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Five players have been conducting studies over the past year on a gaming network called Pitbull Poker.
This is how it began. A player by the name of "yousmellfunny" created an account because of their bounty tournament that included TJ Cloutier. As this player built up his roll he decided to play cash games aside form his usual MTT's. As a very knowleged and respected amid the online games, He started to notice money missing off of players stacks.
As he further investigated the site was shaving money fom the pots when it was in the middle of the table. Obviously aside from the rake. He confirmed the numbers to vary from $.02 to $25.00, just disappearing into thin air. Than he sat down to see if it would happen to him. Lo and Behold it did. Here is an email he has forwarded to us with exchange conversation between himself and PBdave (the network manager). This email was written after many unseuccessful attempts to come to a conclusionwith live support, completely denying that ever happened.
From: ********************************
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 6:18 AM
To: Dave Brenes
Subject: Re: hello
Hello Dave,
Three days ago I was playing on one of your plo8 cash tables. As I was at the table two players were involved in a pot which both players ended up going all in.. It was a split pot and their money was returned. I was pretty certain one of the players was missing $25 and it was not because he was quartered in the pot. I thought I must have made a mistake so I ignored it and thought nothing more of it. Last night I was on the plo8 tables and I was involved in a pot which we both went all in. We both had the high str8 and was a split pot. He had $44 at the table I had $34 (approx) however I was returned only $24 and same with him. The other $10 disappeared out of nowhere. The two players I was playing with both agreed that my money just up and "disappeared" for no reason. I contacted live support and they admitted after giving them my hand history and such that they are aware of this problem. Also that I would be refunded my money later on sometime.
So in all I do not see how a glitch in a software can mainly be taking players money without permission or reason? How many players have been affected by this and gone unoticed? How is my money safe here? Why did I not receive any emails from management or support staff to be aware of this problem if they already knew?
Dave as we have talked over the past week you have taken note to my issues here with pitbull poker. Now this comes about another issue, this one more serious than the others. My own personal money being taken by your website out of nowhere is not a joke. I want my entire account tracked by whomever to make sure this hasn't happened before to me and to be retributed properly if so.
If you would like to speak further on this issue I will be available by phone at 2pm and there after at the number stated in my account.
I do expect a full explanation as to what is going on here.
his reply
From: Dave Brenes <dave@pitbullgaming.com>
To: **********************
Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 5:03:54 PM
Subject: RE: hello
******
I’m very sorry I haven’t called you, I will do it tomorrow morning as I am really looking into this matter with the programmers and is taking all of my time. Cheers!
Regards,
Dave Brenes
Network Manager
Pitbull Gaming
Phone: (514) 907.9324
Skype: dave.brenes
From: Dave Brenes <dave@pitbullgaming.com>
To: ****************************
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2008 1:38:08 PM
Subject: RE: hello
Hi *****,
We will be compensating all players effected by this issue. This is already taking place and all players are being looked over on the entire network.
Regards,
Dave Brenes
Network Manager
Pitbull Gaming
Phone: (514) 907.9324
Skype: dave.brenes
This is the very tip of the iceberg...and is going to have tonnes of evidence to show. Its too hard to just post it all here as it will take days of reading and people will not be attracted to such a list. So I will continue to post throughout the thread all of the evidence. Which will also conclude evidence of a very possible super using situation
This is how it began. A player by the name of "yousmellfunny" created an account because of their bounty tournament that included TJ Cloutier. As this player built up his roll he decided to play cash games aside form his usual MTT's. As a very knowleged and respected amid the online games, He started to notice money missing off of players stacks.
As he further investigated the site was shaving money fom the pots when it was in the middle of the table. Obviously aside from the rake. He confirmed the numbers to vary from $.02 to $25.00, just disappearing into thin air. Than he sat down to see if it would happen to him. Lo and Behold it did. Here is an email he has forwarded to us with exchange conversation between himself and PBdave (the network manager). This email was written after many unseuccessful attempts to come to a conclusionwith live support, completely denying that ever happened.
From: ********************************
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 6:18 AM
To: Dave Brenes
Subject: Re: hello
Hello Dave,
Three days ago I was playing on one of your plo8 cash tables. As I was at the table two players were involved in a pot which both players ended up going all in.. It was a split pot and their money was returned. I was pretty certain one of the players was missing $25 and it was not because he was quartered in the pot. I thought I must have made a mistake so I ignored it and thought nothing more of it. Last night I was on the plo8 tables and I was involved in a pot which we both went all in. We both had the high str8 and was a split pot. He had $44 at the table I had $34 (approx) however I was returned only $24 and same with him. The other $10 disappeared out of nowhere. The two players I was playing with both agreed that my money just up and "disappeared" for no reason. I contacted live support and they admitted after giving them my hand history and such that they are aware of this problem. Also that I would be refunded my money later on sometime.
So in all I do not see how a glitch in a software can mainly be taking players money without permission or reason? How many players have been affected by this and gone unoticed? How is my money safe here? Why did I not receive any emails from management or support staff to be aware of this problem if they already knew?
Dave as we have talked over the past week you have taken note to my issues here with pitbull poker. Now this comes about another issue, this one more serious than the others. My own personal money being taken by your website out of nowhere is not a joke. I want my entire account tracked by whomever to make sure this hasn't happened before to me and to be retributed properly if so.
If you would like to speak further on this issue I will be available by phone at 2pm and there after at the number stated in my account.
I do expect a full explanation as to what is going on here.
his reply
From: Dave Brenes <dave@pitbullgaming.com>
To: **********************
Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 5:03:54 PM
Subject: RE: hello
******
I’m very sorry I haven’t called you, I will do it tomorrow morning as I am really looking into this matter with the programmers and is taking all of my time. Cheers!
Regards,
Dave Brenes
Network Manager
Pitbull Gaming
Phone: (514) 907.9324
Skype: dave.brenes
From: Dave Brenes <dave@pitbullgaming.com>
To: ****************************
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2008 1:38:08 PM
Subject: RE: hello
Hi *****,
We will be compensating all players effected by this issue. This is already taking place and all players are being looked over on the entire network.
Regards,
Dave Brenes
Network Manager
Pitbull Gaming
Phone: (514) 907.9324
Skype: dave.brenes
This is the very tip of the iceberg...and is going to have tonnes of evidence to show. Its too hard to just post it all here as it will take days of reading and people will not be attracted to such a list. So I will continue to post throughout the thread all of the evidence. Which will also conclude evidence of a very possible super using situation
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