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Why has this site 'cardschat' rated Sky poker as the second best poker site and rated pokerstars in fifth place? What an absolute joke! Sky poker is absolutely crap! Hardly anyone uses that site and the graphics are awful. The most players I've ever seen on that sight is about 1700. You wait forever for a game to start due to the lack of players. Think I'll find a better forum than this. Unbelievable, honestly.
 
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Why has this site 'cardschat' rated Sky poker as the second best poker site and rated Pokerstars in fifth place? What an absolute joke! Sky poker is absolutely crap! Hardly anyone uses that site and the graphics are awful. The most players I've ever seen on that sight is about 1700. You wait forever for a game to start due to the lack of players. Think I'll find a better forum than this. Unbelievable, honestly.

Interesting. I have no experience with either site, but it makes me wonder if their "ratings" are designed to favor affiliates that give more generous commissions?
 
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Why has this site 'cardschat' rated Sky poker as the second best poker site and rated Pokerstars in fifth place? What an absolute joke! Sky poker is absolutely crap! Hardly anyone uses that site and the graphics are awful. The most players I've ever seen on that sight is about 1700. You wait forever for a game to start due to the lack of players. Think I'll find a better forum than this. Unbelievable, honestly.
Good luck!:rolleyes:
 
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Dear poker site goes a lot of the taste of each and amount of players
 
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Why has this site 'cardschat' rated Sky poker as the second best poker site and rated Pokerstars in fifth place? What an absolute joke! Sky poker is absolutely crap! Hardly anyone uses that site and the graphics are awful. The most players I've ever seen on that sight is about 1700. You wait forever for a game to start due to the lack of players. Think I'll find a better forum than this. Unbelievable, honestly.

I think they rate the sites according to the kick backs they receive for the players who sign up using the cardschat link. Betonline is also rated best, but their rake is 5.55%, while pokerstars is 3.5%. Go figure.
 
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.... Think I'll find a better forum than this...

I agree with terryk; good luck with that. I am frankly a bit offended by your remarks since I consider Cardschat the best poker forum out there. I have learned soooooo much from this site (which poker sites to use, important deposit/withdrawal info and so much more). I have often told my wife that if I ever make it big in poker, Cardschat will have played an important part in that.
 
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as far as i know (correct me if i'm wrong) Sky is only available for people of some european (basically from UK) countries, so that gives you an answer about low traffic.
 
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Do not play at either site and never have. Can speak about cardschat tho. I have enjoyed and learned more about poker in this forum than anywhere else. I am sure there is some type or reward for recommending one site over another and I do not begrudge them for collecting something.
 
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Do not play at either site and never have. Can speak about cardschat tho. I have enjoyed and learned more about poker in this forum than anywhere else. I am sure there is some type or reward for recommending one site over another and I do not begrudge them for collecting something.

Of course they get rewarded, those free rolls that lure us to this forum are not payed by the moderators with their own money...Why all the strict requirements about a certain amount of posts if not for advertising purposes? They need to maximize their income, and resort to known business tactics. I do not mean that is a bad thing, and I would never stop using the forum for that matter, that's silly. It strikes me, however, how people on this forum get defensive about every little thing you say that could somehow be interpreted as negative. It's like Cardschat is all perfect and awesome, that nothing could be any better, ever. You don't like something, that's it, you are not one of us, go away! How about listening to everyone, and trying to improve, what's wrong with that?
 
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I was a bit hasty.

Sorry guys. I was probably a bit hasty in my original post. This seems like a good forum and I'm sorry if I offended anyone. Thanks.
 
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Sorry guys. I was probably a bit hasty in my original post. This seems like a good forum and I'm sorry if I offended anyone. Thanks.
No worries,bro:cool: stick around,i think you`ll find it`s pretty cool here and the people are top notch;) Poker is an emotional rollar coaster ride,and we`re all on it,lol:joyman:
 
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Of course they get rewarded, those free rolls that lure us to this forum are not payed by the moderators with their own money...Why all the strict requirements about a certain amount of posts if not for advertising purposes? They need to maximize their income, and resort to known business tactics. I do not mean that is a bad thing, and I would never stop using the forum for that matter, that's silly. It strikes me, however, how people on this forum get defensive about every little thing you say that could somehow be interpreted as negative. It's like Cardschat is all perfect and awesome, that nothing could be any better, ever. You don't like something, that's it, you are not one of us, go away! How about listening to everyone, and trying to improve, what's wrong with that?

