Poker Stars freeroll revamp

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In the last day or two poker stars has totally redone the freeroll offerring. They seem to offer one every 40 minutes now, fewer allowed in them (sucks, as I used to do all but the NLHE which never filled up - the NLHE ALWAYS filled up), fewer Round 2 tix per game. It's nice they are offering all these new games though. Peope gotta be foaming at the mouth to try them I guess.
 

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Never Liked PS for their freerolls. Seemes like a joke to me that you first have to fight off 10.000 other players, just to qualify for a small freeroll. And PS is the biggest site around. They get so much traffic. It seems to me that they could afford to be a little more generous regarding freerolls. Their FPP system isnt all that generous either. i like FT better. Here I get a 27% rakeback besides the FTP.
 
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ienjoy the new freeroll format & it gives me opportunity to try diferent games for free before venturing into them in real money :)
 
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I think now it is max 9000 players for only 72entries for the real freeroll game.
 
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I think I like this.

They shrunk the field by 20% and the "payed" ranks by 20%, too.

At the end of the day that means I have to play an hour less to place:D.

+EV imo.

And the frequency of the FR coming up is better now, too.

Divebitch I'm with you - I don't like the NLHE donkaments either - they're boring.

Thinking about it - 2-7 triple draw drives me nuts, too.
 
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Seemes like a joke to me that you first have to fight off 10.000 other players, just to qualify for a small freeroll. And PS is the biggest site around. They get so much traffic. It seems to me that they could afford to be a little more generous regarding freerolls.

It is a joke. Yet the NLHE would fill up to 12000 no matter what time of day. Now, perhaps, because they 1) lowered the max players from 12000 to 9000, and 2) have more frequent freerolls - the other games will see more action. You have to imagine that is their intent, and probably marketing genius. Offer games that hardly anyone or nobody else does - 8 game, badugi, 2-7 draw, and hope they find it a challenging and fun change from the usual. Then people deposit $$$ to play them for real. I guess when you're #1, you can afford to be stingy with the freerolls.

ienjoy the new freeroll format & it gives me opportunity to try diferent games for free before venturing into them in real money :)

Yup, gotta be the plan.
 
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So if PS freefolls suck, what site has the best FR's available?
 
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I think I like this.

They shrunk the field by 20% and the "payed" ranks by 20%, too.

At the end of the day that means I have to play an hour less to place:D.

+EV imo.

And the frequency of the FR coming up is better now, too.

Divebitch I'm with you - I don't like the NLHE donkaments either - they're boring.

Thinking about it - 2-7 triple draw drives me nuts, too.

I don't like it much. I'm only interested in the Omaha, 2-7, and badugi, and with the exception of PL Omaha, those hardly ever came close to filling up. So I'm not saving an hour. If anything, the game will take longer, since they've reduced the 'payouts' by (and I believe it's) 25% - 40%. This 8-game I'm in right now gives out just 48 round 2 tix. To me, it's at least an extra 1/2 hour of battle for a far greater chance I won't even make it. BTW, I kinda like the 2-7, but I think the FR all by itself is the single draw. In the 8-game, it's triple draw. You have to adjust to needing a way lower hand.
 
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I don't like it much. I'm only interested in the Omaha, 2-7, and badugi, and with the exception of PL Omaha, those hardly ever came close to filling up. So I'm not saving an hour. If anything, the game will take longer, since they've reduced the 'payouts' by (and I believe it's) 25% - 40%. This 8-game I'm in right now gives out just 48 round 2 tix. To me, it's at least an extra 1/2 hour of battle for a far greater chance I won't even make it. BTW, I kinda like the 2-7, but I think the FR all by itself is the single draw. In the 8-game, it's triple draw. You have to adjust to needing a way lower hand.


Mmm - maybe I should have looked through all the payout structures...

There is a point in what you said.

Everyone has his favourites, mine are Omaha hi/lo limit, razz and horse .
 
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I haven't been playing at PS in quite awhile but I think I will give it a try for awhile and see how it goes.
 
