Kings vs aces on pokerstars

Does anyone here with a large database have stats on how often they are dealt kings while someone else has aces in NL 6 max cash games. It happened to me 3 times in about 2000 hands and I am ****ing sick of it. How often is this supposed to happen?

Quick back of the envelope math says it should happen about 2.43% of the time at a six max table given that you have KK. So about once every 40 times you have KK.

I can check my database later tonight, but I don't think it has been out of line. And I can calculate how unlikely your exact experience has been, but it is not likely to be significantly out of line.

Alright, I don't have any real money pokerstars hands. I am not allowed to play real money there, thanks to my location. I do have some play money hands, but it is not a significant sample size. Still, I don't see more KK vs AA hands than I expect.

Now, in 2000 hands, you probably had 9 (+/- 3) KK hands. The odds of running into AA three times ranges from 3700:1 to 375:1. The more KK hands you have, the more likely the odds that you run into it. That might seem like a really unusual circumstance, but it would be odd if people didn't have this happen to them from time to time.

Edit: Of the times I had KK (91 times), I ran into AA twice. That's pretty spot on. Although, I am running really bad when it comes to getting kings. I should have had them 107 times. That's about 1.5 standard deviations away from normal. I have had 105 pairs of AA, so just a hair shy of the expected amount there.

AA is stronger than KK.
However, AA is a pair.
Therefore, it´s possibility to be turnovered.

only 2000 hands? sorry but this does not mean anything. play a few million hands there and then come back here and tell us again what sick runouts you have seen during that play. and trust me: there will be a lot and insane sickness but thats just the game.

Brain remembers more easily the bad outcomes. But overall, on the long run, you'll get KK vs AA just as often as KK vs QQ. Just emphase on the good when it happens.

My hand count over 78991 hands on Stars: only 1 hand has below expected frequency.

It is supposed to happen roughly every 8.000 hands or so in 6-max. Of course an occurence of 3 means absolutely nothing. This is no different from the cases, where for instance 3 unusually cold winters happen back to back in a certain region. I have a pretty large sample on Stars, but its not easy to perform this kind of check in PT4. As far as I know, you can only do it manually, which would take me quite a lot of time. Also there might be hands, that dont show up, because somehow the hand did not go to showdown.

jimmiandersen said:

Does anyone here with a large database have stats on how often they are dealt kings while someone else has aces in NL 6 max cash games. It happened to me 3 times in about 2000 hands and I am ****ing sick of it. How often is this supposed to happen?

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3 times in 2000 hands and you're sick of it? ..

it is quite rare, but it can happen.

Follow the game .. GG

In the last 2 weeks I have been dealt AA and got it all in against QQ 3 times and lost all 3 times.

gryllz_wins said:

In the last 2 weeks I have been dealt AA and got it all in against QQ 3 times and lost all 3 times.

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Me too. Actually i deal with QQ vs AA more than KK vs AA pf. I must say i'm pretty afraid when i get QQ, is a strange hand to play. I have the same feeling when i get JJ.:icon_porc

Nobody wants to listen but I've been saying it often. Since poker rooms closed due to Covid Pokerstars has been awful. Aces have hit every single flop accept for the 2 hands I had them. I have KK, sure enough an Ace would hit the flop. I had any middle pocket pair an ace, king, or both hit the flop every single time.

I had AQ preflop and go all in someone calls with 4-6 off and rivers a 6 to win. Who goes all in with 4-6 off suit 9000 chips in a $20 bounty unless they know they are going to hit? The site is so fishy it's sick. I can list many options.

How about the quads? Seeing quads 3-4 times in one tournament is not normal. You want to say they use a "random card generator" if it's random why is an ace hitting 8 boards out of 10? That isn't normal.

I think these things are inevitable. It's like fate. Perhaps the same thing is happening everywhere. Do you see the problem of kings versus aces in other poker rooms so often?

