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at these tables in AC the play is so terrible, im tired of playing tight aggressive and getting drawn out on or sensing weakness and betting and i get called with third best pair or the third best possible hand.

From now on I'm playing like a rock, if you have any other advice than let me know. thanks
 
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You almost have to play like a rock at those tables. Too many people willing to call with nothing. I find the best tables I have played at have been the ones I have opened. I play at the Borgata usually.
 
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I won 1000 bucks playing 1 2 no limit at borgata but they were playing like real poker players that night

Cant seem to find a better table. Do i have to move to higher limits?
 
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Game selection is very important, the games with larger average pots and flop viewing percentages are usually the best. Nothing better than sitting down at a juicy $1/2 game with the 80 years olds with retirement money or the people who just had a bad day at work...ahaha.

Moving to Higher Limits? It really depends, I wouldn't suggest moving up limits unless you can consistently beat the limit your bankroll is allowing you to play at right now. Even if the game looks good, if your bankroll can't take the hit, don't do it unless you are extremely confident you can win with very little risk. Also, it is important to note that if you can make more money one night playing 1/2 than 2/5 (or whatever the next highest game spread is) then you should play the 1/2.

If you are truly playing good and getting your money in good in most situations, the cards will even out and you will eventually be able to play higher limits.
 
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From now on I'm playing like a rock, if you have any other advice than let me know. thanks

The problem with that approach is that you'll soon get found out (if you are playing against even half decent player). The likely result will be that you won't get paid off when you hit a monster, and will still suffer the beats when someone hits something they never should have chased. Stick with TAG, if you are playing solidly the luck will even out in the long run.
 
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Game selection is very important, the games with larger average pots and flop viewing percentages are usually the best. Nothing better than sitting down at a juicy $1/2 game with the 80 years olds with retirement money or the people who just had a bad day at work...ahaha.

Moving to Higher Limits? It really depends, I wouldn't suggest moving up limits unless you can consistently beat the limit your bankroll is allowing you to play at right now. Even if the game looks good, if your bankroll can't take the hit, don't do it unless you are extremely confident you can win with very little risk. Also, it is important to note that if you can make more money one night playing 1/2 than 2/5 (or whatever the next highest game spread is) then you should play the 1/2.

If you are truly playing good and getting your money in good in most situations, the cards will even out and you will eventually be able to play higher limits.

im really starting to doubt that luck evens out over time...poker hates me, and i hate it back but want some fun....:mad: :mad:
 
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at these tables in AC the play is so terrible, im tired of playing tight aggressive and getting drawn out on or sensing weakness and betting and i get called with third best pair or the third best possible hand.

From now on I'm playing like a rock, if you have any other advice than let me know. thanks

The play can be horrible - it depends on when and where you go. You can often get in and out of certain pots cheap using position and can put on the illusion of being looser than you really are - which will allow you to get paid off when you hit the monster. It CAN be frustrating when a meager profit grinded out over hours can play can be wiped away - but just play ABC poker (advanced play is useless against beginners) and you'll be fine for the most part.

Keep in mind that the rake will over time eat your profit at 1/2. I prefer the daily tournies - the play is generally soft and you can get a nice advantage by learning physical tells. In AC you can generally get in a game at any time for less than $100 buy ins.
 
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Loose, bad players = more profit = more variance since said players will take sucker odds more often nd you'll see more rivers.

Be sure you have the BR or this kind of game can very well be unbeatable by you because of it's high variance nature.
 
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im tired of playing tight aggressive and getting drawn out on or sensing weakness and betting and i get called with third best pair or the third best possible hand.

Y'know I play at $10NL with 5c/10c blinds and have the same problem :) .
Seriously, It used to bother me but I have learnt now that bad beats happen - you cant avoid them. But if you are playing correctly, the odds are usually on your side and in the long run this counts for a lot. So you want them to call. I relish them calling. Go ahread buddy, add to my account. However bankroll management is the key - play well within yr bankroll, the loss a single buy in should hardly cause you to blink.

Also, although tight agressive is my modus operandi I often mix it up depending on the circumstances. If the table is tight and timid its quite fun to loosen-up and be aggressive. If the whole table is crazy, I tend to play like a rock. I hardly think about it now - just comes naturally. Sticking always to the same gameplan is counter-productive as people will get a good read on you, and its boring to boot.
 
