Algorithm of the right game?

VTugushev · Feb 24, 2019

Hey. Please tell me in pokerstars, can there be an algorithm for the correct game for players? if the player does not play correctly, then the player’s statistics will have less chance of winning. example: operation algorithm - Correct action (+) Incorrect action (-)
With pocket pairs higher than 10 10, with double pictures AD, AK, with suited pairs of pictures above A 10 - a raise is required - 3 Bet or higher. (+) With pocket pairs higher than 10 10, with pair pictures of AD, AK, with suited pairs Pictures above A 10 - bet 1 bet or call. (-)
With a pocket pair higher than JJ, 3 bet of the opponent must be twisted to 9 Bet * or immediately go all-in. (+) With a pocket pair higher than JJ, 3 Bet of the opponent can call. (-)

acidburnfx · Feb 25, 2019

This probability is quite possible. However, you will hardly be able to see this, because this is one of the keys to good functioning and success of the company. The algorithm in the first instance is done with the purpose of making a profit for a company or if it were you would give 35% of ROI to the players?

MrPokerVerse · Feb 25, 2019

acidburnfx said:
This probability is quite possible. However, you will hardly be able to see this, because this is one of the keys to good functioning and success of the company. The algorithm in the first instance is done with the purpose of making a profit for a company or if it were you would give 35% of ROI to the players?

This doesn't sound correct. What is the company providing and what is the cost? From what I see it is a constant fee of rake and charge for tournaments. What do they gain in running an "algorithm" that would make more profit? What is the risk to reward in doing this? I disagree with this statement.

ClickPoker · Feb 25, 2019

If the algorithm exists, however, I do not think we could reach it to read some day. We have to play according to the rules and the odds, remember that the house always wins. There are mules of players in pokerstar and there are many who are bad players, so if we take into account that the profit of the company is going there making a good game the system would be on our side.

MrPokerVerse · Feb 25, 2019

VTugushev said:
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Hey. Please tell me in Pokerstars, can there be an algorithm for the correct game for players? if the player does not play correctly, then the player’s statistics will have less chance of winning. example: operation algorithm - Correct action (+) Incorrect action (-)
With pocket pairs higher than 10 10, with double pictures AD, AK, with suited pairs of pictures above A 10 - a raise is required - 3 Bet or higher. (+) With pocket pairs higher than 10 10, with pair pictures of AD, AK, with suited pairs Pictures above A 10 - bet 1 bet or call. (-)
With a pocket pair higher than JJ, 3 bet of the opponent must be twisted to 9 Bet * or immediately go all-in. (+) With a pocket pair higher than JJ, 3 Bet of the opponent can call. (-)

You are focusing on the wrong aspects of poker. Don't waste your time with this thought process. You would benefit more my asking questions or posting hands to gain insight on how to play certain hands, with postion, stack sizes and other information.

0546474 · Feb 25, 2019

I think that in poker there is no ideal formula for winning (you can simply maximize your chances of winning), since everything depends not only on your actions but also on the actions of your opponents and opponents can be different - some are aggressive and can open up a wider range hands than other (passive) players !!! Also, if you play a tournament, you must take into account the stage of the tournament and the format itself. This is the speed of the tournament - in turbo tournaments and hyper turbo tournaments and regular tournaments the opening range is also different !!!

acidburnfx · Feb 25, 2019

MrPokerVerse said:
This doesn't sound correct. What is the company providing and what is the cost? From what I see it is a constant fee of rake and charge for tournaments. What do they gain in running an "algorithm" that would make more profit? What is the risk to reward in doing this? I disagree with this statement.

If that is not correct, then tell me what is correct about your point of view. Is it correct to retain a much greater value it provides for the bettors on a nickel hunting machine, for example?

The "Fruit machines" are the main revenue generators for almost all physical and online casinos.

The person enters to play by his own desire and discover their odds is almost impossible. The house advantage in most slot machines ranges from 6% to 15%. Physical slots must pay a minimum amount that is determined by your state or country, while online gambling tends to be less regulated.

MrPokerVerse · Feb 25, 2019

acidburnfx said:
If that is not correct, then tell me what is correct about your point of view. Is it correct to retain a much greater value it provides for the bettors on a nickel hunting machine, for example?

The "Fruit machines" are the main revenue generators for almost all physical and online casinos.

The person enters to play by his own desire and discover their odds is almost impossible. The house advantage in most slot machines ranges from 6% to 15%. Physical slots must pay a minimum amount that is determined by your state or country, while online gambling tends to be less regulated.

OP didn't ask about "Fruit Macines", question was specifically ask about PokerStars. This was about an poker program to decide odds or determine a correct path. Would you like to try again with a rebuttal? Think my statement stands on it's own.

Alex Sentsov · Feb 25, 2019

It would be great if it existed. But unfortunately there is no winning algorithm.

okeedokalee · Feb 25, 2019

Study the game. Your plus and minus plays will become more obvious to you when you learn the correct plays for each situation.

r21sp · Feb 25, 2019

if it is about the fact that poker room somehow affects the winning of players, then this is just nonsense! poker room earns on rake and not on the fact that you lose your money to another player! You do not lose money to the poker room - you lose to another player!

