Cake Poker - software glitch

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Interesting story if you play on Cake. I guess someone caught the software today giving the pot to the wrong hand. Support confirmed the hand happened and they're currently investigating why it happened.

The hand:

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Hi folks -
Unfortunately, at the moment, this appears to be real. What's bizarre is how it happened this one time out of the tens of millions of hands we've dealt. Needless to say, our software people have dropped everything else to track this down. I'll update you as soon as we understand what happened.

Best regards,
Lee Jones

Cake Poker Cardroom Manager
 
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The Cake software has been glitching like mad the last few weeks. I wish they'd hurry and get the new software released.

I hope junk like this doesn't start happening alot.
 
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Kings are wild, LDO.
 
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Just a side note-this has happened on other sites too-UB for one. Usually ends up as a disconnect or timing out problem. The server thinks the player folded or otherwise was out of the hand.
 
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dont reli play on the site much but shocked to see this sort of thing happen :(
 
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Possible scenario:

CakeSeat4 is short stacked and all in.
Cakeseat6 wins the $5.36 Sidepot.
CakeSeat4 is about to win the $0.36 main bot
 
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That seems like the answer Wobble because seat4 has 100% seat6 0%
 
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is cake the best site for bonuses and bigger tourneys or sattys to them, wanted to open an account there but after hearing this I am thinking twice. I know there are multiple skins
 
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Possible scenario:

CakeSeat4 is short stacked and all in.
Cakeseat6 wins the $5.36 Sidepot.
CakeSeat4 is about to win the $0.36 main bot


Uhm...then who is the other player that was inolved in the side pot with seat 6?
 
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I just heard from "Rake the Rake" that Players Only is moving from the Cake network to the Merge network within 3 months. I doubt this glitch has anything to do with it, but.....
 
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I just heard from "Rake the Rake" that Players Only is moving from the Cake network to the Merge network within 3 months. I doubt this glitch has anything to do with it, but.....


Side question...I'm actually looking for a good RB affiliate for my next account...how is Rake the Rake? Are they reliable? Do they calculate the rake correctly? Do they pay on time and can you cash out often?
 
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Yikes, that's not good.

I play at Cake ATM so I will keep a closer eye when I get to showdown.
 
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Side question...I'm actually looking for a good RB affiliate for my next account...how is Rake the Rake? Are they reliable? Do they calculate the rake correctly? Do they pay on time and can you cash out often?


I'm not with RakeTheRake, but a friend of mine uses them at Players Only. He's had to remind them to put his monthly rake chase money into his account once or twice, but they seem fairly reliable other than that.

You might want to check out This Is The Nuts. It seems like I remember them having better rake races.
 
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rakethrake and rakebackpros have been the most professional imop. I've had no problems with either paying rake or rake races
 
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cake poker ships pot to the loser

There was a lot of hand wringing at Cake Poker Network headquarters last week as one of an online poker room's worst nightmares came true: a pot was shipped to the wrong player. Fortunately, thanks to the professionalism of Cake's Card Room Manager, Lee Jones, and the programming staff, the issue was resolved in just over a day.

The hand that sent poker message boards into a frenzy was played at 2:30pm ET on February 3rd at "Rome 15025", a six-handed $0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em table. Two players, 'dimondidenko' and 'd0nkeyk0ng9' ended up all-in pre-flop, the former with Kd Kh, the latter with Ah Qh. After the river card was dealt, there were four hearts on the board, giving d0nkeyk0ng9 the best hand with an Ace-high flush versus his opponent's King-high flush. To everyone’s shock, however, this suckout did not result in d0nkeyk0ng9 winning the hand. Instead, dimondidenko was shipped the $5.36 pot.

Within fifteen minutes, one of the other players in the hand posted both a screenshot of the Cake Poker hand history and the end result from his Hold'em Manager replayer on the Two Plus Two poker forum. The majority of reactions were very negative, with many players vowing to withdraw their funds from Cake Poker or other sites on the network. There were some voices of reason who urged patience, but, as is common on the internet, overreactions abounded.