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I just play solid Tight poker at the tables in borgata. The players there are very loose (and mostly drunk) it's easy to make a few bucks. They do call with garbage but that's a good thing.
 
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After a while of playing stakes like these it is easy to start thinking that fishy donktards are hunting you down and will always draw out on you. When i get to this point i say to myself 'donks=profit, and they are easier to beat!'
 
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man i wish I had taken all your thoughts into condsideration, lol
 
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I was starting to feel like that too for a while but I started analyzing my table first and then decided what kind of style I would use... wether I would bluff or not depending if it was tight or loose.

I also understand what you mean by sensing weakness and betting out and still getting called, I have some trouble reading rookie players too because when they "check" you think they are weak and suddenly they call. I think if they call, just give up on the bluff as they're more likely to call you down anyway.

So, I think you should still use your tight-aggressive style of play, it's simply the best style.
 
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tight aggressive? need to learn passive aggressive. see the problem here is you forced the issue. Like throwing dynomie in a lake to go fishing. Sometimes it doesn't end up in the lake and the fish has no choices.
You can only put the blame on yourself here. If these NL table are making you mad. Then it is time to change the betting structure for the cards will be the same but your concept of poker will change.
Go to a limit table and learn the art of drawing to a hand. This will gain you much needed experience and the answers you seek.
 
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Learn to play the players.....
 
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if it's live play that you're talking about then any time you have an all-in situation ask your opponet if he'd like to run it two or three times to reduce your variance
 
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you have to adapt to these kind of tables, ppl dont go to the casino to fold.

try this on for size:

semi loose preflop, super tight post flop. you'll always get paid off cause you give the illusion of being loose. all your trying to do is make a hand, with any two cards cause when you do your going to take down a huge pot and offset all the money you dumped preflop trying to make that great hand.

if you play tag you'll have to be able to get off a hand. but simply playing premium hands is not the best line is a loose fast paced game with big pots. suited connectors and pp's go up in value.
 
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it fun $1 $2 i made 1500 dollars at AC at full ring play tight :)
 
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you have to adapt to these kind of tables, ppl dont go to the casino to fold.

try this on for size:

semi loose preflop, super tight post flop. you'll always get paid off cause you give the illusion of being loose. all your trying to do is make a hand, with any two cards cause when you do your going to take down a huge pot and offset all the money you dumped preflop trying to make that great hand.

if you play tag you'll have to be able to get off a hand. but simply playing premium hands is not the best line is a loose fast paced game with big pots. suited connectors and pp's go up in value.
I've found this advice quite useful for ring games, as I virtually always played tournies before - thanks! :)
 
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A little off topic.....and sorry to hijack this thread but....

Why is it do you think that when I play $1/$2 NL at the casino I come away a big winner every time, but when I play the same game online, it feels like I am out of my depth?

Am i subconsiously playing looser online? Or is it too easy to click call? I try and play the same way but don't seem to have anywhere near the success online as I do at the Casino....
 
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Maybe online players are better?
 
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1/2 NL live is NOT equivalent to 1/2 online. Period.

The smallest tables you can normally find live is 1/2 so you'll get all the really bad players here, where online they are in the micro stakes.
 
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I've noticed how horrific the play is there whenever I return home on vacation etc. compared to the casinos in my home state. I think its because the players you're seeing in AC are often there on vacation or simply don't get to play live games very much outside of their home ones, so they play alot of hands and play very loose....they also probably arent as good since they play less.....the solution is exactly what previous posters have said....adjust to the game...when I'm playing at a "donkless" table I raise with good hands pre-flop and bluff more often...in AC I'm more inclined to let players walk into mistakes..if I get K-K or A-A and there's 3 or 4 going to the flop I'll limp and let some idiot fall into the trap because more often than not their all going to call your 10-12$ raise anyway once they've thrown in 2....no reason to blow that extra 10 bucks to get sucked out on. And NEVER BLUFF....you aren't going to bluff an idiot out of the pot, if the board is A-K-Q-J-2 he'll call you down with 3-2
 
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You might want to consider playing strong hands and near nuts! I suggest that you move you limits to a higher level, perhaps 2-4 or 5-10. But only if your bankroll allows. DON'T over extend
 
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