How to Earn PokerStars FPPs???

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I'm a new depositor and I'm playing plenty of raked hands, but only at the really low limit tables. From what I can tell, it looks like I'll never earn any FPPs.
Are there any tips for how to earn points? I'd like to earn enough to get my deposit bonus.:joyman:
 
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Cash games are the best option but can also be expensive if you lose :(

Have you tried sit and goes (SNG) as they also are worth points and you only have to pay for the game - and if you place in the top 3 you win $$ :)

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FPPs are not for small time players

Just forget the FPPs on poker stars, I mean, once or twice a day I play 4 to 8 sitngoes at some of the smaller stakes. I therefor invest around 9-18$ and around 1.5$ is in rake +-.

On a year thats around 1000FPP +-. I have contributed with around 3-400$ in rake. And that will give me a caps and maybe an entry into a 500$ freeroll. If you are a small time player like me, you might just forget it.

If you want more FPP, you must play at higher levels. Poker Stars are great for big players but for us amateurs its less than nothing.

They have recently started with a reward system on sitngo play, you might wanna check it out as they are also rewarding us small time players...
 
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I'm a new depositor and I'm playing plenty of raked hands, but only at the really low limit tables. From what I can tell, it looks like I'll never earn any FPPs.
Are there any tips for how to earn points? I'd like to earn enough to get my deposit bonus.:joyman:

I think it requires about an $8 pot to create enough rake to earn one FPP. Last year when I was grinding to get my bonus I averaged about 5 FPPs for every 80 hands or so at $10NL tables. It's pretty unusual to get $8 pots at any lower stakes.
 
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I think you get partial FPPs on the smaller stakes, but regardless it will take forever. I would say with a super small BR, to try STT SAGs. I think you get 1 FPP for the $1 ones. If you multi-table those, is probably your best bet.
 
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I don't think you get partial FPP's.
You get one point for am $8 pot ($.40 in rake), and those don't come up too often at the $.01/$.02 tables.

My advice is to not worry about the FPP's for now. Work on building up your bankroll. Once you get to the $.05/$.10 you'll start to collect a few points. Then when you move up to $.10/$.25 you'll get more.

You have plenty of time to collect your bonus. Worry about the points until you have a month left, and a bankroll to play with. Hopefully by then you can play several tables at once, at a level where collecting points does not totally suck.

What was your deposit, and maybe we can suggest something more specific?
 
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Like others have said, collecting FPPs at any level below 25NL is extremely slow
 
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my suggestion is to not worry about your fpp's right now, worry about your br, then once you can play 25nl, 50nl, youll be bringing in some good point thus ending your problem
 
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Thanks everyone for all the good tips and advice (Cardschat rules!!!).

I deposited $50 and I started playing the low limit tables but I got a bit bored (and greedy). Last night I went to the .5/1 tables and lost $20 in about 30 min. No big deal, but I think I'll go back to the small tables and work on building my BR and increasing my patience:rolleyes:.

Anyway, thanks for the advice about the sit'n'go tables. I'll give those a try too.
 
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i started on pokerstars on the 28th of feb and so far have 433 fpp's so im only 70 points away from the bonus :), i usually play sng or 2 cent holdem, but sometimes enter a tourney and there is even a tourny u can enter that if u win you get 4000 fpp's, not sure if they count towards your bonus though
 
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Thanks everyone for all the good tips and advice (Cardschat rules!!!).

I deposited $50 and I started playing the low limit tables but I got a bit bored (and greedy). Last night I went to the .5/1 tables and lost $20 in about 30 min. No big deal, but I think I'll go back to the small tables and work on building my BR and increasing my patience:rolleyes:.

Anyway, thanks for the advice about the sit'n'go tables. I'll give those a try too.

jman please use bank roll magement to sustain a br and not go broke, if you do not understan what im talking about please use the search option on CardsChat to search Keywords......"Bank Roll Management"
 
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The thing about SnG's is that in the Tourney Details you can find out exactly how many fpp's will be earned before you enter the game.

