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#1 May 22nd, 2020, 2:08 PM

Just a reminder that in just over 2 days the new bonus policy takes effect on 888.

On the 25th all bets and wagers made will use money from your account leaving the bonus untouched, unless you have $0 in your account, in which case you can bet or wager using bonus funds.
Not only that, but I got another email today that announces another change. Starting on June 1 bonus money can only be used on "selected" games.

Here's the original email and the new email 888 sent out, I also included the section from the terms and conditions in the user agreement...

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#2 May 22nd, 2020, 2:30 PM

Every day the life of a poker player is getting better and more fun. (sarcasm)

#3 May 22nd, 2020, 2:50 PM

Did they specify what kind of selected games ?

#4 May 22nd, 2020, 6:30 PM

Thanks for the info!

#5 May 22nd, 2020, 7:09 PM

Sure seems to be going downhill pretty quick. From the 3 month connection issues, the removal of lvl freerolls and now this. Seems maybe they only make $$ from the sports book. I still have a few active nhl bets, they probably should have offered to cxl all outstanding bets. The only bright spot is the beloved CC 888 rep.

#6 May 22nd, 2020, 7:12 PM

Originally Posted by Nomahoners

The only bright spot is the beloved CC 888 rep.

Don't be ridicilous. This "beloved" 888rep cant even watch people's profiles here if username is needed in order to save (valuable) time 888 changing bonus policy May 25

#7 May 22nd, 2020, 8:13 PM

Hi mate.I have a casino bonus but with the news given I�ll just play casino to get the ticket for the $1000 freeroll..Thanks for the information.

#8 May 22nd, 2020, 9:54 PM

Originally Posted by Risto234

Don't be ridicilous. This "beloved" 888rep cant even watch people's profiles here if username is needed in order to save (valuable) time 888 changing bonus policy May 25

Gotta find a silver lining somewhere. Doubt the job pays well enough to listen to crack pots like myself.

#9 May 23rd, 2020, 4:16 AM

Less than 2 days until the new policies take effect.

I've already used up all my bonuses and I plan to withdraw my bankroll tomorrow while I can before they start penalizing you for withdrawals.

I don't know who thought that threatening to take away outstanding bonuses, tickets and the daily spin if you make a withdrawal was a good idea. 888 changing bonus policy May 25

#10 May 23rd, 2020, 4:33 AM

Yep, received the same emails. I understand where they're coming from since this is what PStars and other sites do, when you qualify for a bonus and make billions of $$ but do not satisfy the play through requirement the monies made via that bonus are forfeit if you withdraw any part of those funds. Regarding the "selected" bonus applicability, vis a vis poker, casino or sports this has been in effect as well. However, using up bankroll cash before using bonus funds is just plain stupid. There is no point to playing anything that has bonus as a carrot.

#11 May 23rd, 2020, 5:02 AM

Originally Posted by Polytarp

Yep, received the same emails. I understand where they're coming from since this is what PStars and other sites do, when you qualify for a bonus and make billions of $$ but do not satisfy the play through requirement the monies made via that bonus are forfeit if you withdraw any part of those funds. Regarding the "selected" bonus applicability, vis a vis poker, casino or sports this has been in effect as well. However, using up bankroll cash before using bonus funds is just plain stupid. There is no point to playing anything that has bonus as a carrot.

It was already quite hard to actually clear bonuses at 888, especially casino bonuses.
Most of them had wagering requirements where you have to wager 100x the bonus to clear the bonus, and any winnings.
It was heavily weighted to slots too. If you got a $10 casino bonus you'd have to wager $1000 playing slots, but for Blackjack you would have to wager $10,000 to clear that $10 bonus as it only counts as 10%. In slots wagering $10 counts as $10 towards clearing a bonus while in BJ a $10 wager only counts as $1 towards clearing a bonus.

I guess we'll soon see how it goes.

I rarely deposit, but when I did I almost always waited until there was a good bonus involved. Even if clearing them was rare (but not impossible) they were still good for racking up points to level up.
Now, I don't see any reason for me to deposit.

#12 May 23rd, 2020, 6:36 AM

I too got this mail. But I rarely use a Bonus code to deposit. I only deposit when there is a Free sports bets codes available.
Recently I was converting my Casino freeplay into poker bonus by requesting to the Support but now I need to adapt a Vigilant approach.

Well I still don't know if we use to play a tourney by bonus money and win some real money then Would it be in bonus wallet or real money wallet???