Cajin007 · Feb 25, 2019

There is no correct algorithm that could be implemented. The definition of what is a "correct" or "incorrect" play, would be subject to massive debate. Also your algorithm would have to take into account a large number of possibilities, would be massive and largely time intensive in logistics.
In short, there is no winning formula for poker, cause if there was everyone would be using it, and no one would win.

badboydean00 · Feb 25, 2019

MrPokerVerse said:
This doesn't sound correct. What is the company providing and what is the cost? From what I see it is a constant fee of rake and charge for tournaments. What do they gain in running an "algorithm" that would make more profit? What is the risk to reward in doing this? I disagree with this statement.

yes i agree with you .... it makes no sense .

acidburnfx · Feb 25, 2019

MrPokerVerse said:
OP didn't ask about "Fruit Macines", question was specifically ask about PokerStars. This was about an poker program to decide odds or determine a correct path. Would you like to try again with a rebuttal? Think my statement stands on it's own.

Go ahead and answer your own question.

Lena M · Feb 26, 2019

Hello.
I think the main thing is to be patient and always to wait for good cards. This is the most efficient algorithm.

VTugushev · Mar 1, 2019

Lena M said:
Hello.
I think the main thing is to be patient and always to wait for good cards. This is the most efficient algorithm.

Thank you [emoji91][emoji4]

VTugushev · Mar 1, 2019

Cajin007 said:
There is no correct algorithm that could be implemented. The definition of what is a "correct" or "incorrect" play, would be subject to massive debate. Also your algorithm would have to take into account a large number of possibilities, would be massive and largely time intensive in logistics.
In short, there is no winning formula for poker, cause if there was everyone would be using it, and no one would win.

I'm just learning new. the point was that if you do not play correctly, the program can deliberately give bad cards. Do I really want to understand this or not?

VTugushev · Mar 1, 2019

r21sp said:
if it is about the fact that poker room somehow affects the winning of players, then this is just nonsense! poker room earns on rake and not on the fact that you lose your money to another player! You do not lose money to the poker room - you lose to another player!

Thank you for the clarification.

Cajin007 · Mar 2, 2019

fundamental learning

VTugushev said:
I'm just learning new. the point was that if you do not play correctly, the program can deliberately give bad cards. Do I really want to understand this or not?

The point I was trying to make is that you will receive bad cards regardless if you play correctly, or incorrectly. Trying to figure when the "system" will help or hurt you will not improve your game.
Basic ABC poker is a good foundation for playing, and then adjusting that to fit other players strategies works well.
You will win some, and you will loose some. That's the nature of poker.
Sometimes you will see a player win with total garbage, other times with the stone cold nuts.
In other words, don't believe you can work the "system", cause the system will work you. :secruity::help:

Poker Orifice · Mar 2, 2019

acidburnfx said:
This probability is quite possible. However, you will hardly be able to see this, because this is one of the keys to good functioning and success of the company. The algorithm in the first instance is done with the purpose of making a profit for a company or if it were you would give 35% of ROI to the players?

This ^ is absolutely fk'n ridiculous!!! It's poker we're playing here... not eff'n blackjack.
WTF are you even talking about? WOW!! Just a huge WOW!

Poker Orifice · Mar 2, 2019

ClickPoker said:
remember that the house always wins. T.

WTF are you talking about? We're playing poker.... not BlackJack!

What is up with you guys??? Is it just something that's been lost in translation? Like 'Poker' isn't actually poker once you translate it into English... or do you guys just have ZERO clue about the game of poker?

Poker Orifice · Mar 2, 2019

VTugushev said:
I'm just learning new. the point was that if you do not play correctly, the program can deliberately give bad cards. Do I really want to understand this or not?

No! Cards are dealt RANDOM

If you & I were playing poker on your kitchen table... and you were playing 'not correctly'... am I going to start dealing you bad cards?? (<<< sounds ridiculous right? Well same with online poker)

B1731898 · Mar 2, 2019

I don't think there is an algorithm to decide of course, but here's the thing,...I've wondered the exact same thing. So is there truth this? The world may never know.

Poker Orifice · Mar 2, 2019

acidburnfx said:
If that is not correct, then tell me what is correct about your point of view. Is it correct to retain a much greater value it provides for the bettors on a nickel hunting machine, for example?

The "Fruit machines" are the main revenue generators for almost all physical and online casinos.

The person enters to play by his own desire and discover their odds is almost impossible. The house advantage in most slot machines ranges from 6% to 15%. Physical slots must pay a minimum amount that is determined by your state or country, while online gambling tends to be less regulated.

Because his response wasn't a 'point of view'... it was about 'the way it is'.. you know 'reality'.

We're talking about poker here... not fruit machines (although sometimes I wonder.... )

cwdignus · Mar 4, 2019

the ICM traine tools operate with an algorithm similar to what you said

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