Originally Posted by hawkeye3791
Can someone explain to me the reason for anonymous players? Who is this protecting? How does this protect the integrity of the game?
In my opinion, and I’ve probably deposited only several hundred dollars over the past 2 months, it seems many an opposing player has hit their 10:1 or better on the river. It seems to happen to me each time I play and I do consider myself a fairly decent player.
I take these bad beats in stride for I believe you aren’t playing good poker unless you succumb to these at times, but every time? Really?
This has led me to be suspicious of this anonymous player scheme. Now I’m not one of those conspiracy theorists but it does seem that these un-kown players could actually be shills- Bovada created players to create action and at times rake even more off the table.
I’ll allow you to arrive at your own conclusion but for me, there have been way too many online irregularities to not consider such a thing. Do we really all believe now that Bernie Madoff is behind bars that Ponzi scheme’s are a thing of the past?
I think it is obvious, as to the who and the why; a great many "poker players" rely on additional computer programs to track and analyze other players and hands as well, both short and long term (not that you do, or to say you rely on it). They are not poker players so much as computer program users playing the game of poker, IMHO. And bringing the wiz-bang computer tools into a game , like it or not, is an unfair advantage at best, downright cheating at worse, again, IMHO. So casual and or weak players, which we all rely on, end up losing too much and do not like to play when they find this stuff out, rightly justified as a reason or not. For them, software that tells
you everything just takes the fun out of it.
You cannot do it in a live game, that is for certain. So It's no different than getting hand-to-hand help in a live game from a person or a machine. In a live game you have to figure out pot and hand odds
out in your head. You also rely on memory of other players. Why not also online? And why not have the site itself give all of this info to everyone equally, built in as part of the game? Again, it scares away casual players by making the game look complicated. Still, maybe someday they will. But it would ruin your live game play, rest assured. As you would have no need to ever think it out yourself in an online game, you would have to hope you could remember how and have time to do it in a live game.
I also think this very issue is also helping stir the pot when people suggest the whole thing is rigged (not in the way you suggest); if some can use computer programs for an unfair advantage and the site does not give this info freely to all, it does make it look like that and just gives ammo to the morality police, rightly deserved or not.
As far as suspicions concerning the site using bots; they could make up an infinite number of these fake accounts, using one and then discarding it the very next day, so, name or number would not matter. However, those player names or numbers have to be linked to a persons account. If your bot has a winning day, it would certainly be more
profit than from rake alone
. And so it has to be accounted for in some way. This is something the regulating agencies check for, if not someone in accounting. So if you have accounts making money and then disappearing, leaving just the profit in the company, you would be showing income whose source you could not explain. Sooner or later, all a company's income has to be accounted for. They would have to be also guilty of money laundering. And that's not easy. It just would not be as easy as having a bot winning pots. It would be incredibly complicated.
Just ask the Mob or Drug cartels. They have been trying for years. You just cannot pop up with xx-millions, without an explanation of where it came from.