card dealing mystery

vinylspiros · Dec 10, 2012

i dont believe online poker is rigged . i trully believe and want to believe that the cards are dealt fairly. BUT i would like to ask you guys a question. does it ever seem to you that tournament dealt cards and cash game,zoom cards are a bit fishy? (esp zoom) . what do you guys think about power flops and all that stuff? u think there might be any chance that they exist and are being used? it might just be me being paranoid but i feel sometimes that there are too many HUGE hands from 2 or 3 players on the same board, more often in cash. this is something that is rather unusual to be happening too often isnt it?. any comments?
im not pointing any fingers at any site or anything. just trying to hear some opinions.... thanks guys.

WVHillbilly · Dec 10, 2012

TheKAAHK · Dec 10, 2012

In a format like Zoom and Rush, most players autofold everything but premiums. So when there is a pot, it's more often than not involving big hands. Simple.

youregoodmate · Dec 10, 2012

Its not rigged.

BLACKSTACK · Dec 10, 2012

unlike WV i too see that happening often,but mostly in fr so its not a big deal
and around 80% of the time the bigger stack will win it.

TheKAAHK · Dec 10, 2012

BLACKSTACK said:
unlike WV i too see that happening often,but mostly in fr so its not a big deal
and around 80% of the time the bigger stack will win it.

No, no it wont.

AlfieAA · Dec 10, 2012

I'm sure if there was 100 hands an hour live there would be lots of action flops too....or in zooms case 1000 hands an hour...not rigged imo

BLACKSTACK · Dec 10, 2012

TheKAAHK said:
No, no it wont.

yes,oh yes it will,maybe you dont play fr much or else you would see,do and get those type of flops,ive witnessed them WAY too many times and can actually call or fold based on previous outcomes,here a quick example
today i was playing $2nlhe i got 77 raised min another player reraised me flop comes 236 its so rigged for a player with my cards to bet luckily the other guy slows plays it til the end with pocket tens,afer a while of playing you can tell when fihy things like this happen,its not rigged i just suck but i dont think the cards are randomized i believe its more of a randomization of hands with the outcome already predetermined.

micalupagoo · Dec 10, 2012

^^^^
-1

+1 for making me lol tho

77 vs TT (and a 6 hi flop), thats gotta be what - 1 in a million? woulda been crazier if someone had an AK too (suited of coarse), and i folded my 45 ffs

you ever play live?? now thats rigged!!!

Kenzie 96 · Dec 10, 2012

Well, when you play 79 all the time ................................................

domeburglar · Dec 10, 2012

Heres a quick example last time i played i saw a hand that was dealt qq vs kk vs 10 10..... Flop comes 10q3 they all go all in.... Its gotta be rigged oh wait nvm that was live at a casino... Ya know what live play is rigged too theyre just out to get us everywhere

domeburglar · Dec 10, 2012

I never understand the rigged accusations... poker sites make money off of rake.. making big hands and knocking someone out would be -ev.. if they were gunna rig anything it would be just mediocre hand that keep everyone playing for hours and hours while they collect rake every hand.. 10 little hands of rake is better than one big hand of rake because theres a limit on rake per hand

frozensprx · Dec 10, 2012

I think the only rigged thing is your brain. You obviously will remember crazy hands like KK vs TT vs QQ on a KQT flop, but in reality for every time a cooler like that goes down, your poor little brain has already forgotten about thousands of other hands that weren't so "extraordinary". I could easily start a thread saying that the site is rigged in exactly the opposite way of whatever you think it is rigged in, and we would both remember plenty of examples that confirm our ideas and forget the many examples that completely go against it. Have a read --> http://www.sciencedaily.com/articles/c/confirmation_bias.htm

DaveE · Dec 10, 2012

vinylspiros said:
i dont believe online poker is rigged . i trully believe and want to believe that the cards are dealt fairly. BUT i would like to ask you guys a question. does it ever seem to you that tournament dealt cards and cash game,zoom cards are a bit fishy? (esp zoom) . what do you guys think about power flops and all that stuff? u think there might be any chance that they exist and are being used? it might just be me being paranoid but i feel sometimes that there are too many HUGE HANDS from 2 or 3 players on the same board, more often in cash. this is something that is rather unusual to be happening too often isnt it?. any comments?
im not pointing any fingers at any site or anything. just trying to hear some opinions.... thanks guys.

