Cut my ties to Intertops

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I like intertops. I like the customer service. I have been with them for many years, way back when they were microgaming (I think that was the name). I hated when they went to cake, but I stuck with them. Lately I have noticed that there is just no activity on the site. The SNGs have NO entries, no one waiting for a game to fill. On ring games, there was never a limit game going, or an Omaha. It began to look like a dying venture. I decided to protect my bankroll by withdrawing down to maybe $100. But Egad! the wanted to charge me $50 to withdraw my money. I certainly don't recall that they paid me $50 to deposit!! I decided that I would just withdraw the whole bankroll, rather than lose another $50 when I wanted to get the rest of my money out. I still have a small amount on Juicy, and will play any of the games there. If I ever get the balance up to $500, I will withdraw that also, and be done with this network. Charging $50 to withdraw is robbery.
 
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Intertops. I too have an account there. A good company hanging on to a dying poker network. It's a pity.
 
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Lock and Cake really hurt them. It is very expensive for rooms to process U.S. payouts, you only get one free one a month on Bovada, well I guess with Bitcoin now WPN can be cheap, but Carbon charges a 3% fee on every cash out.
 
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I have never played there i have cut down on my poker playing so do plan on ever opening an acc there
 
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Lock and Cake really hurt them. It is very expensive for rooms to process U.S. payouts, you only get one free one a month on Bovada, well I guess with Bitcoin now WPN can be cheap, but Carbon charges a 3% fee on every cash out.

I just cashed from Carbon and was not charged anything
 
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I really hope Intertops Poker doesn't become the same as Win Cake.
 
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Lock and Cake may have played a part in the downfall of Intertops, but made a lot of mistakes of their own. It did, of course, begin when they found themselves on the same network a Lock. By then, everyone was beginning to realize that Lock funds were pretty much like Monopoly money. It made sense for the other sites on the network to segregate themselves from Lock. But they also segregated themselves from each other.

This segregation meant that rather than having a combined player pool, each site had to rely on it's own, much smaller, player pool to fill it's tournaments. When sites couldn't meet the guarantees by themselves, the guarantees started dropping, and a lot of tournaments disappeared altogether. I hung in there for a while hoping that Lock would go away and segregation would be lifted. But even after Lock left the network, many sites, including Intertops, chose to stay segregated. Every once in a while, it seemed like they were starting to try to rebuild their tournament schedule, they would suddenly gut it again. What finally did it for me was when all of their straight tournaments seemed to be replaced by rebuys/add-ons, re-entries, turbos, ultra turbos or bounties or some combination of them. To me, all of these formats tend to promote outrageous play, like players shoving 73 blinds into a pot that's got 16 blinds in it to pick up a bounty. Or because it's a turbo and blinds are going up going up, even though they're only on the second level. Or because they know they buy themselves out of their horrible play when they should have been eliminated.

Of course the cash game action dried up as well, which shouldn't surprise anyone who has ever paid attention, especially while multi-tabling. Say there are four 9 seat tables going at a particular stake. If you were to observe the players at each table, you would notice that many of the players are sitting at two, three or even all four tables. That means that 36 seats might be occupied by 18 or 20 players. While on the Cake network these players might have come from across a network of up to 30 skins. For the sake of making a simple point, let's assume 20 players, let's say from 10 different skins. That's 2 players per skin. Now segregate all of the skins from each other and see what happens to their cash games.

It has been suggest that Intertops makes so much money from their sportsbook that they simply don't care about the poker site. Intertops is supposed to be part of a company that operates one of the oldest and largest sportbooks in the world, with yearly profits estimated to be in the billions. There may be some validity to that theory.

I don't know why they choose to remain segregated when Lock poker is no longer on the same network as them. It would seem that even if they chose not to invest in their poker site, the very least they could do is be part of a decent network. Whatever the reason, one of the best poker sites in the world, outside of the big two, seems to have gone to heck. I myself haven't logged onto it in about 5 months. I believe I still have about $150 there. I left it there in the hopes that Intertops might recover. More and more I'm starting to doubt that that will ever happen.
 
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I'll be taking my $ off Intertops too. Still play on there occasionally because it is so soft. Will probably wait for a deposit bonus and have one last go at it. Still haven't verified my account because it's such a pain to do.
 
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Yeah I pretty much gave up on intertop, I have around $90 to a $100 just sitting there. It been at least 6 month since I played. it's like why bother when there's no traffic.
 
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Yeah I pretty much gave up on intertop, I have around $90 to a $100 just sitting there. It been at least 6 month since I played. it's like why bother when there's no traffic.
Since it will cost you $50 to get your money, I suggest you play digh denom DONs till it gets to $500. OOps, I forgot, no traffic in the SNGs anymore.
 
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i got free $25 rolled it over 16 times a required then played poker for a little bit ran it up to $1,100 was informed max i can cash out is $250 rest is forfeited so i played poker against depositing players for the HOUSE so you depositing players played against the house at the poker table when i played no poker site should players be playing against the house
 
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