Might I suggest the $2+.2 36 seat sats to the Sunday 100K game? (Take my hint hint and give them a look!;))
 
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I deposited $50 and I started playing the low limit tables but I got a bit bored (and greedy). Last night I went to the .5/1 tables and lost $20 in about 30 min.

So now you deposited $50 and need 500 FPP's for your 100% match bonus? Even with $30 now, that's doable.

I started with $12 in July. Built it to just over $50 and then donked just about all of it off in a day. In September (looks like Sept 24) I deposited $50 and was at about 1,000 FPP's for New Years.

First off, don't chase the FPP's. They will come to you. You do not want to sacrifice profit for FPP's. That's a mistake a lot of people make. Who cares if you get the $50 but would have had $150 more had you not been chasing points? And I'm sure you're have a better time if you're playing for a better win rate rather than for FPP's.
Build your bankroll, move up in limits, and they will come. ("Build it and they will come.")

Second, stay in in your budget. This is just a standard poker/bankroll rule. With $30 you need to be playing the lowest levels. Play the $.01/$.02 ring games and the $1.10 or $1.20 S&G's.

Third, don't get frustrated. Building bankroll is a slow process at first. The rake is killer at the micro limits. $1 + $.20? And and getting the 1 FPP for the $8 pot is a rarity at the $.01/$.02 tables. When you finally get to the $.10/$.25 tables the points will fall into your lap.
Getting frustrated also covers steaming. When I first started out I made the mistake of trying to "catch up" to where I was. If I lost $5 I wasn't happy until I made that $5 back. It almost always effected my game and made me win less.

If you're good at S&G's then play them, as they are a consistent way of getting points. You're guaranteed at least one FPP per S&G. Average 3 a day for six months and you'll be at 500.

I'm primarily a ring game player, so I'll concentrate on that.

#1 Pick your table(s) wisely. I arrange the games by pot size. Then I go down the list until I find games at my level with a high see-the-flop percentage. Basically your #1 priority is to get at a table where people are too loose. The #2 priority is pot size.

With $30, hit the $.01/$.02 tables. TAG play is the key to these games. Play tight and aggressive. No limping!
When you're in a pot, you're raising to $.07. Maybe more if people are calling that. You want reluctant callers that can be scared off with a continuation bet.

Play your position. A/T isn't playable UTG. A/T is a raise in the cutoff. A lot of these loser limit players don't understand the value of position. I like the 6-max tables because I get to be in position more often, *and* 6-max has more action, so it attracts wilder players. IE, I get more of the people I like to exploit, and I get to exploit them more often.

Don't bluff people who are too dumb to know when they're beat. I mean, you should make a continuation bet just about all the time, assuming one or two callers, but if you get called and have nothing you need to bail. Having someone call down your bluff and then showing their middle pair with top kicker is sick.

Use PokerTracker. It keeps you accountable for your actions, and you can use it to find leaks in your game. Again, your goal is to improve your game/bankroll and move up, not collect FPP's.

Post your questionable hands on this forum for analysis. Like any other forum you'll get some good and some not-so-good advice, but it's not too hard separating the wheat from the chaff.

Keep learning. This forum has a plethora of advice. Check out the videos in the video section, and read other hand analysis's. You'll find yourself in a lot of those same situations, and it's better to learn from someone else's mistakes than your own.

Moving up: Bankroll management is incredibly important. You don't want a cold spell to knock you out. The general rule is to have 20 buy-ins the level you're playing. However, this can be manipulated as long as you're willing to move down quickly if things aren't going your way.
I bought in for $50 and hit a mental block at $70 when I'd get lazy/careless/complacent for a big loss, then grind back with solid play for a profit. I realized that playing with a profit made me complacent, as there no sting to losing money I hadn't deposited.
At that point I decided to dedicate $20 of my profit to the $.05/$.10 games. If I lost that, I'd drop back down to the $.01/$.02 games and not return to the higher limits until I had $25 profit. Then I'd dedicate $20 of that to the $.05/$.10 game (leaving me $5 profit) and drop down if I lost it.
Fortunately the higher limit kicked me in gear and I kept winning. Then I learned an error in my betting pattern that increased my win rate substantially (I was betting too little).