I think online poker has it's own algorithms based on player stats. I am loosing anytime when reaching final tables with AA,KK,QQ,AK,JJ

paintedbynumbers said:

Nobody wants to listen but I've been saying it often. Since poker rooms closed due to Covid Pokerstars has been awful. Aces have hit every single flop accept for the 2 hands I had them. I have KK, sure enough an Ace would hit the flop. I had any middle pocket pair an ace, king, or both hit the flop every single time.

I had AQ preflop and go all in someone calls with 4-6 off and rivers a 6 to win. Who goes all in with 4-6 off suit 9000 chips in a $20 bounty unless they know they are going to hit? The site is so fishy it's sick. I can list many options.

How about the quads? Seeing quads 3-4 times in one tournament is not normal. You want to say they use a "random card generator" if it's random why is an ace hitting 8 boards out of 10? That isn't normal.

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Who goes all in with AQ? Certainly not me. Even an AK all in from me is rare.

paintedbynumbers said:

Nobody wants to listen but I've been saying it often. Since poker rooms closed due to Covid Pokerstars has been awful. Aces have hit every single flop accept for the 2 hands I had them. I have KK, sure enough an Ace would hit the flop. I had any middle pocket pair an ace, king, or both hit the flop every single time.
...every single time? really? so, over a decent sample size since poker rooms closed, you can prove an ace hit the flop every time except for the 2 hands you played? out of 100 hands, that's an an ace hitting 98% of the time instead of the normal 33.3%.

not calling you a liar, but i'm 100% sure you are lying.

I had AQ preflop and go all in someone calls with 4-6 off and rivers a 6 to win. Who goes all in with 4-6 off suit 9000 chips in a $20 bounty unless they know they are going to hit? The site is so fishy it's sick. I can list many options.
...what are blinds? it is a bounty, so play is a lot looser but also, why are you upset about getting called with 46? would you be complaining about it if you won the hand? if not, why?
How about the quads? Seeing quads 3-4 times in one tournament is not normal. You want to say they use a "random card generator" if it's random why is an ace hitting 8 boards out of 10? That isn't normal.
...i agree, seeing quads 3-4x in one mtt is very rare, but how many thousands of hands or even hundreds of thousands hands have you played before you saw this and how many hundreds of thousands of hands will you play before you see this happen again? the odds of flopping quads is .2%, so in 1k hands, you can expect to see it happen at least 2 times. which may or may not happen but over a large enough sample size, that'll be the average. when you're dealing with something that is random, you're going to deal different situations that might not seem like the norm but perfectly are. seeing quads 3-4 times in one mtt isn't a regular occurance, but it doesn't mean it wont happen.

as far as an ace hitting 8/10 times, that's just a small sample size. flip a coin 10 times, and does it always land 5x for both sides equally? roll a 6 sided dice 6 times. do you get a different number with each roll?

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jimmiandersen said:

Does anyone here with a large database have stats on how often they are dealt kings while someone else has aces in NL 6 max cash games. It happened to me 3 times in about 2000 hands and I am ****ing sick of it. How often is this supposed to happen?

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The chance that you will get KK in the hand of 221 to 1 - 0.4% for the fact that you will see two kings in the starting hand. The likelihood that the opponent will receive in the starting hand a pair of AA - 221-1, but here it is worth taking into account the two kings.

been in the $10 bounty started at 3 pm so in 33 mins I have seen quads twice at the same table. Again, this is ridiculous. Second tournament in 3 days where I've seen quads multiple times in a 30-45 min span.

Unfortunately, this is poker, and this often happens for everyone.

Don't waste time calculating such statistics, this knowledge will not improve your game in any way, it is better to use your time usefully.

Online poker is not rigged. The sites already make enough money from rake.

This is poker and that's fine! AA vs KK is a classic

One more time. So twice in 2524 hands.

I busted a Cardschat Freeroll recently at the final 4 with KK < AA. Unfortunate spot but all you can do is be glad you were dealt Kings and were unlucky. Onto the next game. RINSE AND REPEAT.