absolute poker

hey i was lookin at another forum and i found out something very interesting... absolute poker doesn't use a random number generator on its site, it uses a PREprogrammed card placement chip, meaning all the hands are predetermined befor their ever dealt!

i dont play on the site but i thought i should share with any of you guys that do... tell me what u think

thats not right

I don't agree with that at all... it sould always be total random. They do though have a scholarship tournement coming up. I find that interestin and can benfit many of the young players out there, just to let you know...:trytofly:

Where did u find that out from?

What was the name of the other site and are they for sure? Where was this information found?

Is it true that most of the poker sites do not have true random number generators? That instead they "enhance" the numbers? I play freerolls on Ultimate Bet quite often and am amazed at the number of times someone wins on the river. It just doesn't happen like that in my real poker games in my town or on my trips to Las vegas ...

nearly all random number generators use a seed that generates a series of numbers like that

they are more random than a shuffled deck of cards are, whilst not 100% random its good enough

and no the sites don't juice the hands

i dont play on that site but i think it should always be a random hand so that it is fair

I think that it should be a random hand all the time, but I have seen people get beat on the river a lot while I have been playing online poker.

Knowing a little bit about computers, I can explain this. The cards are still just as random as any other site. The "pre" simply means that the cards are randomized before the hand is played. It's the same as if the dealer in a live game shuffles and deals the flop turn and river facedown on the table. Not much different then a random generator. Just done all at once.

Well its safe to say that programmed random and real life human random are not at all the same, but their still random. There is a definite increase of bad beats on-line and rivered wins, thats why the all-in clan seem to have more success on-line.

thats homosexual. That means that one seat is predestined to win more than the other. what if you got a bad seat?

Absolute is random

pre-random selection and random generator on spot has to accomplish the same random fairness. pre-random selection has nothing to do with where one sits, you still have to make a decision.

pre-random finds 25 random selected cards, it deals the first twenty out. You have the same chance in these twenty cards to get the rockets, 1:216

it predetermined the cards order but you the players still have to play the game.

I think Absolute is getting a bad beat on this issue

J dude and I took on one small section of the whole argument that online poker isn't random last night, we looked specifically at people getting rivered. He and I delt 10 hands with a real 52 card deck of cards, took away the hands that would not likely be in to see the flop in an online game and then delt the flop and turn. After the Turn we would look at who was ahead and then deal the river. The hand that was ahead on the turn got rivered 28% of the time. (7 out of 25 hands). We did the same on Absolute Poker, we watched 25 hands that ended in a showdown (basically if someone bet and everyone folded that didn't count) and the hand that was ahead after the turn got beat 20% of the time (5 out of 25 hands) Now I know that this isn't exactly professional, and doesn't even begin to cover the argument of predetermined hands but as far as people getting rivered more in online poker, as far as we found, you're more likely to get rivered playing a completely random home game than online poker. We concluded that the reason people think there are more river beats in online poker is because of the increased number of hands seen. While playing online you can see 60+ hands in an hour where in a home game you might only see 20 or 30. And obviously the more hands you see the more likely you are to see someone get rivered. Just something I thought would be good to share. Please post any comments that you have.

:icon_scra i find this very interesting, but not really surprised. i have seen so many river bad beats at this site (which is basically my home site), and have often wondered if it was pre-determined. i would like to know where you recieved this info, and i thank you for the heads-up.