Duplicate Poker...Not Smarter for sure

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have any of you tried out Duplicate poker?.. its slog is.."like poker, only smarter" lol yeah right. I played in one of their tourneys.. and my opponent sat out every hand, and i lost. i couldnt have done anything different, so its like poker.. only it sucks..lol.. what do you guys think?
 
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I like it, if you lost you played your hands poorer. You need to lose less than the opp in the same seat same position same hand. A little unfair if opp sat out but I do pretty well there which I only play for kicks occasionally.
 
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It is the perfect game for collusion. Most people either shove or fold. The software is slow and the graphics are horrible.

That said I have 50 bucks that I won for some strange reason. I cant force myself to go there and try to lose it anymore...
 
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it's one of the pokerrooms that i realy dont like its to slow to play and only chashout with cheks , realy bad for me.
 
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the slowness of the whole process really turned me off bigtime. If it was 5x faster I would think about trying it again.
 
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It is funny that you brought this up, i just receiveed an email. They wanna give me $3 free to come back and play :) But i dont think i will be taking them up on their offer. I have played on the site before when it first started. They actually gave me $10 to play. Unfortunately i didn't find the site very appealing. There was just something about it, idk....maybe it was the site layout or maybe the players, but whatever it was i didn't like it.
 
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I was one of those folks who sat out an entire match because the cards dealt to me sucked. I didn't misplay any hands, and lost nothing where as someone else panicked and lost something, so I played those hands better than my 'equivalents'
 
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Nothing wrong with folding all of the hands if the hands suck.
 
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Played it, thought it was pretty lame. Hands took forever to finish and it just didn't 'feel' right
 
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I cant lose the 50 bucks that I won there... =\
 
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Winning by folding

Well, I have not played there but am interested, however, if one can win by folding, that seems damn boring to me....won't be rushing there in the near future.

Jane
 
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i played there. don't like thier twist on poker -HE, and like everyone else said too slooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwww. they offered me money also $10., but not worth the aggravation. i wouldn't suggest it or give any good reviews, unless your bored and want to play on thier dime. :p
 
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I've written a basic strategy article for Duplicate Poker if anyone is interested...

One thing I noticed while playing again is that normal NLHE strategies will not work. The reason is you aren't just playing the person across from you or the other players at the table, you are also playing those being dealt the same cards as you. If you are playing an MTT, the way you advance into the next level is if you meet the Line Rank requirements. The Line Rank is your rank vs the other players playing the same cards as you. MTT will go onto the next round after half of the players are eliminated after a certain amount of hands. Line Rank players change during each level.

So, lets say its a 6 handed table and there are 6 players playing the same hand as you are. The session is 6 hands and in order to advance you have be in the top 3/6 Line Rank. Remember, though, you dont advance by beating your table but by outranking the players in your Line Rank. Honestly, the best strategy in this early stage is just to fold you hands unless you AA, KK, QQ. I raise big with these hands. Hands like AK or smaller pairs, I'll limp and see a board. You want to get paid for your hands because you will earn Net Total Chips (NTC). NTCs are good when you advance into the next round because A)The bigger your NTC, the higher you are in the Line Rank and B)it acts like a cushion. You can lose a small pot, but not be at a negative NTC. What this means is if your NTC is still higher then the other players in your Line Rank, then your line rank position wont change. However if you negative NTC is lower then another players, your Line Rank will drop. If your NTC exceeds less than 3x the starting stack, you are eliminated so watch out for that.

If your Line Rank is within the zone to move up the ranks, I wouldn't stress playing hand. The downfall is if other players in your Line Rank play the hand and win, you might get pushed down a rank. If you are outside of the Line Rank requirements, then you might have to play hand.

You can move up in Link Rank 2 ways: A)You win a pot and your NTC total is bigger than the other players in the Line Rank who played and won the same hand. B)Your opponents lose a hand and earn negative NTC. Its pretty much vice versa for moving down a rank.

The most important think to do while you are playing is TAKE PLAYER NOTES. This is very crucial because in the later stages because it'll be the deciding factors in how you play a hand.

