HUGE overlays at Carbon/Merge!!!

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Are people seeing the overlays in their evening GTDs????

Their 8PM MTT 5k GTD had `~15% of the prize pool as overlay, and ther 9:15 5k GTD also had almost that much...That's almost 1500 bucks in overlay for 5/10 dollar tournaments just between 2 tournaments!!!!

People on here talk about sing up bonuses and FR's worth pennies an hour while Merge is LITERALLY giving away huge money into their prize pools and building a huge weeknight GTD lineup with very big soft fields.

If you don't have a Carbon/Merge acct. and play MTTs, I have no idea what they have to do to to get your business, but they're killing it right now for the players and need to be acknowledged.
 
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Bump, anyone else been noticing these?
 
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Well I hate their big late registration, I think more than 2 hours on every mtts, but I didn't sure whats going on now. I will check that information, thanks for the info.
 
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This isn't a good thing, all that means is smaller guarantees will come soon.
 
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Are you sure you are waiting until late registration is over to check them? They have 3 hours of late registration and it eats up the overlay in most of the games I see.
 
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Donk question here, but what exactly is an overlay? Its obviously a good thing but how does it work?
 
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There is maybe an overlay, but after the very long late reg it´s gone...
 
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Donk question here, but what exactly is an overlay? Its obviously a good thing but how does it work?

It is when a guaranteed tournament does not meet the guarantee with the entries and the site has to pay the extra.

I am in the 15k gtd tonight - the overlay was huge when it started and has stayed in the thousands until the last 30 min of late registration - the overlay ended up being $70.

I would have to see a screenshot showing the overlay and that registration was closed to believe they are having huge overlays.
 
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I always wondered about the overlays, it was one of the reasons i thought there was something fishy with online poker for a long time. Guess its just bad PR.
 
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The overlays in both were POST reg. as I played fairly deep in both.

There aren't overlays in every GTD, and I am not saying as much, but there have been some great values especially in the 9pm (Cent.) GTDs as they've tried to ramp up the later deep schedule.

Unless you're in love with Blowvada (which is fine as it has it's pluses to some and cashes out), Carbon/Merge is quickly becoming the only alternative for MTTers imho.

15K Gtds on 11 dollar buying deepstacks.....that's pretty legit guys; I almost don't want anything larger unless its a Sunday tourney.
 
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BUMP!!!

Are people seeing these overlays tonight?

I don't know if they made a mistake or what, but they had duplicate tourneys and there are HUGE overlays all over the place.....

I can't believe people aren't excited about this:

81793301= 1450 dollar overlay....

81865013= 4000+++ dollar overlay!!!!

THESE ARE 10 DOLLAR TOURNAMENTS PEOPLE....THEY THROUGH IN 400 buyins...and nearly a third of the payout is an overlay!!!!

I am playing, but someone can check the rest...

THIS IS MADNESS; IF YOU PLAY MTTs get your ass on Carbon and grind.
 
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yes i saw they have the same tournaments created twice?!
 
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Yeah those produced gigantic overlays, but there have been overlay galore anyway.....it's like free money being splashed onto the pot...

The funny thing is people care more about bonus money THEY'LL NEVER COME CLOSE TO CLEARING with their micro play than these overlays, lol.
 
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BUMP!!!

Are people seeing these overlays tonight?

I don't know if they made a mistake or what, but they had duplicate tourneys and there are HUGE overlays all over the place.....

I can't believe people aren't excited about this:

81793301= 1450 dollar overlay....

81865013= 4000+++ dollar overlay!!!!

THESE ARE 10 DOLLAR TOURNAMENTS PEOPLE....THEY THROUGH IN 400 buyins...and nearly a third of the payout is an overlay!!!!

I am playing, but someone can check the rest...

THIS IS MADNESS; IF YOU PLAY MTTs get your ass on Carbon and grind.