What are the selected games 888 has decided to be used buy the bonus money??

#13 May 23rd, 2020, 10:02 PM

I withdrawn all of my funds before this change, due to recent moves I have asumed that 888 have some problems

#14 May 24th, 2020, 1:22 AM

I took all my money out today just ahead of the new terms and conditions about to come into effect, I only have $0.21 left on 888 for the moment.

Funny enough, on today's spin I won a $10 casino freeplay.

After giving it some thought I think I've figured out a loophole that will allow me to use the bonus without having any money come off my bankroll. 888 changing bonus policy May 25

I'll get that bonus in 2 days, right after the new terms come into effect, so I'll know if it works soon. 888 changing bonus policy May 25

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#15 May 24th, 2020, 3:57 AM

Originally Posted by Risto234

Don't be ridicilous. This "beloved" 888rep cant even watch people's profiles here if username is needed in order to save (valuable) time 888 changing bonus policy May 25

yes i think he was kidding. i mean i appreciate what the rep is trying to do here but a lot of times he does not even know answers to basic questions about the product he is representing.

888 seems to be really going downhill. they would have been better off to not ignore customer feedback in the past. a lot of issues and thats why many players left. i still like to play there but i really dont get these guys at all to be honest.

#16 May 25th, 2020, 4:17 PM

They have brought back the lvl 60 and 80 freerolls people! Im a 1/2 lvl from 60 so thats pretty great.

#17 May 25th, 2020, 4:38 PM

Originally Posted by Nomahoners

They have brought back the lvl 60 and 80 freerolls people! Im a 1/2 lvl from 60 so thats pretty great.

Yah I did notice 25K elite tourney yesterday but have you seen level 100+ tourney in the lobby?

#18 May 25th, 2020, 4:55 PM

Originally Posted by Brandlad

Yah I did notice 25K elite tourney yesterday but have you seen level 100+ tourney in the lobby?

100 lvl event comes back after i reach this level 888 changing bonus policy May 25

#19 May 25th, 2020, 5:04 PM

No level 100 there suits me great level 60 and 80 though if win more money there maybe will stop withdrawing most of it until use that 100k ticket anyway. 888 changing bonus policy May 25

Compulsive people who lack patience or maybe just need some money for life expenses are going to suffer though looking at these changes with the withdrawals and the forfeits. 888 changing bonus policy May 25

Only good thing that will come out of this is smaller fields though as a silver lining for those that are still playing.
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#20 May 26th, 2020, 2:25 AM

Nice to see the $25k Elite is still there and that there is a level 60+, although it is reduced from $6k to $5k.

It is a shame that the 80+ and 100+ has been combined to just 1 $10k game for 80+, but it could have been worse.

On a positive note I got my $10 casino bonus from the spin and was successfully able to use it without using my bankroll first as the workaround I figured out does work. 888 changing bonus policy May 25

#21 May 26th, 2020, 4:36 PM

Let me get this straight. To get this 'bonus' money I have to :

1) First deposit and lose my own money, quickly
2) Play with the bonus money for hours on end until I've likely lose it back to the house, or maybe profited (less likely, as I have to be a losing to player to start with), on a selection of games which no doubt aren't likely to increase my chances of clearing this.

Doesn't look like a strong incentive to play there, or am I missing something and these bonuses are still worth having somehow?

#22 May 28th, 2020, 9:03 PM

Whats the � kickoff � tourney all about anyway. Anyone ever get invited? Did the invite come with any explanation?

Cheers

#23 May 29th, 2020, 7:54 AM

Just had a email deposit $20 get a $5 bonus. So you gotta lose all the $20 before you can even play with the $5......................NOT FOR ME.

What a crap deal

#24 May 29th, 2020, 1:40 PM

Originally Posted by padman400

Just had a email deposit $20 get a $5 bonus. So you gotta lose all the $20 before you can even play with the $5......................NOT FOR ME.

What a crap deal

There is a way to use a bonus without using any of your bankroll.
When you get a bonus you first use your bankroll to register for tournaments (make sure they don't start for at least several hours). After this your bankroll will be tied up and you can then use the bonus without affecting your bankroll.
When the bonus is gone, or you are done playing it for the time being, you simply unregister for those tournaments and restore your bankroll.

I did it the other day and it works just fine. I had $15.60 cash and a $10 casino bonus, I registered for $15.60 worth of tourneys then used the bonus until there was just $0.03 left then unregistered for the tourneys...

