Personal thoughts Pokerstars vs Partypoker

Hi everyone!

I used to play online poker just on pokerstars, and I never tried another site, just few weeks ago, I tried and join partypoker because I had a bad runs on pokerstars.

I litteraly found that strong hands, like AA, KK always win on partypoker, I had like two or three bad beats with those hands. Unlike pokerstars, I litteraly lose with those hands most of the time. and I am talking about micro buyins

It could be just me, but I really think that pokerstars algorithms is weird, unlike partypoker!

Do you experience that ?

Thank you for reading

TheFaissal said:

Hi everyone!

I used to play online poker just on pokerstars, and I never tried another site, just few weeks ago, I tried and join partypoker because I had a bad runs on pokerstars.

I litteraly found that strong hands, like AA, KK always win on partypoker, I had like two or three bad beats with those hands. Unlike pokerstars, I litteraly lose with those hands most of the time. and I am talking about micro buyins

It could be just me, but I really think that pokerstars algorithms is weird, unlike partypoker!

Do you experience that ?

Thank you for reading

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You're not the only one who noticed it, I also noticed it, I just stopped playing and making big bets on AA and KK, on poker stars these hands really often lose

Ranish625 said:

You're not the only one who noticed it, I also noticed it, I just stopped playing and making big bets on AA and KK, on poker stars these hands really often lose

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Really, well glad that its not only me!

I don't know but i sometimes have doubts about pokerstars!

TheFaissal said:

Hi everyone!

I used to play online poker just on pokerstars, and I never tried another site, just few weeks ago, I tried and join partypoker because I had a bad runs on pokerstars.

I litteraly found that strong hands, like AA, KK always win on partypoker, I had like two or three bad beats with those hands. Unlike pokerstars, I litteraly lose with those hands most of the time. and I am talking about micro buyins

It could be just me, but I really think that pokerstars algorithms is weird, unlike partypoker!

Do you experience that ?

Thank you for reading

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No its not just you but you havent spent enough time on the site. When I started again I felt the same way. As of late the last 5 times I had KK on Party, someone had AA. Its not a better RNG. Give it some time, and you will experience the same craziness you experience on PokerStars.

Its definitely not better software. It should be for how long they have had to get it right. GG Poker software makes both of these look ancient.

ChickenArise said:

No its not just you but you havent spent enough time on the site. When I started again I felt the same way. As of late the last 5 times I had KK on Party, someone had AA. Its not a better RNG. Give it some time, and you will experience the same craziness you experience on PokerStars.

Its definitely not better software. It should be for how long they have had to get it right. GG Poker software makes both of these look ancient.

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You right, definitely needs time, I have never tried GG Poker, is it better or worse? or do you have a suggestion for other sites? that you think they beat the ones we talked about?

I'd be really surprised if any of the big sites have faulty random number generators. If AA & KK were consistently worse than other hands on PokerStars I'm pretty sure I would have noticed.

KK is only 50:50 against A3s & JTs in the same hand:



AA is only 67:33 (i.e., 2:1) against the same hands:



AA fairs even worse (63:37) against 77 and JTs:

LOL no, I didn't noticed this at all. Don't get it twisted - you will get your fair share of bad beats on Partypoker for months too

Thank you for sharing this!

I am not talking about statistics, but your feeling when you lose big hands like AA & KK, against hands that you beat preflop, in poker that happen and I understand that, but to happen more than two times in one tournament, it really make me sick.

A few months ago, I remember I play the $109 and I had a healthy stack, I lost three times in a row with KK, KK, AK and I was out of the tournament. and all the hand played against me were weird and I own them preflop.

With that being said, I don't deny that I won pots with hands like 10J against AA or KK, i did and still do.

I now literally play big hands carefully, and I won a tournament last year laying down big hands like that!

Thank you for sharing with me

iwont20 said:

LOL no, I didn't noticed this at all. Don't get it twisted - you will get your fair share of bad beats on Partypoker for months too

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Good to know, I accept the bad beats, but to happen really more than once every day, make me feel uncomfortable playing big hands!

Anyway, I managed to win a tournament, by laying down big hands. I really did!

I love both poker rooms, each for a different reason.I think Partypoker deep stack tournaments are terrible, but sit & go and cash games are much better than Pokerstas.Only tournaments are worth playing at Pokerstars.

MattRyder said:

I'd be really surprised if any of the big sites have faulty random number generators. If AA & KK were consistently worse than other hands on PokerStars I'm pretty sure I would have noticed.

KK is only 50:50 against A3s & JTs in the same hand:

AA is only 67:33 (i.e., 2:1) against the same hands:

AA fairs even worse (63:37) against 77 and JTs:

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Ok but that is in 3-way pots.. heads up the stats lean more towards AA or KK.

Regardless, for the OP, if you have just joined partypoker then enjoy the run good. It will last for a little bit before you start seeing the same things you saw on Stars. It is all the same for the big sites.

TheFaissal said:

You right, definitely needs time, I have never tried GG Poker, is it better or worse? or do you have a suggestion for other sites? that you think they beat the ones we talked about?

