13.89, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
BTN: 60 BB (VPIP: 53.90, PFR: 7.80, 3Bet Preflop: 1.45, Hands: 142)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:heart: A:diamond:

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, UTG raises to 25 BB, fold, Hero raises to 104.5 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 79.5 BB

Flop: (213 BB, 2 players) 3:spade: K:heart: 4:diamond:

Turn: (213 BB, 2 players) Q:diamond:

River: (213 BB, 2 players) 6:diamond:

Hero shows A:heart: A:diamond: (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 81%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
UTG shows K:club: K:spade: (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 19%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)
UTG wins 200 BB



Flush vs straight flush :)

888 Poker - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP+1): 100 BB
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 12.96, PFR: 9.26, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 56)
BTN: 297 BB (VPIP: 26.80, PFR: 24.74, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 97)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 6.22, PFR: 4.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.93, Hands: 371)
BB: 132 BB (VPIP: 26.09, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
UTG: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 20.66, PFR: 13.22, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 121)
UTG+1: 42 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 12.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
MP: 56 BB (VPIP: 54.36, PFR: 7.38, 3Bet Preflop: 1.37, Hands: 150)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:heart: K:diamond:

fold, fold, MP calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4.5 BB, CO calls 4.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (11.5 BB, 2 players) 5:heart: 8:heart: 4:heart:
Hero bets 8.5 BB, CO calls 8.5 BB

Turn: (28.5 BB, 2 players) 7:heart:
Hero bets 21 BB, CO calls 21 BB

River: (70.5 BB, 2 players) 5:club:
Hero bets 66 BB and is all-in, CO calls 66 BB and is all-in

Hero shows K:heart: K:diamond: (Flush, King High)

CO shows 6:spade: 6:heart: (Straight Flush, Eight High)

CO wins 190 BB


Kids... Never chase a flush on paired board!!!

888 Poker - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 11.67, 3Bet Preflop: 2.70, Hands: 120)
MP: 88 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
CO: 30.5 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 8)
BTN: 48.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 118.5 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (BB): 111.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7:spade: 3:spade:

fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero checks

Flop: (2.5 BB, 2 players) T:spade: 6:club: 9:club:
Hero checks, CO bets 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Turn: (4.5 BB, 2 players) A:spade:
Hero checks, CO bets 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

River: (8.5 BB, 2 players) 6:spade:
Hero checks, CO bets 26.5 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 26.5 BB

CO shows 6:diamond: A:diamond: (Full House, Sixes full of Aces)
(Pre 61%, Flop 68%, Turn 75%)
Hero shows 7:spade: 3:spade: (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 39%, Flop 32%, Turn 25%)
CO wins 58 BB

888 Poker - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 142.5 BB (VPIP: 41.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
MP: 157 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
MP+1: 37 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
Hero (CO): 103 BB
BTN: 51 BB (VPIP: 18.52, PFR: 14.81, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
SB: 60 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 2.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 39)
BB: 131 BB (VPIP: 18.56, PFR: 8.25, 3Bet Preflop: 5.33, Hands: 195)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 9.84, PFR: 8.20, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 123)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:club: 4:club:

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 3.5 BB, BTN raises to 10 BB, fold, BB calls 9 BB, UTG calls 6.5 BB, Hero calls 6.5 BB

Flop: (40.5 BB, 4 players) 5:club: J:club: 5:diamond:
BB checks, UTG bets 30 BB, Hero calls 30 BB, BTN raises to 41 BB and is all-in, fold, UTG calls 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB

Turn: (163.5 BB, 3 players) 6:club:
UTG bets 49 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 49 BB

River: (261.5 BB, 3 players) A:spade:

Hero shows A:club: 4:club: (Flush, Ace High)

Main Pot [163.5 BB]: (Pre 29%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#1 [98 BB]: (Pre 34%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)

BTN shows Q:diamond: Q:club: (Two Pair, Queens and Fives)

Main Pot [163.5 BB]: (Pre 53%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)

UTG shows J:heart: J:diamond: (Full House, Jacks full of Fives)

Main Pot [163.5 BB]: (Pre 17%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)
Side Pot#1 [98 BB]: (Pre 66%, Flop 99%, Turn 100%)

UTG wins 153.5 BB
UTG wins 92 BB


Here comes the riveeer!!!

888 Poker - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 102.5 BB (VPIP: 18.09, PFR: 11.06, 3Bet Preflop: 4.69, Hands: 202)
SB: 126 BB (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 38)
BB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 13.79, PFR: 13.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
UTG: 49.5 BB (VPIP: 20.14, PFR: 6.29, 3Bet Preflop: 2.08, Hands: 148)
UTG+1: 155 BB (VPIP: 17.98, PFR: 7.89, 3Bet Preflop: 5.62, Hands: 229)
Hero (MP): 145 BB
MP+1: 20 BB (VPIP: 18.50, PFR: 9.69, 3Bet Preflop: 5.19, Hands: 232)
CO: 122 BB (VPIP: 19.23, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9:diamond: 9:spade:

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4.5 BB, fold, CO calls 4.5 BB, fold, SB calls 4 BB, BB raises to 10 BB, fold, Hero calls 5.5 BB, CO calls 5.5 BB, SB calls 5.5 BB

Flop: (41 BB, 4 players) T:club: 8:spade: J:spade:
SB checks, BB bets 20.5 BB, Hero calls 20.5 BB, fold, fold

Turn: (82 BB, 2 players) Q:diamond:
BB bets 41 BB, Hero raises to 114.5 BB and is all-in, BB calls 29 BB and is all-in

River: (222 BB, 2 players) 8:club:

BB shows Q:heart: Q:spade: (Full House, Queens full of Eights)
(Pre 81%, Flop 77%, Turn 25%)
Hero shows 9:diamond: 9:spade: (Straight, Queen High)
(Pre 19%, Flop 23%, Turn 75%)
BB wins 208.5 BB


I am pretty used to this, but it's a bit strange to take a such beating in only 2 hours.
But well, taking bad beats means you're a good player, doesn't it?
Actually I am pretty surprised, I was raging much worse when I called off 150BB conciously knowing that I was beat than now, taking such beating.
 
J

Jreece18

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Total posts
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What's your winrate over what sample size?
 
T

TheArnie

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Silver Level
Joined
Oct 15, 2015
Total posts
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What's your winrate over what sample size?

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I doubt 6,5BB/100 represent my true expected winrate though, because.
1. First 8,5k hands were me truly starting off.
2. This dowswing over like 100-150 hands is simply brutal... My winrate was like 11BB/100 before this.
 
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