I did the same thing when I moved to $.10/$.25. I decided that when I hit $300 I'd dedicate $50 to the $.10/$.25 tables, but I got that too quickly and kept postponing the move until I felt I was ready. I eventually just set the move date to New Years, which worked out well.

I'm well bankrolled for the $.25/$.50 tables by anybody's standards, but I have a new laptop and things are a little hectic (new laptop, new dog, etc.) so I'm waiting until I have some off-table consistence before moving up. I think my daughter's birthday next month is a good starting point.
But the important thing is that I'm playing by the rules I set for myself.
 
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Thanks everyone for your help. There is a lot of good advice in there. I think I need to spend some time reading about bank roll management.
 
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I have found the same thing to be true w/ FPP's. I have played a bunch of lower stakes SNG's and my FPP is very low. bodog and Full Tilt have better bonus point systems.
 
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limit holdem

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Lots of money and FPP's to be made at $1-$2 LHE if you can stand the beats you'll likely get (and can fund the game of course).

I had about 200 fpp's over the course of 6 months from playing 1c/2c and $1.20 sng's, but since I moved to $25nl I've gotten up to 500 in less than a week. As others have said, don't worry about FPP's until you reach at least $25nl
 
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Try the small sit n go
Otherwise don't try higher cash games as it may be risky losing all your money before getting your bonus.
And don't forget a bonus is just a rakeback on the fees you pay to the room so focuse only on your game!
 
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FPPs are mostly worthless 1.5 cent pieces. However I figure if I'm gonna be playing and I get the same 5% rake no matter where I go I might as well get something a little extra. If you are "qualified" which it does not quite seem like, try the .50 / 1 fixed limit tables, the play there is a lot less than the $1/2 tables from my experience and the money amounts aren't huge and FPPs roll through every 4-5 hands easy.
 
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I'm a new depositor and I'm playing plenty of raked hands, but only at the really low limit tables. From what I can tell, it looks like I'll never earn any FPPs.
Are there any tips for how to earn points? I'd like to earn enough to get my deposit bonus.:joyman:

This is straight from the pokerstars website.

1. Earn FPP credits for cash game play

First Frequent Player Point (FPP) is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches:
  • $0.40 for fixed limit poker games with stakes $1/$2 and lower
  • $0.40 for NL/PL poker games with blinds $1/$2 and lower
  • $0.40 for "1-on-1" poker games (this applies only to "1-on-1" tables, not to regular tables which have only two players seated)
  • $1.00 for all other games
Second FPP is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches:
  • $2.00 for all 6-max tables (this doesn't apply for games being played 6- handed at 10/9/8 player tables - just 6-max tables)
  • $3.00 for all other tables
Third FPP is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches $5.00.
2. Earn FPP credits for tournament play

Five (5) FPP credits are awarded for each $1 in tournament fees paid.
For example, playing in a poker tournament with $20 buy-in and $2 tournament fee, each player will be awarded 10 FPP credits. *Note that partial Frequent Player Points are always rounded to the nearest whole number.
In a $5 buy-in Sit & Go poker tournament with only a $0.50 fee, 3 FPP credits (instead of 2.5) will be awarded to each player who played poker in the tournament.
In a $5 buy-in 4-player Heads-Up Sit & Go poker tournament with only a $0.25 fee, 1 FPP (instead of 1.25) will be awarded to each player who played poker in the tournament.
Please note that "FreePlay" tournaments do not award FPP credits. You can play poker for fake money at our free tables, but these poker games and tournaments are not part of the PokerStars FPP program.
 
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