As another happy recipient of a CC $25 stake, I'm starting a thread to show everyone how it can be done (or undone). Follow me on the bumpy road to success (or failure). Hopefully I can at least make the ride entertaining!



Rules for me:

• stake used for Zoom Poker only
• buy-in: $2.00 tables (if it takes too long to bust or double I may jump to $10.00 tables at the end to finish)
• game: PLO 6 max

Objectives:

• Double the stake (or bust)
• Discipline myself at Zoom by playing with someone else's money, so I stop paying off the nits/idiots at Zoom
• Improve my PLO game
• Teach some basics of PLO along the way to anyone following the thread

Background:

Virtually all of my poker playing has been mulit-tabling NLHE, but I've played Rush, played Zoom, and started PLO Zoom maybe six months ago. The less Zoom I play, the better my Zoom win rate. The more Zoom I play, the worse my losing rate, and then I have to go back to cash tables to rebuild my bankroll. I'm hoping this stake will be the beginning of the end of that trend.

Come along for the ride! I'll be posting bankroll updates, hand histories, and a video or two along the way.

That's based on the assumption that I don't lose it all in the first session ...

Approved !!!

Good luck

gogogogogog!

gl hi-5!

Session #1: 321 hands, played 24/14 (yeah, they don't fold to 3 bets so there's lots of calling), 9.97bb/100, +.064

Aces OOP are a problem sometimes;

Not the greatest Aces, and bad flop, but when he checked the flop back, I didn't believe his turn play.


Hand Information
PokerStars Pot Limit Omaha, 0.02 BB (6 handed).
Hand History converter courtesy of pokerhandreplays.com

Table Information
Seat: 1 yaz1987 ($9.1) Dealer
Seat: 2 Hero ($1.96) Small Blind
Seat: 3 goats-r-us ($2.62) Big Blind
Seat: 4 crazylady140 ($1.37)
Seat: 5 fen11x ($4.01)
Seat: 6 vahzah ($4.43)
Dealt to Hero
[image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/AS.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/TS.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/AC.png]

Preflop (Pot:0.03)
crazylady140 CALL $0.02
fen11x RAISE $0.09
vahzah FOLD
yaz1987 FOLD
Hero RAISE $0.31
goats-r-us FOLD
crazylady140 FOLD
fen11x CALL $0.22

Flop(Pot: $0.67)
[image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/8D.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/TC.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/QH.png]

Hero CHECK
fen11x CHECK

Turn(Pot: $0.67)
[image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/8D.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/TC.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/QH.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/6D.png]

Hero BET $0.4
fen11x RAISE $1.26
Hero ALL-IN
fen11x CALL $0.39

River(Pot: $3.96)
[image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/8D.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/TC.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/QH.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/6D.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/9S.png]

Showdown:
Hero SHOWS
[image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/9H.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/AS.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/TS.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/AC.png]
fen11x SHOWS
[image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/8C.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/3C.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/5D.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/8S.png]
fen11x wins the pot: $3.96

Still managed to get to plus 0.64; bankroll $25.68

Good luck...looking forward to some PLO strategy!

Session #2, 19/13.5, 535 hands, +29.44/100

Still problems with Aces OOP. Here vrs a steal percentage of 60%

Hand Information
PokerStars Pot Limit Omaha, 0.02 BB (6 handed).
Hand History converter courtesy of pokerhandreplays.com

Table Information
Seat: 1 murray3004 ($11.67) Dealer
Seat: 2 Hero ($2.28) Small Blind
Seat: 3 roawa ($1.96) Big Blind
Seat: 4 sodalyte ($2)
Seat: 5 jtsino8 ($5.05)
Seat: 6 bazman76 ($4.89)
Dealt to Hero
[image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/9H.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/AD.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/AC.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/KS.png]

Preflop (Pot:0.03)
sodalyte FOLD
jtsino8 FOLD
bazman76 FOLD
murray3004 RAISE $0.07
Hero RAISE $0.23
roawa FOLD
murray3004 CALL $0.16

Flop(Pot: $0.49)
[image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/5H.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/JS.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/8C.png]

Hero BET $0.3
murray3004 RAISE $0.98
Hero ALL-IN
murray3004 CALL $1.07

Turn(Pot: $4.58)
[image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/5H.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/JS.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/8C.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/3S.png]


River(Pot: $4.58)
[image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/5H.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/JS.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/8C.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/3S.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/7S.png]

Showdown:
Hero SHOWS
[image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/9H.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/AD.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/AC.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/KS.png]
murray3004 SHOWS
[image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/3C.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/JC.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/QC.png] [image: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/images/poker_image/JD.png]
murray3004 wins the pot: $4.58

Bankroll: $28.79

Good hand to flat a 3 bet from the blind? Better if he was full stacked:

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...684_29ECA4D70E

Still having fun; another 242 hands, 1099 total. Bankroll: $29.71

Recorded a video, too long to upload to YouTube; any ideas what to do with it?