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It is a joke. Yet the NLHE would fill up to 12000 no matter what time of day. Now, perhaps, because they 1) lowered the max players from 12000 to 9000, and 2) have more frequent freerolls - the other games will see more action. You have to imagine that is their intent, and probably marketing genius. Offer games that hardly anyone or nobody else does - 8 game, badugi, 2-7 draw, and hope they find it a challenging and fun change from the usual. Then people deposit $$$ to play them for real. I guess when you're #1, you can afford to be stingy with the freerolls.

Not a 'joke', imo. OTOH, smart move. I'm a night owl, the really late NLHE FR's never filled. Sometimes only 6-7k players. There has been an increasing trend in getting away from nlhe games. The Stars VIP FR on Sundays has made HORSE a permanent last Sunday of the month game. They replaced another nlhe game with Omaha which is to repeat periodically.

Maybe there is a real message here. Are too many people tired of depositing to play nlhe online and losing? Are actual 'deposits' falling off? Stars has a superior marketing team that leads the industry in forethought and innovations, imo.

Is this a result of the trend to make HORSE 'the' premier game in poker with a wsop buy-in of $50,000??

I wouldn't say increasing available freerolls is 'stingy'. Adding more games while reducing tickets per game probably equals the same number of Round 2 tickets awarded each week and actually requires a player to play more of the game than donking into a huge nlhe chip stack and sitting out to make the ticket at 99 (or 88).

I don't like it much. I'm only interested in the Omaha, 2-7, and badugi, and with the exception of PL Omaha, those hardly ever came close to filling up. So I'm not saving an hour. If anything, the game will take longer, since they've reduced the 'payouts' by (and I believe it's) 25% - 40%. This 8-game I'm in right now gives out just 48 round 2 tix. To me, it's at least an extra 1/2 hour of battle for a far greater chance I won't even make it. BTW, I kinda like the 2-7, but I think the FR all by itself is the single draw. In the 8-game, it's triple draw. You have to adjust to needing a way lower hand.

On reducing players and tickets awarded, maybe you don't recall when a Round 2 ticket only went to the top 27 of 10,000 players and only 24 tickets at an 8 seat game.

The 2-7 single draw is a NL game. The triple draw 2-7 in the 8-game is a limit game instead of NL. Strategies are different for each type. BTW - note that the Badugi's are scattered far away from the 16:30 game on Tilt that we discussed in another thread.

Carefully look over the new schedule and you'll find the prevailing difference is the HUGE quantity of limit and Pot Limit games being offered. I don't pretend to have all the answers, but 'someone' has a reason for reducing the nlhe FR offerings.

Personally, I like the changes. Instead of having 2 or 3 Round 2 tickets in 'the bank', maybe I can increase that ... :D
 
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do any of the ps freerolls pay or are they all sattelites
 
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wow, this was why i switched to FTP because of the frequency of their freerolls. I used to love PS, guess I should go back and check it out then huh?
 
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do any of the ps freerolls pay or are they all sattelites

Might help if you just logged in to pokerstars and checked the schedules and the tourney lobbies.

But - no cash payouts in the FR's. They are all sats to a Round 2 ticket to be used in any Saturday or Sunday Round 2 game that does pay cash - a $2,000 prize pool.
 
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I love having more variety to chose from. And I also like having the increased frequency of the freerolls, too! I used to enter them to kill time when they offered only 27 spots...just wasn't worth it to me to invest the time needed to advance.

But now, I can pick something other than holdem, and getting to rnd 2 is not that difficult!
 
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Yeah got to love the new 8 game mix tournies. ANd THey got horse too.

LOL, they even added 5 card draw, PL.
 
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I love having more variety to chose from. And I also like having the increased frequency of the freerolls, too! I used to enter them to kill time when they offered only 27 spots...just wasn't worth it to me to invest the time needed to advance.

But now, I can pick something other than holdem, and getting to rnd 2 is not that difficult!

Did you notice that even the NLHE play money games have been greatly reduced and replaced with the so-called 'variety' games .. ??

Even one of the Badugi games I looked at was a 'limit' Badugi, where the FR's are PL. Maybe Stars and the Poker giants have seen enough of the all-in pf maniacs. ... ??
 
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Did you notice that even the NLHE play money games have been greatly reduced and replaced with the so-called 'variety' games .. ??