Have you thought that the number of posts and continuing number of posts is to encourage people to actually post on the forum which helps promote the site by getting it up the search engine rankings which in turn will attract new members and new signups which earn commision for the site.Otherwise, freerollers would just play the freerolls and never participate on the forum.
 
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Have you thought that the number of posts and continuing number of posts is to encourage people to actually post on the forum which helps promote the site by getting it up the search engine rankings which in turn will attract new members and new signups which earn commision for the site.Otherwise, freerollers would just play the freerolls and never participate on the forum.

No, I haven't thought that, mostly because it's not true. How would posting in this forum get the site up in search engines? You obviously have no idea how search engines work. To bring the site up in search engines, you need to access the site through a search engine, or to give the site high ratings, making posts on the forum itself has nothing to do with the search engines. Aside from that, you are basically saying the same thing I was saying, that we pay for the free rolls with our time here instead of money, which is cool as long as everybody understands it.
 
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from https://moz.com/beginners-guide-to-seo/how-search-engines-operate

"Search engines typically assume that the more popular a site, page, or document, the more valuable the information it contains must be. This assumption has proven fairly successful in terms of user satisfaction with search results."

so by making people post to get into the freerolls , it creates measurable traffic ( because there is stuff for people to read and to keep coming back for replies) and also may throw up some quotable links that will also improve page ranking. If there's no posts , there won't be any traffic , no signups and no affiliate commision.
 
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I don"t know about sky poker.
But for me pokerstars is the best site i used so far.
I also played with Betonline, but the graphics and playerfield were a bit disappointing.
 
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Of course they get rewarded, those free rolls that lure us to this forum are not payed by the moderators with their own money...Why all the strict requirements about a certain amount of posts if not for advertising purposes? They need to maximize their income, and resort to known business tactics. I do not mean that is a bad thing, and I would never stop using the forum for that matter, that's silly. It strikes me, however, how people on this forum get defensive about every little thing you say that could somehow be interpreted as negative. It's like Cardschat is all perfect and awesome, that nothing could be any better, ever. You don't like something, that's it, you are not one of us, go away! How about listening to everyone, and trying to improve, what's wrong with that?

Have you thought that the number of posts and continuing number of posts is to encourage people to actually post on the forum which helps promote the site by getting it up the search engine rankings which in turn will attract new members and new signups which earn commision for the site.Otherwise, freerollers would just play the freerolls and never participate on the forum.

No, I haven't thought that, mostly because it's not true. How would posting in this forum get the site up in search engines? You obviously have no idea how search engines work. To bring the site up in search engines, you need to access the site through a search engine, or to give the site high ratings, making posts on the forum itself has nothing to do with the search engines. Aside from that, you are basically saying the same thing I was saying, that we pay for the free rolls with our time here instead of money, which is cool as long as everybody understands it.

from https://moz.com/beginners-guide-to-seo/how-search-engines-operate

"Search engines typically assume that the more popular a site, page, or document, the more valuable the information it contains must be. This assumption has proven fairly successful in terms of user satisfaction with search results."

so by making people post to get into the freerolls , it creates measurable traffic ( because there is stuff for people to read and to keep coming back for replies) and also may throw up some quotable links that will also improve page ranking. If there's no posts , there won't be any traffic , no signups and no affiliate commision.

You are both completely wrong about why we have post requirements for our freerolls.

It does nothing whatsoever for search engine results and provides us with zero income.

There is one reason for it and it is really this simple. Our freerolls are rewards for members who actually enjoy the forum and take the time to be reasonably active at CardsChat. We do not want those members to have to share the freerolls with boatloads of people who come here just for that - or worse yet are not even members at all. Members who are not loyal share passwords - our FRC members do not share them - when that happens once in a while we easily identify them and they suffer the consequences. :)
 
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You are both completely wrong about why we have post requirements for our freerolls.

It does nothing whatsoever for search engine results and provides us with zero income.

There is one reason for it and it is really this simple. Our freerolls are rewards for members who actually enjoy the forum and take the time to be reasonably active at CardsChat. We do not want those members to have to share the freerolls with boatloads of people who come here just for that - or worse yet are not even members at all. Members who are not loyal share passwords - our FRC members do not share them - when that happens once in a while we easily identify them and they suffer the consequences. :)

I think Mrs. Dakota sums it up nicely. without affiliate programs, we would not have cardchats freerolls period. So support the site as much as you can and learn from great people.
 
