Originally Posted by ohshootmybad
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You seem to have developed some sensitivity in this area.
I said I DO NOT LIKE LOTTERIES. Read it again, more carefully this time. PEOPLE are not mentioned in that statement. Bad people? I did not say that. You did. It is the lottery
odds I do not like. I simply want the
poker sites to offer equal access to real
poker games for those of us who don't like donking our chips away with all ins and then buying another pile.
The lesson is there. Any money spent on a freeroll takes the advantage of it being free out of the equation. It reduces the value of the prizepool. Same is true for any guaranteed tournament that starts with 50% of buy ins needed to equal the guarantee. 50% is value added. When buy ins and add ons are calculated the value added can become negative. Very few games add this money to the prize pool. It is added to buy ins to offset the guarantee.
Again, you have failed to grasp the meaning of the words you read. I HATE unlimited rebuys, add ons and turbo time limits. I DO NOT hate guaranteed games. I simply ask for freezeout games with equal guaranteed prize pools. I DID NOT say anything about eliminating the guaranteed turbo rebuy add on lottery games.
Part of the math is knowing that the rebuys and addons reduce the guarantee. This is only positive for them. Not us. Value... I know exactly why, today, these games are pushed and others are over priced. Their greed. If you like the disadvantages of these games, then play them. But DON'T get irritated by those who want no part of it.
FREE is what they are. When real money is used by players to stay in them then they ARE NO LONGER free. What is hard to understand about this? DONK players who go allin over and over in the first 2 levels should be gone when they bust. Not allowed to buy in over and over again to send money to the poker site and counterfeit the chips of those who don't spend money on FREErolls . IMHO...
I really do not expect us to agree on anything. You seem pretty well convinced already that I am completely wrong. That is okay.
You should continue to follow the path that seems right to you.
The entire civilized world thought the world was flat until one man, Columbus, proved them wrong. All I ask is that I be allowed to choose my path as well. That was my message. Let me play real poker. These lotteries are MORE value for the poker sites, not the players. THAT is why there are so many of those.
Long live true freeze outs...
God bless.