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bernotas22
Legend
Silver Level
this promotion is a waste of time for any serious player, they should instead do something like play 100x sit and go's in a day and then you get a ticket to some special tourney or something that only those who qualified get to play
BluffMeAllIn
4evrInmyheart RIP xoxo :(
Silver Level
Not exactly a waste of time, not like this promotion is going to get someone who doesn't play sng's to play them really, it will however get the people who already play them to up there volume in hopes of getting lucky enough to hit a golden sng and get that bonus bucks from it.
It's also geared toward higher levels than lower levels, in regards to for example a 15$ sng having a 15x chance compared to a 1.5$ sng of hitting a golden. So can be see why it would be so hard to hit them at lower levels although it will happen although not too often.
I think its a nice bonus to give some extra motivation to up the volume, not really doing that for me as i barely have a br there to put in volume however i have been playing a bit more on stars to build up my br while this is going on because it certainly would be a nice bonus of free money for something I'm already doing (just no luck yet, maybe today lol)
Daniel72
Legend
Bronze Level
Hit a GOLDEN Sit-and-Go last night, only played 15 x $1.50 Turbo 45mans
Was not ITM, but pokerstars refunded me 2 x the buy in ... woooo hooooo !
Was not ITM, but pokerstars refunded me 2 x the buy in ... woooo hooooo !
BluffMeAllIn
4evrInmyheart RIP xoxo :(
Silver Level
Nice, always good to see someone lucky enough to hit them.
BluffMeAllIn
4evrInmyheart RIP xoxo :(
Silver Level
Yeah, I'd say few and far between probably that we are going to hit any or many. Played about 15 or so Fifty50's on there last night with no luck on a golden one, granted I have finally been able to run decent in these so slowely building on a tini tiny br lol.
I mean what better way to start a Fifty50 then being golden and getting double your money right of the getgo haha. May we all start running into golden sng's whereever we may be.
I mean what better way to start a Fifty50 then being golden and getting double your money right of the getgo haha. May we all start running into golden sng's whereever we may be.
BluffMeAllIn
4evrInmyheart RIP xoxo :(
Silver Level
I kinda get a kick out of that type of question "are they profitable", how is anything not profitable if you are a winning player at it? In fact 45man are probably one of the most profitable mtt sng's because they have lower varience than large fields and you can grind huge volume's on pstars as they fill-up in no time, at least at limits i'v looked at (being the <2 but imagine its probably the same going up the limits as its a very popular game).
Just my thought on that question, hadn't bothered to comment before as didn't pay much attention but since our pal mical has input id figure a quick rant on the "Is it profitable to grind" question was in order.
If I am mistaken and there is a game that is unprofitable to grind, by all means I would love to know and also don't imagine it would be around for long because who wants to grind something that isn't going to be profitable even if you are winning ????????????????
oh, and happy bday to a special someone out there today LOL
Just my thought on that question, hadn't bothered to comment before as didn't pay much attention but since our pal mical has input id figure a quick rant on the "Is it profitable to grind" question was in order.
If I am mistaken and there is a game that is unprofitable to grind, by all means I would love to know and also don't imagine it would be around for long because who wants to grind something that isn't going to be profitable even if you are winning ????????????????
oh, and happy bday to a special someone out there today LOL
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bernotas22
Legend
Silver Level
BluffMeAllIn,
I didn't word it correct, I was trying to understand HOW profitable they are etc. and another question how much buy in's for every level would you recommend for them? and should you have a seperate roll if you are grinding another form of poker other than SNG on the side? also based on my question of profitability I would like to include how high of variance are they? I know it was a vague question but I would assume you would of known I was not asking if they are profitable or not since if they were not why would anyone play
I didn't word it correct, I was trying to understand HOW profitable they are etc. and another question how much buy in's for every level would you recommend for them? and should you have a seperate roll if you are grinding another form of poker other than SNG on the side? also based on my question of profitability I would like to include how high of variance are they? I know it was a vague question but I would assume you would of known I was not asking if they are profitable or not since if they were not why would anyone play
BluffMeAllIn
4evrInmyheart RIP xoxo :(
Silver Level
That would make more sense, IMO the non-turbo form of the 45 man's are probably say x2 variance of a standard stt. I'd expect however still to look at a 100bi if you plan on running them multiple at a time.