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The only thing better about GG Poker is the software and the players are a little looser. I cant say anything in favor of the RNG as it seems when I have the other player dominated he will hit his kicker a little over 25% of the time, but this is probably just variance.

This is likely the nature of the game though. You are rarely ever an astronomical favorite to win in this game. Even a one outer is less than 1 in 50. They may call it a miracle card but if you think about it, the odds are not even close to a miracle.

This is a huge topic , but I can tell you that also in PS, where I play the most are periods when I run like God and other periods when you have that feeling that everything and everyone is against you.

I can also give you a ''balanced'' example which I vividly remember:
1)68s in stone bubble cracked my AA , the player 3bet shove me with that hand vs my late position open raise!
-2)I tripled up into 2 more players in a preflop flip with a K-my hand was KK- on the river and one of the other players had AA!

So I guess the short term outcomes are not safe?!?!

I personally did not notice a significant difference between the RNG of these rooms! But what I know for sure that the loyalty program at the party is much better than the Stars!

akmost said:

This is a huge topic , but I can tell you that also in PS, where I play the most are periods when I run like God and other periods when you have that feeling that everything and everyone is against you.

I can also give you a ''balanced'' example which I vividly remember:
1)68s in stone bubble cracked my AA , the player 3bet shove me with that hand vs my late position open raise!
-2)I tripled up into 2 more players in a preflop flip with a K-my hand was KK- on the river and one of the other players had AA!

So I guess the short term outcomes are not safe?!?!

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I agree with you, I as well run like a god sometimes, but a lot of times, I question myself about big hands!

I am not saying that a site is better than another, but from my short experience with Partypoker, I found that good hands win most of the time.

I love Pokerstars, and I am kinda addicted to its visual and graphic style, they are the best compared to all the others, but I wish this thought about big hands is not real, otherwise, this is a big problem!

I wish you all the best at tables

TheFaissal said:

I agree with you, I as well run like a god sometimes, but a lot of times, I question myself about big hands!

I am not saying that a site is better than another, but from my short experience with Partypoker, I found that good hands win most of the time.

I love Pokerstars, and I am kinda addicted to its visual and graphic style, they are the best compared to all the others, but I wish this thought about big hands is not real, otherwise, this is a big problem!

I wish you all the best at tables

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Oh yes I am addicted to PS' visuals and other functions like the easy to apply layouts too.Let's be honest here , atm it is by far the best option out there(graphics/traffic)

They say though that if your plays are mathematically correct then you will beat the game in the long run . Hope this is true! :icon_stud

Have fun at the tables ,good luck and wish you all the best for the new year

PokerStars is able to present frequent surprises when you keep the situation under control. Especially on the river.

If we talk about the fact that such hands as AA and KK often lose on PokerStars, then this requires a selection of these hands from the played tournaments. For example, for the last six months, or better for a year.
In tournament poker, I noticed that I almost do not give out such hands. And if you gave out such a hand, then you need to play it and not worry about moving.
For example, one of the samples within 1000 hands I was given 1 time AA. Watched only tournaments.

Vallet said:

PokerStars is able to present frequent surprises when you keep the situation under control. Especially on the river.

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That's exactly what I am experiencing! Most of my hands were beaten on the river, from flush to straight and sets, always on the river!

TheFaissal said:

That's exactly what I am experiencing! Most of my hands were beaten on the river, from flush to straight and sets, always on the river!

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If the opponent does not care about the amount of bets, he will pursue a straight draw or flush draw to the river. And PokerStars encourages this often.

bad beat is a bad beat, no matter on which site do you play, you will experience all.
You can't wait to win every hand with AA or KK, it's just not going to happend, and no one can tell you that will.

Someone already said, that you can win small or lose big with AA

Sometime you have to lay them down, if you can controll your emotions and keep it real.

Algorithm in RNG is complicated issue, and you can't predict, but you can make educated guess, and make your decission.

Both PS & PartyPoker are reputable sites, with huge ammount of players, much better thatn other sites.

Anyway, I wish you GL on the tables..

dino said:

bad beat is a bad beat, no matter on which site do you play, you will experience all.
You can't wait to win every hand with AA or KK, it's just not going to happend, and no one can tell you that will.

Someone already said, that you can win small or lose big with AA

Sometime you have to lay them down, if you can controll your emotions and keep it real.

Algorithm in RNG is complicated issue, and you can't predict, but you can make educated guess, and make your decission.

Both PS & PartyPoker are reputable sites, with huge ammount of players, much better thatn other sites.

Anyway, I wish you GL on the tables..

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Thank you for your comment!

I am not saying that you can expect to always win with those hands, but I literally experience some bad beats that are weird, and here is an example of many:

A few months back, I played the $109 on PokerStars, and I was playing my best and had a huge chip lead, all of a sudden, I had back to back AA's, and both hands were beaten, few mins again, and I had KK and I bubbled the tournament that early.

It seems like no one can know the answer, but at least, I can say that it's kinda weird!

Thank you again

I play for a long time both there and there. The algorithms are most likely similar. Here are people and their numbers are very different. There are a lot of players at pokerstars, so it’s more difficult to play there. (my personal opinion)