1/2$ pre-flop hand range

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Was just curious to hear What peoples hand ranges are specifically from the Button! ( example: 3bet AA,KK,A5s for balance, raise with 22+, A2s+ and so on) I have found i play around 30% of my hands from the Button but im curious to head others opinions.
 
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Lol you shouldn't be concerned with balancing unless you're playing in the nosebleeds or against very solid regs that will actually exploit you, who don't exist in great numbers by the way. You're playing 1/2 live donkey kongs. Value bet more and bluff less. Playing exploitable against these players wins you the most money.

I imagine that a 30% VPIP live is a little loose with the limping-fest that's present almost every hand. You're entering pots without initiative, can't take down the pot pre, and have a decent ampunt of marginal holdings in your range that aren't profitable without the initiative/super ridiculous pot odds and implied odds (yes, those soooooted one-gappers/connectors). I raise about 45-50% OTB if it's unopened online, but your raising range should be pretty tight live since there's almost always going to be limpers and callers. 3-bet range should strictly for value: JJ+/AK. Unless you have a person who opens light and has a high fold to 3-bet AND almost everyone else at the table is nitty, which is very uncommon live from what I've heard.
 
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Lol you shouldn't be concerned with balancing unless you're playing in the nosebleeds or against very solid regs that will actually exploit you, who don't exist in great numbers by the way. You're playing 1/2 live donkey kongs. Value bet more and bluff less. Playing exploitable against these players wins you the most money.

I imagine that a 30% VPIP live is a little loose with the limping-fest that's present almost every hand. You're entering pots without initiative, can't take down the pot pre, and have a decent ampunt of marginal holdings in your range that aren't profitable without the initiative/super ridiculous pot odds and implied odds (yes, those soooooted one-gappers/connectors). I raise about 45-50% OTB if it's unopened online, but your raising range should be pretty tight live since there's almost always going to be limpers and callers. 3-bet range should strictly for value: JJ+/AK. Unless you have a person who opens light and has a high fold to 3-bet AND almost everyone else at the table is nitty, which is very uncommon live from what I've heard.


I have talked to other experienced players and they came to same conclusion as you when it came to "balancing" my 3bet range it does not need to be done, as for my playing 30% of hands from the BTN position I feel as though it is alright, i'm not raising all hands and when I do into multi way pots it will be a large amount with hands that obviously have equity when called.
 
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Just wondering what range of hands you are limping behind/calling behind/calling vs a single raise with OTB?

Also it's not just about the amount of equity you have in the hand. It's whether a play is +EV or not. Lots of hands give you reverse implied odds multi-way and simply don't play well multi-way, which I assume is super common 1/2 live.
 
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Just wondering what range of hands you are limping behind/calling behind/calling vs a single raise with OTB?

Also it's not just about the amount of equity you have in the hand. It's whether a play is +EV or not. Lots of hands give you reverse implied odds multi-way and simply don't play well multi-way, which I assume is super common 1/2 live.

strictly talking about BTN position it depends on how many limpers are in the pot before act, my rule for raising is 4x+1bb per limp, I am doing this with the top 30% of hands (ex:22+,A2s+,109s-43s,A10o,KJo,A7o+ and so on) however if I am facing a raise the weakest hands within my range will be folded (ex:Q10o,A7-A9o) the limping from the BTN comes into play when there are more than 2-3 limpers before me...as some of my hands I would prefer raising on the BTN play terribly post flop in multi way pots. Hands such as A9o and even KJo in 5 limp pots I will limp on the BTN opposed to making a 4x+1bb raise which in 1/2 would be 18$
 
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