I triple my money and then donk it off......

Freakakanus · Dec 19, 2006

The question is what do you do after you have made 2x your buy-in at a ring game?
Everytime I accomplish this, I seem to donk it all off in a couple hands trying to bully the table around.
Should I leave the table no matter what? I want to stay and really get a bankroll going but when I get the big stack everyone takes shots at me and I usually go along for the ride.
I try to play tight but its tough when everytime you 3x raise the BB everyone jumps all-in or folds to you. Seems like I'm more willing to take risks when I'm shory stacked.
I hemmorage when I am big stacked.
This is a rambling post because I'm playing at the same time (a no-no for sure)
If you get the jist of this post please tell me what you do, sorry if this is a old topic as well.

Egon Towst · Dec 19, 2006

Personally, I always leave the table once I double my buyin. It`s a mistake to get greedy.

In order to avoid offending other players by jumping ship the second I win their money, I will play one more round of blinds before leaving, but during that time I`ll be very tight and not take risks.

If I want to play some more, I`ll start again at another table at the original buyin level.

Oh, and yes, it`s a bad idea to post here while playing. It`s cost me a small fortune.

bubbasbestbabe · Dec 19, 2006

Egon pretty much hits the nail on the head. Except for offending the players. Take the money and run. I could care less about offending them. If they wanted to keep their money at the table they should have played better.

gord962 · Dec 19, 2006

I will stick around but remember, you just took their money by catching them making a mistake. They will be waiting for a big hand to win their chips back when they catch you making a bluff or semi-bluff. I find that when I do stick around that everyone is very cautious going into a pot with me and won't put much in unless they think they are ahead.

brutus · Dec 19, 2006

i always made the same mistake. id make good money then hang around too long. once you take their chips it becomes a bounty ring game. now i usually hang around for a couple hands then go to another table with original buyin. still have to get used to fighting the urge to think i can just click on the dealer and get right back in and start taking extra chances. also thought if i can make this much at one table then why not take the extra money i won and sit at two tables with original buyin. that didnt work out too well so sticking to one table at a time for now. and only hang out for a couple hands then take my money and run.

Stick66 · Dec 19, 2006

Freakakanus said:
The question is what do you do after you have made 2x your buy-in at a ring game?
Everytime I accomplish this, I seem to donk it all off in a couple hands trying to bully the table around.
Should I leave the table no matter what? I want to stay and really get a bankroll going but when I get the big stack everyone takes shots at me and I usually go along for the ride.
I try to play tight but its tough when everytime you 3x raise the BB everyone jumps all-in or folds to you. Seems like I'm more willing to take risks when I'm shory stacked.
I hemmorage when I am big stacked.
This is a rambling post because I'm playing at the same time (a no-no for sure)
If you get the jist of this post please tell me what you do, sorry if this is a old topic as well.

Another "it depends".

If I double up and feel like I really had to work for it and am evenly matched at that table, then I leave ahead. If I double up and think I can keep outclassing the table, I stay.

I think the key is to NOT change your game at a cash table. Play the same as when you started. It may be correct to be the bully with the big stack in tournies, but I don't think it is in cash games. Even if they take shots at you, don't change. Yes, you can put a really small stack all-in if they raised PF and you have a strong or semi-strong hand. But play normally against anyone with near half your stack or more.

I'm not an expert. It's just my opinion based on my experiences.

Sammyv1 · Dec 19, 2006

Egon Towst said:
Personally, I always leave the table once I double my buyin. It`s a mistake to get greedy.

In order to avoid offending other players by jumping ship the second I win their money, I will play one more round of blinds before leaving, but during that time I`ll be very tight and not take risks.

If I want to play some more, I`ll start again at another table at the original buyin level.

Oh, and yes, it`s a bad idea to post here while playing. It`s cost me a small fortune.

I play it like Egon also.

I do not understand this though:
"Oh, and yes, it`s a bad idea to post here while playing. It`s cost me a small fortune."

Explain Egon?

Egon Towst · Dec 20, 2006

Sammyv1 said:
Explain Egon?

I often have CC open while playing at the tables. Sometimes, if I`m composing a post and my attention is on that, rather than on the game, I`ll make a bad decision. The most common error is that I`ll call some guy`s bet when, if I`d been watching the game more closely, I`d have figured out he had me beat.

Dingodaddy23 · Dec 20, 2006

it depends on who is at the table and their stack sizes. if you think there is a player at the table who really has you outskilled and you are both really deep, no shame in leaving. on the flipside, if theres a huge fish who is also deep, i'd stay and try to bust him too.

Kenzie 96 · Dec 20, 2006

Freak, certainly not an expert at this as I don't play ring games that much, but I think Mike makes a good point about bullying the table in ring games as opposed to SNG or MTT tourneys. I personally start thinking about leaving if I increase my stack more than 50% due to the rapid change in players, exception being sitting with an obvious donk who is hell bent on giving away his money.

talkpkr2me · Dec 20, 2006

I am at the ring tables everyday and this has been my problem too,more times than I care to admit...And I think I already knew the answer was,LEAVE..but no,rarely do.

..But what if you're still winning?..If you start losing a few hands,how many or how long should you wait before you realize the table has gone cold for you and leave? BEFORE you donk it all off?

wheely5 · Dec 20, 2006

I usually will go into a room and make a few bucks and then switch rooms so noone gets a good read on me.

MrBove · Dec 20, 2006

I encounter this problem too, now when I play ring games I'm more prone to get nervous after winning a big hand and just leave after that...not sure if that is good practice, I never seem to double up my buy in before I give away all I won and end up with what I started with or lower.

Ring games frighten me.

mjdikun · Dec 20, 2006

I like to always play the same way, I've proven to myself over many 100's of thousands of hands that my style brings in the bucks. So I would just stick with whatever is working, don't change it if it's not broken.

gord962 · Dec 20, 2006

MrBove said:
I encounter this problem too, now when I play ring games I'm more prone to get nervous after winning a big hand and just leave after that...not sure if that is good practice, I never seem to double up my buy in before I give away all I won and end up with what I started with or lower.

Ring games frighten me.

What percentage of hands do you play? My experience playing ring games is most people play WAY too many hands. Keep your hand selection tight and don't switch gears when you build a big stack (like in SNG or MTT) as you will get crushed.

BKrywko1 · Dec 21, 2006

This is why I like playing limit Omaha/8 and Stud/8 - if I double my initial stack, I'm looking to get out...but if the table is running that good and I'm making good decisions, I'm sticking around for a bit longer to see if I can make a few more $$$

joosebuck · Dec 21, 2006

if you get nervous you should definetly leave. eventually you will get used to winning big pots and will be able to stay longer. if at any time you are nervous/uncomfortable you should have already left.

Freakakanus · Dec 21, 2006

MrBove said:
I encounter this problem too, now when I play ring games I'm more prone to get nervous after winning a big hand and just leave after that...not sure if that is good practice, I never seem to double up my buy in before I give away all I won and end up with what I started with or lower.

Ring games frighten me.

It's not nerves for me.......more like the fact that when I get the big stack people start opening up with .50, .60, .70 pre-flop raises and when I have the money I go ahead and call with more and more marginal hands just to see a flop. If the flop doesn't hit me...I have to fold to the next bet (usually 1/2 the opponents stack or an all-in). If the flop does hit me everyone folds if I lead out....even with a min bet.

p.s.- nice responses so far!

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