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I always was wondering is it possible that there are any cheats on site? I mean if somebody from administration can do that? Like helping to any player in sunday million for example. Or is it possible that there any bots on site, playing for admins or for site, just to keep online or take money.
 
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I think it is not profitable for pokerstars. They normally earn. They do not need to cheat.
 
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with the rake they take why would they need too look at the amount of traffic on their site
 
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Yes, but after U.S. players gone traffic is lower!
Maybe any news about it? In media? Blogs? It's really hard to believe.
 
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I think yes , but the truth is , no one will tell )
 
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I do not believe, they make a lot of money. Don't need tricks!
 
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I noticed that members who never deposited more often get killed on river but who knows. We can't know that :)
 
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Maybe in the early years they cheated, but now they have a good income. Why should they lose their bad image. Any accidental exit outside of the facts will lead to bad consequences.
 
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Pokerstars is real?

This is a giant doubts , since we see many players being very profitable while others are super losers , I also I get this doubt and believe that the site does not have this irregularity.

I always was wondering is it possible that there are any cheats on site? I mean if somebody from administration can do that? Like helping to any player in sunday million for example. Or is it possible that there any bots on site, playing for admins or for site, just to keep online or take money.
 
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I don't agree with some. there are bots on PokerStars. They themselves acknowledge this and state that are fighting with Bots
 
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it's not a computer game in which you can enter the code and defeat all))))
 
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I just wonder the amount of massive hands that happen which blows up pots and earns them massive rakes.

I see daily sets over sets, full house vs full house, flush vs flush, etc etc etc.

Sure, one could say that when you play multiple tables for multiple hours a day the odds of that happening are higher. I just don't see it happening in MTTs as often as I see it happening in cash games.
 
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It's possible that there are bots playing that haven't been discovered yet.
You're most likely to find those in HU-games as those are "easier" to be more or less break-even at.

Pokerstars themselves cheating? Not in a million years.
The Absolute Poker scandal a decade ago made sure that NO site would ever make that possible again. In fact, Pokerstars only sends other people's hand info to your computer at showdown. It's impossible to know what your opponent has in advance (other than having a really good read).

With the amount of rake they earn, why would they need to cheat? They earn money with every hand that gets played in cash games, and every entry in a tournament or SnG. They make even more money from Spin&Go games (yes, even with the million dollar ones that happen so rarely that they made many millions more first).
 
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I think there are some players at PS who can see the outcome of the board pre-flop. I don't blame PS but I am sure there are some hacker players who can do that shit. No one can convince that a normal player can call a huge bet with a hands like 9-2 or 7-4 and then win like with 2 pairs or runner runner str8 and that shit happens A LOT at PS. And then you wonder with your pocket Aces or Kings 'Hey what just happened there?!'... did he really called my bet with a hand like 9-2 of? just like that??? Really?????? WTF!!???
 
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I think there are some players at PS who can see the outcome of the board pre-flop. I don't blame PS but I am sure there are some hacker players who can do that shit. No one can convince that a normal player can call a huge bet with a hands like 9-2 or 7-4 and then win like with 2 pairs or runner runner str8 and that shit happens A LOT at PS. And then you wonder with your pocket Aces or Kings 'Hey what just happened there?!'... did he really called my bet with a hand like 9-2 of? just like that??? Really?????? WTF!!???
post some hands,
because without any info, sometimes its okay to call/raise with 9-2,7-4...
especially with big stacks, against nits, and such
you watch the players that donk with shit hands, they dont win in the long run,
players that really know the game, win consistently
AA vs 67s only wins 77% of the time...
 
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PS themselves are okay. It's the bots, multi-accounters, super users, colluders via skype, etc. that kill that site and game. Plus the seat scripting bum hunters that drive away new players. Many pros told PS for years to do something, like global seating, where seat scripting is impossible. Sites like unibet that have global seating, no software like huds and the ability to change your alias has made poker more enjoyable and fair. It is my favourite site, I play exclusively there.
 
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I think there are some players at PS who can see the outcome of the board pre-flop. I don't blame PS but I am sure there are some hacker players who can do that shit. No one can convince that a normal player can call a huge bet with a hands like 9-2 or 7-4 and then win like with 2 pairs or runner runner str8 and that shit happens A LOT at PS. And then you wonder with your pocket Aces or Kings 'Hey what just happened there?!'... did he really called my bet with a hand like 9-2 of? just like that??? Really?????? WTF!!???

The reason why they make those plays is the HUD and software they use to gather info on you calculates the more probable play. It's unfair.
 
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You have to remember even hands like 9-2 or 7-4 have a chance to win pre-flop

Garabage still can win between 20-30% a lot of times. So 1 out of 4 times I know the maths aint perfect but it shows that people will win with these hands eventually.
 
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The reason why they make those plays is the HUD and software they use to gather info on you calculates the more probable play. It's unfair.

I am completely against HUDs. If you are playing at a live game you don't have any software helping you make decisions.

The online game should try to be as close to reality as possible, therefore HUDs shouldn't be allowed period. HUDs are the steroids of online poker.
 
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once made a deposit immediately begin moving unclear
 
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You have to remember even hands like 9-2 or 7-4 have a chance to win pre-flop

Garabage still can win between 20-30% a lot of times. So 1 out of 4 times I know the maths aint perfect but it shows that people will win with these hands eventually.

Ofcourse there is always a chance to lose against 9-2 off. What I am trying to tell is when I am holding AA or KK and I re-raise all-in pre-flop and the player who holds 9-2 off calls without thinking and hits his 9 and 2 that makes me thinking buddy. or calling with K-8 off and making runner runner str8. That shit happened to me in the early stage of big tournaments not in a sitngo 50 cents I could i understand. There are BOTS or Hacker Players at PS who knows the out come of the board. Thats the only explanation of calling with crap hands.
 
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To tell ya truth ... its the same for everyone.
If they have bots, then howcome so many CC players are winners.

It doesnt bother me either way.
 
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