I'm a little confused by what you mean on this question however:
should you have a seperate roll if you are grinding another form of poker other than SNG on the side?
Do you mean you would maintain two seperate roll's based on if you were grinding cash and sng's? I wouldn't imagine anyone is truly "grinding" both at the same time, I mean I have played both at the same time but its usually maybe a couple of tables of each with some freerolls running but even then I would expect all rules still apply in regards to go with which ever requires the higher bi for your br.
If playing 1.5 sng and have 100bi for 150$ then you are not rolled to play any higher than 5nl, and if your mixing them up that way I personally probably would stick with 2nl but it depends i guess. Usually when it comes to "grinding" your either focused on one or the other, but again I don't really have a br anywhere at the moment >38$ so I'm barely properly rolled for anything besides 2nl on that site.
I'm sure danial may have more input for you at some point perhaps, in regards to if they are grinding these or not.
I'm a little confused by what you mean on this question however:
should you have a seperate roll if you are grinding another form of poker other than SNG on the side?
Do you mean you would maintain two seperate roll's based on if you were grinding cash and sng's? I wouldn't imagine anyone is truly "grinding" both at the same time, I mean I have played both at the same time but its usually maybe a couple of tables of each with some freerolls running but even then I would expect all rules still apply in regards to go with which ever requires the higher bi for your br.
If playing 1.5 sng and have 100bi for 150$ then you are not rolled to play any higher than 5nl, and if your mixing them up that way I personally probably would stick with 2nl but it depends i guess. Usually when it comes to "grinding" your either focused on one or the other, but again I don't really have a br anywhere at the moment >38$ so I'm barely properly rolled for anything besides 2nl on that site.
I'm sure danial may have more input for you at some point perhaps, in regards to if they are grinding these or not.
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bernotas22
Legend
Silver Level
100bi wow, that seems like a lot, for cash I think that's too much for those trying to challenge themselves and move up unless of course you are a reg and consistently just grinding the money away and prefer to have 100bi or more, but I don't play much SNG's so I wouldn't have known, you think 100bi rule remains for tourney's I would imagine so but anyways what im saying is if you are trying to still move up you should probably just play where the win rate is highest so as me for example am not a SNG player I would not feel comfortable playing unless I played with a small set of bi and proved myself with that I could be profitable and then start to play with more bi afterwards, ever since I have started using pokertracker this month for the first time it makes me look at the game completely different and more logically
BluffMeAllIn
4evrInmyheart RIP xoxo :(
Silver Level
100bi can be a usual for sng, for large field mtt's many use a 200bi min br. I personaly plan to maintain a 50bi for cash if i can manage to get my roll moving in the right direction, maybe take a shot at 40bi just to be nitty on the br with it all being a challenge of brm and grinding only in the last couple of months.
I'm sure you could use maybe 20bi cash, 50bi sng, 100bi mtt rules, but do believe these are abs min brm rules to look at. Even in a standard sng varience can strike to wind up losing 5 or 10 in a row easily so just my thoughts to have a bigger br cushion for them.
If you are mixing up both at the same time and grinding multiple, I would go with the higher requirement accross the board. Just a thought that if you are playing 5nl because your rolled for it but only 1.5 sng's because those are all your rolled for in sng bi rules a 1 bi loss on the cash table just busted 3 sng bi's, and could see this easily causing tilt if not well managed.
Just my thoughts, but then again I plan to be a br nit when I finally get there with a proper roll. Right now I'm just playing to lowest of 2nl (on ftp, 38$ roll) and 1.5sng's (fifty50's to be exact on stars as had 10$, played a little cash didn't go well and have build from 6$ now up to 25$ through the Fifty50 and a scatter reg sng). It's currently working so continuing for now and hoping to get a more comfy role everywhere haha.
You mention if standardly play cash and looking to work sng's into your game, then you could always set aside say 5 or 10bi stop loss in the sng's and see how it goes. If you lose it build it back with cash and try again, rince and repeat until you have improved to build a br through sng's or obv vice versa. Shot taking (within reason obv) never hurts, as long as you don't let taking a shot be a huge impact to a br or set you on tilt in any way.