I knew that since they increased some guarantees and extended the nightly nine increases, there had been some overlays occurring. But I had no idea they were occurring so regularly. I had taken a few days off the last few days, looks like I choose a bad time to take a break.:eek: Will be firing up some games soon and hope to take advantage of some of these overlays.:)
 
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After going months without a bank account because Bovada and chase decided they would tag team me like some sorority skank... Looks like donkey will be establishing a new bank account this weekend.... Hoping I will be able to deposit on merge with this card.. Need a site with consistent traffic (mtts and sngs) now that me and the ex had to cut ties :deal:
 
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I miss the day of bodog overlays.

The 100k would be repeatedly 20-30k short every week.
 
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I miss the day of Bodog overlays.

The 100k would be repeatedly 20-30k short every week.

Yeah, that's not sustainable at all though...insane value obviously!!!

I think the other half of the story is just how big these Merge tourney turnouts are now regularly. I mean, they're getting ~1500 players for a deep stacked 11 dollar tournament on Sundays....that's pretty damn good for post BF poker.
 
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Yeah, that's not sustainable at all though...insane value obviously!!!

I think the other half of the story is just how big these Merge tourney turnouts are now regularly. I mean, they're getting ~1500 players for a deep stacked 11 dollar tournament on Sundays....that's pretty damn good for post BF poker.

Merge aka Carbon Right?

Its def all about momentum. Like the foxwoods tourney this past weekend. $600 500k buy in. But since it got so many people on day 1a by the time Day 1c ended, it became a 1 Mil prize pool.

Once people see numbers grow, its a little domino effect and more hop it.
 
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If only they accepted the visas that all these other sites do.. I would give them a run again
 
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I know no one on here has posted in a while but I was looking at a few tournaments and I was wondering if there was a real big difference in an add on and an overlay or are they kinda like the same things? Since it looks like an overlay is a bad thing for the site, which cost the site more money, and is one better than the other for the player?
 
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I know no one on here has posted in a while but I was looking at a few tournaments and I was wondering if there was a real big difference in an add on and an overlay or are they kinda like the same things? Since it looks like an overlay is a bad thing for the site, which cost the site more money, and is one better than the other for the player?

Two totally different things. An add on is an OPTIONAL additional amount of chips provided for more money. Usually it is a totally no-brainer to take the add on and in live poker often times it is simply a way induce tipping for dealers/staff. In online rebuy tournaments it is a way to sort of split the actual buyin over the 1st hour or so often and induce shallower/more action in the 1st hour with rebuys.


An overlay is simply the site bridging the space between the actual GTD and the amount bought in. If it is huge, it isn't good for the site, but if used properly to grow fields until they meet GTDs they can be very good at expanding field sized overall. Also, small overlays can be offset completely by the gross vig. taken in by the site and simply act as an effective bonus provided by the site.....
 
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Carbonpoly $$

Carbonpoly $$ overlays are not really interesting.
 
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Carbonpoly $$ overlays are not really interesting.

Care to actually show some evidence of what fantasy you are throwing out there?

Monopoly money can't be cashed in, and people are today still cashing in Carbon balances.....

STOP LYING AND TRYING TO CAUSE PANIC OVER WAIT TIMES THAT ARE CONSISTENTLY WITHIN THEIR HISTORIC NORMS.
 
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Two totally different things. An add on is an OPTIONAL additional amount of chips provided for more money. Usually it is a totally no-brainer to take the add on and in live poker often times it is simply a way induce tipping for dealers/staff. In online rebuy tournaments it is a way to sort of split the actual buyin over the 1st hour or so often and induce shallower/more action in the 1st hour with rebuys.


An overlay is simply the site bridging the space between the actual GTD and the amount bought in. If it is huge, it isn't good for the site, but if used properly to grow fields until they meet GTDs they can be very good at expanding field sized overall. Also, small overlays can be offset completely by the gross vig. taken in by the site and simply act as an effective bonus provided by the site.....

Sorry I didn't mean an add-on, realize thats what I typed but, I meant the tournaments that have like 1k added, those types of tournaments.
 
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