Somethings to look for:
-Who likes to chase their draws
-Who will call on a draw if given proper odds
-Who will call down with any pair
-Who raises PF and with what range of hands
-Who reraises PF and with what range of hands and how much they raise
-Who folds if they dont hit the board, but will reraise if they have any pair and how much they raise
-How they play their hands PF and post flop
-ETC.

Remember you're playing the table in order to earn NTC and you're also playing those in the Line Rank to make sure you maintain or increase your position in the rankings. As a bonus, you can also see who is in your opponents Line Rank.

Hand example:

Lets say Im playing player X in a heads up game. My opponent has Player Y and Player Z in their Line Rank. I am player A and have Player B and Player C in my Line Rank. Top 2/3 will advance.

notes on X are:
-(re)Raises PF with any A, KK, QQ, JJ
-Will limp in with ATC, only cause a PFR with J high hand or better or any pair.
-Will call down with at least 2nd pair, but raises with top pair
-Does not bet out on draws
-Folds if he misses the flop

notes on Y and Z are:
-They call any PF raise
-They call with any pair
-They raise big with top pair
-They do not chase draws.

notes on B and C are:
-They raise 5x Blinds with any Ace
-They call with any pair
-They chase flush draws
-Player C bets out on draws

I am dealt Ah2h and your opponent checks. I would check it here and see a cheap flop. There is a very good chance my opponent is playing ATC and will fold if I raise. Also, I know B and C are going to raise with the exact same hand. So, if they miss and have to fold on the flop, they will have a bigger negative NTC.

The flop is 7h 2d 9h.

My opponent checks, I bet out half pot with my pair of 2s and my opponent check raises me the minimum. Now, I know my opponent has top pair with his check-raise. Now, I have to decide if I want to call or fold. Well according to my player notes, I know that players Y and Z have bet the flop big with their top pair. And I know that players B and C are going to call that bet with their flush draw. And there is a good chance that C will push all in on this flop with their draw. So, if the flush draw doesn't hit they will lose more chips and be a greater negative NTC and I will move up in ranks. As folding or calling the raise, I would call here to see if I improve on the turn. If I dont, I know the players in the Line Rank didnt improve either. So, now I can fold a turn bet and lose a lot less then my Line Rank opponents because I know they will call a turn bet chasing their draws. If they miss on the river and they do not improve their hand, I might lose the pot to my table opponent, but I will be a higher rank than my Line Rank opponents (they will have a greater negative NTC) and this is what moves me onto the next round. The downfall is the draw does hit, I might not get a lot of action from my opponent unless they have at least two pair. So, even if I do win my opponents will have won a much larger NTC and move higher in the rankings. The good news is I can use my NTC as a buffer in the next hand.

Im sure there are a lot more things and strategies I've overlooked. Please post and lets discuss.

Im starting to enjoy Duplicate Poker. I wouldnt go as far as to say its great, its just the same game with different strategy and approach.
 
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This was the most uncomfortable poker site i have ever played in. Really i didn`t like anything at all there.Most have said it, and i agree.
 
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like many of you, i guess its not that appealing to me either, I played it steady for the first while, now i have 30-50$ and I havent been there in many many months...so
 
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Its totally dependent on the activity of the other players at your table and that of your opponents table's players. If the players at your table are super tight or sitting out or your opponents fellow players are super loose, he/she is going to make more money from their hands than you....period. I played a game where every hand I got was fantastic and I made as much bank off each hand as was possible and still got beat because his tables players were just a little looser..or something. Still not sure how I got beat.
 
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I don't like this site at all, i just try it because they gave $3 to play fer free. It isn't smart at all, in most cases you win only if you get lucky because everybody is betting the pot preflop. In my opinion it is not a good site to invest your money.
 
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I agree with everyone, bad graphics, too slow...i always find sticking to the bigger rooms works better in the long run...less problems
 
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I don't like this site at all, i just try it because they gave $3 to play fer free. It isn't smart at all, in most cases you win only if you get lucky because everybody is betting the pot preflop. In my opinion it is not a good site to invest your money.

I have the need to quote myself here:D:D:D
I was right after all, they closed down the site, maybe was so obious that anyone who played there could have come to the same conclusion as i.
If you think that they gave you $3 free to play and even so there was only about 20 people playing in tournaments,and the freerolls only reached 100 players. What a surprise!!:eek:
 
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