Originally Posted by zzzaacckk
For the sngs I haven't really been keeping track but i think in generally I am a bit above even ...
My questions is what is the next step? When can I move up?
For the S&G's, look yourself up on SharkScope
. While it misses the occasional S&G, it's a good estimate.
I looked you up. Your low-point was mid-way through your S&G career, and you are a little up from that, but overall you have a -12% ROI.
I had a similar slide at first, but worked on my game and managed a positive ROI.
As for the next step...
I think increasing the buy-ins for your S&G's is a mistake. Don't move up until you have a profit (IE, SharkScope gives you a positive ROI).
I don't think moving up to $.02/$.05 games is a bad idea as long as you're prepared to move back down quickly. The difference in play isn't substantial, so if you're doing well at the lowest limit you might as well increase the payoff of your good play.
What I would do if I were you would be to dedicate $20 of your $50 to moving up to $.02/$.05. If you burn through that $20, drop back down to $.01/$.02 until you've made another $25 or $30 ($5 or $10 more than where you were at before). Then try moving up again, but if you lose $20 drop back down and earn another $25 or $30 before moving back up. Then despite losing at the higher level, you'll still at least be making a profit.
Once you reach $100, try dedicating $25 or so to the $.05/$.10 games, moving down quickly if you lose, and adding more than you lost before moving back up.
If I recall, I started $.01/$.02 with $50. At about $75 I moved up to $.05/$.10 but vowed to move back down if I lost $10. That never happened. I planned to moved up to $.10/$.25 when I hit $300 (moving down if I lost $50) but I ended up moving up closer to $400, and I was pretty successful at it.
I had planned on moving up to $.25/$.50 at $1,000 and I'm within $5 of that now (thanks to a big suck out last night), but I think I'll wait a few months none the less. I'm still learning (from posters like ChuckTs and Zachvac), so I want to learn on the cheap until I'm comfortable.
There are several factors for moving up:
-One is bankroll, which can be fudged with as long as you are willing to move back down before you're under rolled for the lower limits.
-Another is skill. If you can't make a consistent profit at the lower levels, there's no reason to believe that will change at the higher levels. Losing money at a faster rate is not good management.
-A third is financial. If you don't with to jeopardized the consistency at your current level then moving up is a bad idea.
-Another is mental. If you feel you have more to learn, or feel unprepared for a higher level, or don't have the desire to play at higher level, then moving up isn't a good idea. But likewise, if the lower limits just don't grab your attention/interest moving up might be acceptable. Even if you lose money, if it's worth it for the level of entertainment you get from it (IE, if it's like putting quarters into a video game or paying $7 for a movie), then moving up is OK.