Even one of the Badugi games I looked at was a 'limit' Badugi, where the FR's are PL. Maybe Stars and the Poker giants have seen enough of the all-in pf maniacs. ... ??

Know what I've noticed? The NLHE fills up at 9000, whereby it would still fill up at 9000, but the other games would fill up as well. I just finished int he Badugi (see velow), but doubt I'll keep doing this nonsense.

Not sure I mentioned it b4, but with the NLHE filling up, the other games do too, and that's for sure.

I agree fk - kinda pathetic. It was b4, but now, it's just crazy.
 

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I do not like pokerstars' freerolls. First off there are 10k people in them. An it's a freeroll to a freeroll how pathetic is that. There pointless to play. But i guess if u are bored then sometimes play in them.

Hey I have done pretty good in them.
 
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I think is not big change in the FR, maybe some more games, but change the max players but also the payments, so if before was a 12000 players max now is 6000 to 9000 but the payments before was the first 99 and now the first 45-75.

And then another game of 2000 or 4000 in the round 2, at the end is the same like before.
 
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Know what I've noticed? The NLHE fills up at 9000, whereby it would still fill up at 9000, but the other games would fill up as well.

Oops. What I meant to say was this... NLHE fills up at 9000, whereby it would (used to) fill up at 12000, but the other games are now filling up as well due to the overflow - they haven't in the past.

I think is not big change in the FR, maybe some more games, but change the max players but also the payments, so if before was a 12000 players max now is 6000 to 9000 but the payments before was the first 99 and now the first 45-75.

And then another game of 2000 or 4000 in the round 2, at the end is the same like before.

Complete agree that in the end, it's same as before. However, my main point was how the revamp has affected the games I prefer. If you play NLHE, it shouldn't affect you at all unless you miss the registration. Yes, instead of 12000, it's 9000 people. But if you prefer some of the other games, I find those games are now filling up, whereas they had not before. And this is possibly due to the overflow of people that couldn't register in time for NLHE.

This is just a rough example. Let's say before the revamp, 2-7 draw had max 9000, and gave 88 round 2 spots. But now it's max 7000 for 56 spots. While the ratio might be about the same, that game might usually only draw 5000 players anyway. So in effect, there are simply fewer Round 2 tix. And to make it worse, because 3000 people got shut out of NLHE, they will play 2-7 instead, so now it fills up to 7000 instead of 5000, and just 56 tix instead of 88. Does that make sense?
 
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The only problem is that there seem to be so many donks who dont know these games so they just bet and raise every round ... seems more frustriating in the stud games
 
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The only problem is that there seem to be so many donks who dont know these games so they just bet and raise every round ... seems more frustriating in the stud games

Oh yeah, anything limit is a raisefest the first hour. But you are so right, there are some hilariously bad players in Badugi and 2-7 draw. In the 8-game I played in yesterday, the 2-7 is triple draw. Someone's straight got beaten by trip 7s. :eek: You have 3 draws, how could this happen? :laugh: Had to take a screenshot, but forgot to paste it. :(
 
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Oh yeah, anything limit is a raisefest the first hour. But you are so right, there are some hilariously bad players in Badugi and 2-7 draw. In the 8-game I played in yesterday, the 2-7 is triple draw. Someone's straight got beaten by trip 7s. :eek: You have 3 draws, how could this happen? :laugh: Had to take a screenshot, but forgot to paste it. :(

It happens because people don't know what the game is, so they think it's like 5 card draw where you draw 3 times. I've seen people end up with quads, full houses, etc. after standing pat on the last draw. I feel like if you are going to enter a game, at the very least google it to learn the rules first...
 
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Oh yeah, anything limit is a raisefest the first hour. But you are so right, there are some hilariously bad players in Badugi and 2-7 draw. In the 8-game I played in yesterday, the 2-7 is triple draw. Someone's straight got beaten by trip 7s. :eek: You have 3 draws, how could this happen? :laugh: Had to take a screenshot, but forgot to paste it. :(

The triple draw is hilarious, only about 2 players at the first table seem to know it's lo and of those 2, 1 usually thinks A is lo, sad but makes getting a big stack early easy!
 
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