Within a couple hours, Lee Jones confirmed that the error did happen and that an investigation as to what occurred was the software team's number one priority. That night, Cake paused its servers to install some additional logging code in an effort to catch any possible reoccurrences of the problem. The following afternoon, he also promised that Cake would pay anyone $500 if they had evidence that they were not awarded a pot that they should have been in the past.

Just a few hours after that promise, and only about 26 hours after the hand in question, Jones announced that the software team had figured out what happened. Rather than trying to explain it ourselves, we will let him do the talking:

"During the hand in question, there was a player who had missed the blinds and been asked to post a dead blind in the cutoff. He didn't, but somehow there was a perfectly timed lag between the client and the server that caused him to have a "Fold" button presented (though he may or may not have seen it). Probably unknowingly, he clicked a non-existent "Fold" button, which went through to the server. The server has code built in to protect it from extraneous messages such as this (including malicious intent from hacked clients). But it turned out that it didn't have that protection from a dead blind-posting player if the message was something that shouldn't have been coming in anyway (e.g. a "Fold" from somebody who shouldn't be allowed to fold in the first place)."

"The result of all this was for the system to believe that it had a side-pot between the sitting-out player and the small blind (the guy with the kings). It evaluated that pot, awarded that pot to the small blind, and then had no more pots to award, so it ended the hand."

Put simply, a one-in-a-billion (or more) glitch occurred that made the poker system think that dimondidenko was going up against the sitting-out player, which resulted in dimondidenko winning with what was actually the second best hand.

Lee Jones assured everyone that the code had been fixed and was being tested and that they did not expect anything like that to happen again, nor do they think that anything like that had ever happened before. In addition to the earlier $500 offer, Jones said that Cake Poker will be giving d0nkeyk0ng9 $500, the player who reported the error $250, and the rest of the players at the table an equal share of $250.

Interestingly, while extremely rare, an incorrectly awarded pot is not unprecedented in online poker. In December 2008, Phil Hellmuth, of all people, was shipped a $5,599 pot on UltimateBet.com (now UB.com), when he only had a pair of 2's versus his opponent's trip kings. This created even more of an uproar, considering the size of the pot and the fact that Hellmuth, along with Annie Duke, is the primary spokesperson for UB. That error was determined to have been caused by Hellmuth's opponent momentarily disconnecting at the exact point when the pot was being awarded, combined with "the 'player's state' data being cleared from memory cache." Unfortunately, as a result of fixing the error, UB caused another error which caused 36 more pots to be shipped to the wrong player. That problem was fixed quickly and there have been no known similar problems since.

Source: TightPoker.com
 
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And this is why I have never played on Cake, I've thought about it but this is really bad. Hopefully they fix this for good and if their site gets better, ill start playing on it!
 
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Mistakes/glitches can happpen. It is great they resolved it so quickly and found what caused the glitch.
Computers are not perfect.
 
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First I've heard of this - great that it was sorted so quickly and seemigly transparently.
 
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kudos to cake poker, for raising their hands and admitting the error upfront. the $250 cash musta been sweet for those players too, lol. at .02/.04, $250/6 = $40ish, 1000bbs!
 
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Way to step up to the plate. Mistakes can and will always happen. It's what happens after a mistake that gives integrity to the ones making the error.
 
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Makes me hesitant to make a deposit, Although I do understand that mistakes can happen, What I was wondering was did the actual winner of the hand get compensated?
 
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Makes me hesitant to make a deposit, Although I do understand that mistakes can happen, What I was wondering was did the actual winner of the hand get compensated?

Yes, I believe the player was compensated and given a nice little bonus. Lee Jones also offered money ($500, I think) to anyone else who might possibly encounter this glitch.
 
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man, this crap just happened to me!!!! how do i upload the hand histor and i will show you!!!!!
 
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