The Ferguson and rakeback

Hello all, just had a question pop into my head as I'm playing The Ferguson. Does this tourney affect rakeback negatively as does a freeroll? I'm sure it does not help conrtibute because there is no rake paid for this one, but since it is a buy-in tourney I's assume there should be no negative impact. Anyone know?

That is correct, it doesn't have a negative impact on rakeback. That only occurs when you spend your FTP on merchandise or to enter a tourney with cash payout.

I C. Thanks for learing that up for me Shady.

Pretty sure it doesn't... unless it has a guar. & doesn't meet it with the number of entrants?

Shady Vision said:

That is correct, it doesn't have a negative impact on rakeback. That only occurs when you spend your FTP on merchandise or to enter a tourney with cash payout.

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Pretty sure there are other things that can impact one's rakeback too.

Poker Orifice said:

Pretty sure there are other things that can impact one's rakeback too.

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True, here is the list of -rakeback things from rakebackpros.


Bonus: Any portion of a Full Tilt poker bonus, such as a deposit bonus
Player Added: If you play in a guarantee tournament that doesn't meet the guarantee based on the number of participants, full tilt poker covers the remaining cost and divides the amount of overlay by the number of participants in the tournament
Fees: Full Tilt Poker shares the cost incurred by some payment processors for depositing or withdrawing on the site with its Affiliates; while players aren’t charged for these fees, they are deducted from net revenue
Fraud: Charge backs from credit cards are deducted from net revenue
Used Points: Every time Full Tilt Points are used in the Full Tilt Store or as tournament buy-ins, $0.005 per point is deducted from net revenue
Iron man: While Full Tilt Poker doesn’t make deductions for most Iron Man store purchases, if a player purchases and earns a bonus, purchases Full Tilt Points or tournament tokens and uses them, the standard deductions apply

Thanks again guys. I already had most of what Shady said figured but was really asking what impact, if any, does a non-guarantee, non FTP tourney that takes no rake, but is also not a freeroll have on your calculated rakeback?

I'm thinking that it does not have any effect on rakeback, but was wondering knew for sure.

It's a 500 dollar guaranteed tourney. If less than 500 people enter it affects your rakeback. The overlay is generally met in the Ferguson. Last tourney 3000 people entered.

non-guaranteed tourneys have no affect, because there is no added money.

The daily dollar is one of the tourneys where the overlay isn't met and it affects your rakeback. Tho it would be an extremely small hit. It's a 10,000$ guaranteed tourney and doesn't get 10,000 people. It usually gets 8,000 people. It's also a much better tourney than the Ferguson because you're deepstacked.

coolnout said:

It's a 500 dollar guaranteed tourney. If less than 500 people enter it affects your rakeback. The overlay is generally met in the Ferguson. Last tourney 3000 people entered.

non-guaranteed tourneys have no affect, because there is no added money.

The daily dollar is one of the tourneys where the overlay isn't met and it affects your rakeback. Tho it would be an extremely small hit. It's a 10,000$ guaranteed tourney and doesn't get 10,000 people. It usually gets 8,000 people. It's also a much better tourney than the Ferguson because you're deepstacked.

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Yeah, I was in last nights Ferguson (72nd) and that's what spawned the question.

So I guess the answer I'm seeing is that if the overlay on the Ferguson is met then there is no effect on rakeback whatsoever.?

TheKAAHK said:

Yeah, I was in last nights Ferguson (72nd) and that's what spawned the question.

So I guess the answer I'm seeing is that if the overlay on the Ferguson is met then there is no effect on rakeback whatsoever.?

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correct the added prizepool is $500, the entry fee is 1$. so if 500 people enter the overlay is met. thus no rakeback hit.

when the overlay isn't met it'd be (prizepool divided by # of entries) and that would be taken out of your mgr.

TheKAAHK said:

Yeah, I was in last nights Ferguson (72nd) and that's what spawned the question.

So I guess the answer I'm seeing is that if the overlay on the Ferguson is met then there is no effect on rakeback whatsoever.?

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If it wasn't met... how much do ya figure it'd affect rakeback? It's a $1 tourney. (ie. even if you lost like 1pt (5c).. you'd have to play it every single day for a month to lose what.. a buck?