Bovada Case Study Opinions

#1 16th July 2016, 11:08 PM

I keep looking all over the place and havnt seen anyone talk about this case study so I figured I would share it and see what you guys think.... Bovada sucks me out all the time and I find these stats very easy to believe.
https://medium.com/@dataminepoker/re...c41#.xz5lqjiji

#2 17th July 2016, 2:13 AM

Bovada is illegitimate for sure.

#3 2nd August 2016, 8:47 PM

Wow. That was fascinating. I wish I could fully comprehend everything they did, but if their conclusions are true...I would probably never be able to trust another online poker site again.

#4 3rd August 2016, 12:47 AM

Think I've read this before, but doesn't surprise me one bit.. Could only imagine how many "real" people win those big tourneys they host..

#5 3rd August 2016, 10:21 PM

I wish they would share the big hand formula to me

#6 4th August 2016, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by Micro Maven

I wish they would share the big hand formula to me

They gave u a potential theory to test in the article I believe..

#7 4th August 2016, 1:02 AM

No wonder it is harder for me to make money on Bovada than other sites...sigh.

#8 6th August 2016, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by donkcentralFF

They gave u a potential theory to test in the article I believe..

If only I knew how to hack programming languages and my browser and how to track/store all the hand info I don't even know how to track my own hands

#9 6th August 2016, 9:17 AM

Not sure how I feel about this or whether I should believe it.

I was going to switch to bet online last week, but I cant get the client to connect

#10 6th August 2016, 9:47 AM

Originally Posted by mbrenneman0

Not sure how I feel about this or whether I should believe it.

I was going to switch to bet online last week, but I cant get the client to connect

Just be careful with bet online. My own fault but I can never cash out there from all the betting bonuses I used rofl

#11 6th August 2016, 9:55 AM

Originally Posted by ThAntiEggroll

Just be careful with bet online. My own fault but I can never cash out there from all the betting bonuses I used rofl

what do you mean? you mean you have to roll over your bonus before you cashout or...?

#12 6th August 2016, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by mbrenneman0

what do you mean? you mean you have to roll over your bonus before you cashout or...?

Yeah. I know that's how it works on all sites but I have some absurd amount of roll over I'd have to bet before ever cashing out

#13 6th August 2016, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by ThAntiEggroll

Yeah. I know that's how it works on all sites but I have some absurd amount of roll over I'd have to bet before ever cashing out

cant you forfeit your bonuses so you dont have to rollover?

#14 6th August 2016, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by mbrenneman0

cant you forfeit your bonuses so you dont have to rollover?

Oh I bet them already years ago before realizing how bad it was lol

#15 8th August 2016, 10:12 PM

Bovada made me feel like the worst player in the world. My same exact strategy anywhere else has me being a winning player. Not hugely so, but I consistently win at small stakes cash and place in the money in a large percentage of micro tournys.

Bovada--and I will just call it badluck since I refuse to call foul when I dont see it myself, I have had runs that defy probability.

#16 8th August 2016, 11:10 PM

This is bogus and has been debunked on 2+2 many times. Shameless plug to drive traffic for their site. Disgraceful really to make up stuff to promote your own product at the expensive of others. 2+2 removed most of the links after researching is because they concluded it was bogus. You can see one of the links here:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip-sponsored-online-poker-report/article-saying-bovada-unfair-cardroom-1566462/?highlight=dataminepoker

Sigh...

It's all riggggged... I swear it is because I lose!

I've been a winning player on there for over 10 years at just about every stake level. I guess I just somehow avoided the rigging. lol

#17 8th August 2016, 11:18 PM

And FYI, I'd move a mod to ban OP. They are coming in here (probably from ACR or somewhere) and posting up BS about bovada on the forum. It's literally their only posts:

https://www.cardschat.com/search.php?searchid=3398477

And to the posters above... always take what you read on the internet w/ a grain of salt and do some fallacy recognition on any report you read.

#18 8th August 2016, 11:30 PM

i saw that awhile back not sure what to think about it, but i would definitly use caution although ive binked first place a few times on there site for some hefty amounts so idk.

#19 9th August 2016, 12:10 AM

If you play clash on ACR it is absolutely terrible, you can't even find one recreational a table, 5nl on there is probably the same as 100nl on Bovada.

#20 9th August 2016, 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by John A

This is bogus and has been debunked on 2+2 many times. Shameless plug to drive traffic for their site. Disgraceful really to make up stuff to promote your own product at the expensive of others. 2+2 removed most of the links after researching is because they concluded it was bogus. You can see one of the links here:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip-sponsored-online-poker-report/article-saying-bovada-unfair-cardroom-1566462/?highlight=dataminepoker

Sigh...

It's all riggggged... I swear it is because I lose!

I've been a winning player on there for over 10 years at just about every stake level. I guess I just somehow avoided the rigging. lol

I dont see in that link where it debunks it, just members posting there thoughts on it

#21 9th August 2016, 7:13 AM

Originally Posted by supernuts25

I dont see in that link where it debunks it, just members posting there thoughts on it

A lot of top players pointed out countless fallacies in their article, along with the mod who removed the link, who is a lawyer and a pretty fair person. He called it a shady article. Why? Because it's anonymous, talking about an anonymous site and plugging ACR at the same time (with affiliate links to ACR). Hmmm... wonder what's going on here?

I don't think we need to call Sherlock Holmes in.

#22 10th August 2016, 2:33 AM

I've noticed so many problems with bovada, I just don't trust them. They have to use crazy algorithms

#23 23rd August 2016, 3:33 AM

Bet online is just as crooked

#24 23rd August 2016, 12:47 PM

There's no way an illegal, offshore online Indian casino would consider cheating for profit. They're in the business to make people happy, not to enrich themselves.

#25 23rd August 2016, 6:19 PM

Funny... but they are in a businesses to maintain their business. Having rigged systems or cheating doesn't bode well for long term business. Bodog has been in this business a very long time.

Bovada is not rigged. If you lose, it because you're not playing well.

I've played on there for over 10 years. I've cashed out hundreds of thousands. That wouldn't happen with the million+ hands I've played on there if it was rigged. I doubt I'm some major anomaly not susceptible to their rigged system.

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