what are the % of a connected suiter improving..

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what are the odds of a connected suiter improving on the flop?
I want to know...
1) % of getting 2 suited on flop or open ender or flush or straight or 2 pairs (forgot)

Please don't give me "you shouldn't be playing this" or "it doesn't matter" because it just can and i just want the % :)
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I like suited connectors if I can see a cheap flop or raise on the button. If you miss, they're easy to get away from and if they hit you can cash in. Just remember that your odds only improve by 4% if your cards are suited, so don't get excited about hands like K 4 suited.
 
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use the rule of 4 & 2. on the flop, you have roughly 32% chance to hit on the TURN AND RIVER and 16% chance to hit on the river with OESD. with a FD you have roughly 32% chance to hit on TURN OR RIVER and about 18 % chance to hit on the river. take your outs, & multiply by 4 on the flop, and by 2 going to the river. these numbers are not exact but within like 1-2%, and this % is the % your equity in the hand.
 
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oh and two pair, is not even worth chasin most of the time becase it"s like 6-12% chance by the river.
 
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Read an article in the WPT Poker magazine a while back, which said that the number of times you flop something and beat AA (including flopping draws which then hit) is 6.7%, so if the implied odds are 15/1 then you have implied odds to call them in if you think the opponent has a very strong hand :)
 
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Read an article in the WPT Poker magazine a while back, which said that the number of times you flop something and beat AA (including flopping draws which then hit) is 6.7%, so if the implied odds are 15/1 then you have implied odds to call them in if you think the opponent has a very strong hand :)

That has to be impractical, there are always going to be bets on the flop/turn etc. so you have to assume you'll know the betting on the flop/turn to play by those implied odds!

That said, noone answered the OP, I'd like to know as well :)
 
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I think the odds of outflopping aces with a made hand is about 5% :) You've also got to remember that if you flop something like top pair, flush draw, and a backdoor straight, or a straight draw and a flush draw, you'll have good equity against aces :)
 
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How much is too much to commit with something like an open-ended straight draw and flush draw? Or even open ended straight flush draw? I seem to run into these hands all the time. I usually end up over-commiting and going broke.
 
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Opened ended straight flush draw vs aces, let's take 78dd as an example:


Board: 6d 9d Kh

Hand 0: {8d7d} 52.626%
Hand 1: {AcAd} 47.374%

With a flush draw and top pair:

Board: 6dJd9h

Hand 0: {8d9d) 51.5%
Hand 1: {AcAd} 48.5%


Both of those give him the Ad too, which will take a little bit off your equity.

HTH :)
 
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2% of flopping two pairs, 1% of flopping the flush and 1.3% of flopping the straight. As far as draws, just get on the odds calculator and see what odds your two cards get against any given holdings, then add 3%ish to account for them being suited.
 
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