Good for the bankroll. Maybe I should do more. Plus 7.53 session; winnings to date: $12.18. Halfway there. Ready for the downswong.

You're doing great 9L--very inspiring. I know you'll get there.

Originally Posted by NineLions

Recorded a video, too long to upload to YouTube; any ideas what to do with it?

split it into multiple parts and upload to youtube?

GL NL

Video from yesterday uploaded.

http://youtu.be/5_67u3XLRlY

It's two tables side by side, so you might want to go full screen. Let me know if there's any problems viewing.

Ignore the visual zooming; it was accidental and I didn't know that I had even done it until I watched, so it's meaningless. And sorry for the scratchy throat.


And, leave me any questions or suggestions. I'm still learning PLO and I didn't get as much strat in the discussion as I had hoped.

Flat, fold, or shove preflop? No reads.

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...171_F97D69C2B5

Downswong initiated: 18/13, -50.5bb/100, -$3.80.

Bankroll: +8.38, total hands so far, 1,650

GL 9Lions. I did fairly well at Zoom PLO. Just make sure you keep tilt under control

Originally Posted by Extreme Fishing

GL 9Lions. I did fairly well at Zoom PLO. Just make sure you keep tilt under control

Yeah, somehow it becomes a big issue much faster than when you multi-table cash games. Maybe because at cash tables tilt can be directed at one player, whereas at Zoom they disappear and you don't have them to focus your frustration.

Only one instance of Zoom, while watching TV.


Can't fold a set of Aces:

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...530_480E5967D1


It's nice to have redraws ....

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...518_5CBC452542


Another plus $9.33, at a clearly sustainable rate of 952.04bb/100.





Totals: Hands: 1,699, Bankroll: Plus $17.71

Originally Posted by NineLions

Flat, fold, or shove preflop? No reads.

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...171_F97D69C2B5

Downswong initiated: 18/13, -50.5bb/100, -$3.80.

Bankroll: +8.38, total hands so far, 1,650

at 2PL i just jam and laugh at the weird and wonderful hands that people will inevitably stack off with

Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus

at 2PL i just jam and laugh at the weird and wonderful hands that people will inevitably stack off with

I do that sometimes too, but maybe too often.

New video, trying to focus on preflop play mostly:

http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_edi...id=uhpmFQ57DuY

Another downswong; overall 2,486 hands, 22.83 bb/100, plus $ 11.35

Originally Posted by NineLions

New video, trying to focus on preflop play mostly:

http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_edi...id=uhpmFQ57DuY

Another downswong; overall 2,486 hands, 22.83 bb/100, plus $ 11.35

Wrong video link?

Originally Posted by mootso

Wrong video link?

Maybe;

Steak 2 - YouTube

Ooo, now it embeds

More downswong after the video, bankroll down to plus $3 or so by the end.

When I know that I'm down I consciously try to tighten up my preflop range, which I did, but today I tried to open it up again; 22/16, and managed to get some back. I think maybe my normal PLO game is on the verge of too tight, and when I run back then I make it too tight?

Anyway, graph to date. atm plus $9.70

Ninelions' "Crawl Very Slowly to Double the CardsChat Stake" thread?

Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus

Ninelions' "Crawl Very Slowly to Double the CardsChat Stake" thread?

Ye, very slowly. Mostly, though not all, my conscious doing.

I had hoped to have this done one way or other before November, but didn't get there. Then November was filled with NaNoWriMo, and now I'm editing. Plus, it still just went slower than expected

Part of the idea of playing with the CC stake was to help me fold when I'm behind, but my showdown line indicates I'm being folded too often, though my W$SD is 49.5% so maybe not. Maybe I just don't run good enough to make money at Zoom.

Update: Probably the slowest staking ever. But I had planned for it to be done in the first month, cept it went down after getting close. And then down further, until I started playing again and now getting close to even again.

I can do what ever with the steak; return it, take it to 0.05/0.10 for faster results, or, since I'm on an upswing, hang on to it for the time being. I kin return it whenever y'all want it back, but maybe I can figure this out yet. I suspect it requires more willingness to stack with more draws, and a whole heck of a lot of patience.

What say you, Sir Dorkus?

We're taking a break from the staking contest for a while once this round of stakes is done, so if you're happy enough to carry on at a slow pace I'm not that bothered as long as you keep updating.

That said, if you want to gamboool, then go for it. Basically, I'm easy.

Upswing continues; back above par again.

Still above even. But still not there.

GL 9L
dont think it will take you too long to succeed
zoom PLO-interesting
(ive just starting enjoying zoom, guess im playing it for quick points on a few sites, with a bit better success than last time)

On a bit of an upswing again; almost there ....

Mind you, I was almost there a few hands ago too, and then dropped almost half, before recovery. Ah, the joys of variance.

Ooo, and just like that, done.

Apparently the secret to 0.01/0.02 PLO Zoom is:


Play 4 instances at once, while listening to a movie. That's what I've been doing this afternoon during the upswing since the last downswing.

Well done

Nice 9lions!