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#25 May 29th, 2020, 7:59 PM

Originally Posted by orsino12

I took all my money out today just ahead of the new terms and conditions about to come into effect, I only have $0.21 left on 888 for the moment.

Funny enough, on today's spin I won a $10 casino freeplay.

After giving it some thought I think I've figured out a loophole that will allow me to use the bonus without having any money come off my bankroll. 888 changing bonus policy May 25

I'll get that bonus in 2 days, right after the new terms come into effect, so I'll know if it works soon. 888 changing bonus policy May 25

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Can you withdraw this quantity of money?

#26 May 29th, 2020, 8:19 PM

Originally Posted by orsino12

There is a way to use a bonus without using any of your bankroll.
When you get a bonus you first use your bankroll to register for tournaments (make sure they don't start for at least several hours). After this your bankroll will be tied up and you can then use the bonus without affecting your bankroll.
When the bonus is gone, or you are done playing it for the time being, you simply unregister for those tournaments and restore your bankroll.

I did it the other day and it works just fine. I had $15.60 cash and a $10 casino bonus, I registered for $15.60 worth of tourneys then used the bonus until there was just $0.03 left then unregistered for the tourneys...

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Great a solution well played orsino12 withdrawal though that requires self control until use all the tickets and bonuses you care about first anybody try to withdraw yet?

#27 May 30th, 2020, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by hugh blair

Great a solution well played orsino12 withdrawal though that requires self control until use all the tickets and bonuses you care about first anybody try to withdraw yet?

I made a withdrawal right before the new terms and conditions came into effect and won't be making another one, no matter what my bankroll is, until using the ticket for the $100k freeroll coming up in just over a week.

I actually enjoy finding loopholes or workarounds for obstacles that sites throw up regarding bonuses or tickets, it makes beating the house a little bit sweeter. 888 changing bonus policy May 25

As soon as I get a bonus that's good for poker I'll see how those work under the new conditions.

#28 May 30th, 2020, 2:41 AM

So it looks like 888 does let you know which tickets will be forfeited if you make a withdrawal.

I was just looking over my tickets and the casino mix-up ticket has a special notation next to it.
This is the only ticket I have that says it will be forfeited if I make a withdrawal.

The new terms and conditions aren't as bad as it first seemed, there is a way to use bonuses without impacting your bankroll and obviously I'd use up any bonus before a withdrawal, and it doesn't appear many tickets are affected by the new terms and conditions.

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#29 May 30th, 2020, 2:42 AM

Originally Posted by lovemetender

Can you withdraw this quantity of money?

and what is this loophole? just sitting with all your bankroll at a table on sitout and then play on another table or in the casino with the bonus? its possible they flag you for bonus abuse if you do that i guess... 888 changing bonus policy May 25

#30 May 30th, 2020, 3:56 AM

888 should not flag us in bonus abuse as it is very much impossible to prove it.
Though 2 days ago I got a call from 888 support where a manager asked me why am I making a lot of complaints recently on Live chat?

888 wants me to use the email service more than Live support.

Actually whenever I wanted to make a deposit I were used to workout a 10% bonus from the Care. Whenever I received a Casino freeplay, I did able to turn it into Cash bonus by requesting to the Live support and I am sure any 888 manager had noticed it and thus called me.

#31 May 30th, 2020, 5:34 AM

Originally Posted by Nomahoners

Whats the � kickoff � tourney all about anyway. Anyone ever get invited? Did the invite come with any explanation?

Cheers

You can get a ticket for the Kickoff Tournament by either signing up to 888 as a referred friend or winning a ticket through a scratchcard. It's basically a freeroll where the top 100 players get a $12 tournament ticket.

#32 June 1st, 2020, 11:01 PM

I guess I can't complain too much about the bonus system.

888 sucked me into depositing with one of those "instant" bonuses yesterday. It was only a $15 bonus, but less than 1 day later I cleared it for $216.07

The wagering requirements to clear these bonuses are "almost" impossible, 100x (slots), 500x (even money roulette) or 1000x (Blackjack).

The only way to even have a chance is to be very aggressive and incredibly lucky. I let it all ride 3 times in a row on even money roulette which brought the $15 to $120 then hit the slots and had a good run.