Nope.

frozensprx said:
I think the only rigged thing is your brain. You obviously will remember crazy hands like KK vs TT vs QQ on a KQT flop, but in reality for every time a cooler like that goes down, your poor little brain has already forgotten about thousands of other hands that weren't so "extraordinary". I could easily start a thread saying that the site is rigged in exactly the opposite way of whatever you think it is rigged in, and we would both remember plenty of examples that confirm our ideas and forget the many examples that completely go against it. Have a read --> http://www.sciencedaily.com/articles/c/confirmation_bias.htm

Yup.

dmorris68 · Dec 10, 2012

BLACKSTACK said:
yes,oh yes it will,maybe you dont play fr much or else you would see,do and get those type of flops,ive witnessed them WAY too many times and can actually call or fold based on previous outcomes,here a quick example
today i was playing $2nlhe i got 77 raised min another player reraised me flop comes 236 its so rigged for a player with my cards to bet luckily the other guy slows plays it til the end with pocket tens,afer a while of playing you can tell when fihy things like this happen,its not rigged i just suck but i dont think the cards are randomized i believe its more of a randomization of hands with the outcome already predetermined.

It's random. To think otherwise means you think it's rigged. Which means this discussion needs to move to the rigtard thread.

How many online hands have you played? Do you think people here don't have probably hundreds of thousands more online hands than you, at FR and otherwise, and can demonstrate from their tracker databases that the hand probabilities hold true over the long run?

spstevens · Dec 11, 2012

I play more hands in a slow night online than a mega session live so it follows I see more hands that are unusual in my online play . It is a statistical necessity and to think otherwise is ludicrous . Honestly do you think the big 1 cent 2 cent fix is in? We all remember the bad beats , pair over pair etc. but the mundane hands fade away like a lone hair on the barbershop floor , just human nature.

vinylspiros · Dec 11, 2012

Kenzie 96 said:
Well, when you play 79 all the time ................................................

lmfao hehheheheh.i see someones paying attention. it seems to me sometimes as though i get sucked out alot more incash than in tourneys.but yea,im sure its cause of the zoom so the fact that everyones playing premium is probably the reason i get this feeling.
i wanna thank everyone for their posts. i trully am a believer that online is legit and the cards are random. i think i started this thread after some really rare coincidences of huge hands showing up at the same time back to back. thanks again all for contributing.

BLACKSTACK · Dec 11, 2012

dmorris68 said:
It's random. To think otherwise means you think it's rigged. Which means this discussion needs to move to the rigtard thread.

How many online hands have you played? Do you think people here don't have probably hundreds of thousands more online hands than you, at FR and otherwise, and can demonstrate from their tracker databases that the hand probabilities hold true over the long run?

its only rigged when we loose

, i dont have a clue of hands ive played,i dont use any sort of tracker yet,im still new to all the software and as for everything ive said above in my past posts its just an OPINION and nothing more, if i really believed it was 100% rigged i would not waste my time and money in online poker.

BLACKSTACK · Dec 11, 2012

vinylspiros said:
lmfao hehheheheh.i see someones paying attention. it seems to me sometimes as though i get sucked out alot more incash than in tourneys.but yea,im sure its cause of the zoom so the fact that everyones playing premium is probably the reason i get this feeling.
i wanna thank everyone for their posts. i trully am a believer that online is legit and the cards are random. i think i started this thread after some really rare coincidences of huge hands showing up at the same time back to back. thanks again all for contributing.

you're welcome and thank you for giving me the opportunity to post my opinion here,then getting my ass handed to me by dmorris lol

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