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You are both completely wrong about why we have post requirements for our freerolls.

It does nothing whatsoever for search engine results and provides us with zero income.

There is one reason for it and it is really this simple. Our freerolls are rewards for members who actually enjoy the forum and take the time to be reasonably active at CardsChat. We do not want those members to have to share the freerolls with boatloads of people who come here just for that - or worse yet are not even members at all. Members who are not loyal share passwords - our FRC members do not share them - when that happens once in a while we easily identify them and they suffer the consequences. :)

Its a bit disingenuous saying that what i put is completely wrong when the bit i bolded above says the same thing as i wrote.
Otherwise, freerollers would just play the freerolls and never participate on the forum

Are you also saying that having a high page ranking on google etc( i.e third site on the list for "poker forum") doesn't generate CC new members at all with ensuing site signups with associated cpa or revenue share income from those new members?

Do you think that if site activity dropped by removing the post and continuing posts requirement that stars etc would remove the freerolls as they have with other sites when site activity dropped, particularly with usa facingsites post black friday when a lot of americans faced with lost bankrolls and difficulty playing/cashing out online stopped posting on those forums.
 
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Its a bit disingenuous saying that what i put is completely wrong when the bit i bolded above says the same thing as i wrote.


Are you also saying that having a high page ranking on google etc( i.e third site on the list for "poker forum") doesn't generate CC new members at all with ensuing site signups with associated cpa or revenue share income from those new members?

Do you think that if site activity dropped by removing the post and continuing posts requirement that stars etc would remove the freerolls as they have with other sites when site activity dropped, particularly with usa facingsites post black friday when a lot of americans faced with lost bankrolls and difficulty playing/cashing out online stopped posting on those forums.

Okay - so remove the word completely and everything but that one line is wrong. :p

No - I didn't say that at all. I said that is not the reason we have post requirements for the freerolls. Those post requirements do not affect our page ranking. If anything it would hurt it - but the impact on ranking even if we removed it would be so incredibly minuscule that we wouldn't even notice it.

The freerolls themselves generate searches and then bring people to the forum - has nothing whatsoever to do with post requirements. If we had no post requirements we would get more searches and more people coming to the forum - so if we wanted to reward a bunch of zero posters and strangers who don't care about the forum we would get more benefit from that - but that is not what we want to do.

The 2nd paragraph doesn't even make sense. No - PokerStars would never remove our freerolls for that reason - they would only stop them if they stopped all private freerolls for whatever reason. Our site activity has nothing to do with us having freerolls at PokerStars.

Again - we do not have the post requirements in place to increase activity in the forum. They are in place to ensure that we are rewarding the members that we want to reward. An added benefit is having more activity in the forum - but again that has nothing to do with our ranking.

Trying to 2nd guess me on this is a waste of your time - since I started these freerolls and know exactly why we have them. I asked for them, I received them, the FRC was my idea, and along with the moderators I implemented it (as well as the 25+ requirement) and with the mods have made every decision regarding the requirements for both.
 
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You have been Dakota=owned!!! Now go eat your cereal!!! ;)
 
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Why has this site 'cardschat' rated Sky poker as the second best poker site and rated Pokerstars in fifth place? What an absolute joke! Sky poker is absolutely crap! Hardly anyone uses that site and the graphics are awful. The most players I've ever seen on that sight is about 1700. You wait forever for a game to start due to the lack of players. Think I'll find a better forum than this. Unbelievable, honestly.


Exercise your right not to play at either site. Not being mean, who cares what others rank a site. Find one or two you like, play there. Ignore what others say if your enjoying other sites and feel its on the up and up. Yes there are those that will get upset or offended at anything said not positive. Do the same with them you do with reviews, ignore them. They can be offended as much as they want and you can post what you want as log as it meets T&C. Some people make a career out of being offended, don't give them the time of day and enjoy the game you love wherever you want to play it :D
 
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I seriously doubt that cardschat would be involved in anything immoral or under handed... But, I imagine that other poker sites compete to get more players on their site... Its only a marketing idea that they use? Not sure why else they would push inconsistent information....
 
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Very well explained Dakota ,and agree with your post ,it clears things that most don't know
 
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