I gotta admit, it feels really good to clear a bonus so soon after they changed the terms and conditions. 888 changing bonus policy May 25

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#33 June 5th, 2020, 4:09 PM

Having played on 888 since before when it was known as Pacific Poker, sadly I have to agree that it has gone from being the best pite for bonuses, freerolls etc, it is now rubbish.
Connection issues, impossible to clear bonuses, disappearing freerolls etc.
Sadly though it seems to be the same with all sites, they all want to squeeze every penny from their customers but hate giving us anything back.
I remember when getting 30% rakeback was common and 10 years ago I worked as a prop getting 80% rakeback. Happy Days.

#34 June 5th, 2020, 6:37 PM

Originally Posted by orsino12

I guess I can't complain too much about the bonus system.

888 sucked me into depositing with one of those "instant" bonuses yesterday. It was only a $15 bonus, but less than 1 day later I cleared it for $216.07

The wagering requirements to clear these bonuses are "almost" impossible, 100x (slots), 500x (even money roulette) or 1000x (Blackjack).

The only way to even have a chance is to be very aggressive and incredibly lucky. I let it all ride 3 times in a row on even money roulette which brought the $15 to $120 then hit the slots and had a good run.

I gotta admit, it feels really good to clear a bonus so soon after they changed the terms and conditions. 888 changing bonus policy May 25

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but for doing that you had to first touch the money in your bankroll no? did you loose it all before you were able to play with the bonus? thanks for that information.

#35 June 5th, 2020, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by nairolph87

but for doing that you had to first touch the money in your bankroll no? did you loose it all before you were able to play with the bonus? thanks for that information.

No, I didn't touch my bankroll at all. If you look back a few posts I showed that there is a loophole, if you use your bankroll to register in tournaments (preferably ones that start 12 hours or more in the future in case you run into connection problems) your bankroll is tied up and you can use the bonus directly. As soon as you either lose the bonus, get tired and take a break from playing the bonus, or you actually clear the bonus then you simply unregister for the tournaments and your bankroll is restored.

I already pulled all but $9 out of 888 and already have the money so it's all good. 888 changing bonus policy May 25

#36 June 6th, 2020, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by orsino12

No, I didn't touch my bankroll at all. If you look back a few posts I showed that there is a loophole, if you use your bankroll to register in tournaments (preferably ones that start 12 hours or more in the future in case you run into connection problems) your bankroll is tied up and you can use the bonus directly. As soon as you either lose the bonus, get tired and take a break from playing the bonus, or you actually clear the bonus then you simply unregister for the tournaments and your bankroll is restored.

I already pulled all but $9 out of 888 and already have the money so it's all good. 888 changing bonus policy May 25

Thanks for sharing this knowledge with us, do u know iff money won from freerolls have to pass true playtrue policie or can be withdraw?

#37 June 6th, 2020, 4:19 AM

Originally Posted by freddydr87

Thanks for sharing this knowledge with us, do u know iff money won from freerolls have to pass true playtrue policie or can be withdraw?

Money won on 888 from freerolls has no strings attached, it can be withdrawn as soon as it's won.

The way things are headed on 888 I wouldn't be at all surprised if that doesn't change in the future, but for now it's all good.

#38 June 6th, 2020, 4:24 PM

I have never liked any bonus on any online poker room.It just makes you play more and probably lose more,but that also depends on where you play and deposit your money.

#39 June 6th, 2020, 4:30 PM

Originally Posted by Iryna Stryzheuskaya

Every day the life of a poker player is getting better and more fun. (sarcasm)

Everyday the complaining and holding out your hand for free shit is louder and louder......almost as if it was still the early days of online poker and endless bonuses and free stuff still existed (not sarcasm)

Companies change over time. Belts tighten. Bonuses and discounts become less and less frequent

I still get tickets to events simply for making a deposit and I wonder how long that will continue on the two sites I play on.

Not ripping you personally, but it still surprises me how many �legends� just don�t get it. It�s the year 2020. Nothing is the same as it was in the early 2000�s

#40 June 10th, 2020, 8:33 PM

There are still some freerolls with free money awarded , 888poker has imo , still now , the best offers in freerolls and freebuys .

These new rules I also don't like them , makes it harder to win from bonuses and free tickets , but on the other hand it's their free money or tickets , so they have to win sth (rake ) to give you this money , they don't freezr the rest of your csh balance until you make the wagering , if you fail they just remove these extra bonuses or tickets . Also , there are some very good players who can wager the necessary money , or pay the neccessary rake , and win these bonuses 888 changing bonus policy May 25

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