Originally Posted by shortstacked
If i call on the river and lose and decide to muck they can still see it in the hand history. Why? What is the point of the muck? I think this is bogus. Please enlighten me.
Technically, in live game rules, any player may ask to see a mucked shown-down hand. However, it is extremely bad etiquette to ask to see them and is rarely ever done. But the rule is still there. If you showdown a winning hand, you could ask to see all the other hands in the showdown with you. Just be prepared to go "Jackie Chan" when you go to the parking lot to leave.
In online poker, anyone can muck a losing showdown hand in the software. But it is listed in the Hand History, most likely in an attempt to adhere to this rule. Anyone can break etiquette and view the muckers without being pummeled, not just the winner.
The only sites I know of that don't list a mucked shown-down hand in HH are Dream Poker & Poker.com. There's probably more I haven't played.