I'm sure you could use maybe 20bi cash, 50bi sng, 100bi mtt rules, but do believe these are abs min brm rules to look at. Even in a standard sng varience can strike to wind up losing 5 or 10 in a row easily so just my thoughts to have a bigger br cushion for them.
If you are mixing up both at the same time and grinding multiple, I would go with the higher requirement accross the board. Just a thought that if you are playing 5nl because your rolled for it but only 1.5 sng's because those are all your rolled for in sng bi rules a 1 bi loss on the cash table just busted 3 sng bi's, and could see this easily causing tilt if not well managed.
Just my thoughts, but then again I plan to be a br nit when I finally get there with a proper roll. Right now I'm just playing to lowest of 2nl (on ftp, 38$ roll) and 1.5sng's (fifty50's to be exact on stars as had 10$, played a little cash didn't go well and have build from 6$ now up to 25$ through the Fifty50 and a scatter reg sng). It's currently working so continuing for now and hoping to get a more comfy role everywhere haha.
You mention if standardly play cash and looking to work sng's into your game, then you could always set aside say 5 or 10bi stop loss in the sng's and see how it goes. If you lose it build it back with cash and try again, rince and repeat until you have improved to build a br through sng's or obv vice versa. Shot taking (within reason obv) never hurts, as long as you don't let taking a shot be a huge impact to a br or set you on tilt in any way.
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bernotas22
Legend
Silver Level
the overall message here I think is you gotta find out on your own what games are better, I need to see for example if 6max or full ring is better for me and take shots with brm in mind before, poker is calculated risk and not having good brm is like shoving 72 hoping for a miracle
Im reading some books particularly on the part of cash games where he floated from 20-50+ bi while building a roll on FTP of $200 into 10k pre-black friday and the funny thing is he accomplished the goal the day before black friday occured, took him 100 days exactly to accomplish, hope he gets his money!
Im reading some books particularly on the part of cash games where he floated from 20-50+ bi while building a roll on FTP of $200 into 10k pre-black friday and the funny thing is he accomplished the goal the day before black friday occured, took him 100 days exactly to accomplish, hope he gets his money!
micalupagoo
Legend
Loyaler
I used to grind the $1.50-3.50s a fair bit, some $7s too
dont think I ever had over 50bis (meaning I move up or do a few of each at the same time)
Im sure its the mtts that dwindle my roll (dont do much cash at stars)
and I build back up on SnGs
i prefer 9man turbo for the speed of them- but 18-45 stilll quick with better payouts and not as much variance as the 90-180s
Daniel and I (and others Im sure have done many stakes-even getting coached for SnGs)- you figure out the regs quickly and theres always new fish
I played 18ish since last night in under 3hrs (5-7at a time) and went from $11 to $21- and still bubbled a few. started $1.50s with under 10bis...
once you can beat the $7+ games ( or 180man smaller bi) you can see decent $$
this promo has just brought in 1000s of new fish who dont know how to play them
gonna do nothing but these til promos over
keep you updated
and@BLUFFYOU
I think the normal payout on 9man will profit you better than the fifty50s
in the long run
dont think I ever had over 50bis (meaning I move up or do a few of each at the same time)
Im sure its the mtts that dwindle my roll (dont do much cash at stars)
and I build back up on SnGs
i prefer 9man turbo for the speed of them- but 18-45 stilll quick with better payouts and not as much variance as the 90-180s
Daniel and I (and others Im sure have done many stakes-even getting coached for SnGs)- you figure out the regs quickly and theres always new fish
I played 18ish since last night in under 3hrs (5-7at a time) and went from $11 to $21- and still bubbled a few. started $1.50s with under 10bis...
once you can beat the $7+ games ( or 180man smaller bi) you can see decent $$
this promo has just brought in 1000s of new fish who dont know how to play them
gonna do nothing but these til promos over
keep you updated
and@BLUFFYOU
I think the normal payout on 9man will profit you better than the fifty50s
in the long run
Poker Orifice
Fully Tilted
Platinum Level
Why because they're more profitable than usual (more non-SNG players & fish are playing in them due to the promo)?
Or is it because Pokerstars is just handing away a bunch of free money for anyone fortunate enough to hit a golden table?
Seems like a win-win to me. Maybe I'm missing something