Help with my new hold'em program

#1 29th August 2012, 12:40 AM

Hi there, I have just come a little unstuck with an attempt to complete a Texas Holdem computer program. I have decided to back track and redo the main play code. (All of it) I need a little help with some game scenarios that mechanically I need to know about and I feel stuck with.

scenario 1: The players have no cards, but the flop has 1 pair. With only 3 kickers available, and the players whole cards less then the remaining 3 flop cards, how does the play work with the kickers. Does the players whole cards count?.. or can the best players whole cards be used to handle the kicker objective? (or is it a draw ?)

#2 29th August 2012, 4:02 PM

The players have no cards, then they have "whole" cards that are less than the flop "kickers" of which two are paired...

That makes absolutely no sense. I think you need to get a better grasp on poker before you start writing a program about it, or you need to write out an absolute specific scenario:
Hole Cards Player 1: xx
Hole Cards Player 2: xx
Hole Cards Player 3: xx
Flop Cards: As5h5d
etc.

#3 29th August 2012, 4:15 PM

is this one of those "if a tree falls in the woods and no-one is around to hear it does it make a sound?" type of questions?

#4 29th August 2012, 9:18 PM

Players whole cards has less value then the 3 cards remaining in the flop, with a single pair in the flop. (You need to get a grip of intelligence before you make stupid comments half-whit)

Texas Hold'em
Flop Ace Ace 10 9 7 (3)Players Whole cards 2 3 4 5 6 3 Who Wins?

#5 29th August 2012, 9:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike smith

Hi there, I have just come a little unstuck with an attempt to complete a Texas Holdem computer program. I have decided to back track and redo the main play code. (All of it) I need a little help with some game scenarios that mechanically I need to know about and I feel stuck with.

scenario 1: The players have no cards, but the flop has 1 pair. With only 3 kickers available, and the players whole cards less then the remaining 3 flop cards, how does the play work with the kickers. Does the players whole cards count?.. or can the best players whole cards be used to handle the kicker objective? (or is it a draw ?)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike smith

Players whole cards has less value then the 3 cards remaining in the flop, with a single pair in the flop. (You need to get a grip of intelligence before you make stupid comments half-whit)

Texas Hold'em
Flop Ace Ace 10 9 7 (3)Players Whole cards 2 3 4 5 6 3 Who Wins?

Perhaps it's YOU who need to get a "grip of intelligence" before YOU make stupid posts. Also, it's "half-wit" as in "YOU are a half-wit". Finally, maybe, just maybe, you should try to understand the basics of poker before you decide to write a program about it.

#6 29th August 2012, 9:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike smith

Players hole cards have less value than the 3 cards remaining in the flop, with a single pair in the flop. (You need to get a grip of intelligence before you make stupid comments half-whit)

Texas Hold'em
Flop Ace Ace 10 9 7 (3)Player's Hole cards 2 3 4 5 6 3 Who Wins?

I just bolded the corrections to your post for you, since you're so intelligent that you don't know the difference between spellings of words.

Also, the flop contains 3 cards, whereas in your example, you have 5(A,A,10,9,7). And you some how come up with 6 hole cards, of which there are two in Hold'em. So either you are talking about a made up poker game that is absolutely nothing like Hold'em or you are the half-whit.

#7 29th August 2012, 9:59 PM

i like the bit where the player went from having no (w)hole cards to having 6 of them

#8 29th August 2012, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus

i like the bit where the player went from having no (w)hole cards to having 6 of them

Do you think that's the problem with the program?

#9 29th August 2012, 10:36 PM

Thread of the year....

#10 29th August 2012, 10:40 PM

Whole cards beat half cards. That much should be clear.

However, if the whole card falls on the ground, and the players are at the bar, can the half card still be heard.....

No wait,.....

If the whole card splits, and no one bets, can the whole card be...

no wait...

if the half card gets in a hole..

no wait...

how many cards could a whole care hole if a whole card could hole card...

no wait.......

uhhhhh.

whole in one is when..

uhhh

wait............

..

got me, I really am not sure....

#11 29th August 2012, 10:44 PM

BTW, I know a Mike Smith and I told him about this (Whole) forum

You aint puttin one over on us, are ya Mike????

(Please say you didnt use me as a referral....lol)

#12 29th August 2012, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fletchdad

(Please say you didnt use me as a referral....lol)

He didn't

HERE IS A REAL LEGIT ANSWER TO WHAT I THINK THE OP IS TRYING TO ASK

If the board is say AAJT9 and both players in the pot have two cards have two holecards that are less than 9 then the pot is split because both players have the same hand, that being the five cards on the board.

#13 30th August 2012, 12:03 AM

The interesting thing to me is that he doesn't even understand simple principles of Hold'em, yet he is trying to write a program for it. If he's getting a simple thing like this wrong; what ELSE is AFU with his "program"?

#14 30th August 2012, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fletchdad

Whole cards beat half cards. That much should be clear.

However, if the whole card falls on the ground, and the players are at the bar, can the half card still be heard.....

No wait,.....

If the whole card splits, and no one bets, can the whole card be...

no wait...

if the half card gets in a hole..

no wait...

how many cards could a whole care hole if a whole card could hole card...

no wait.......

uhhhhh.

whole in one is when..

uhhh

wait............

..

got me, I really am not sure....

Love this...I vote this post to be post of the year

#15 31st August 2012, 2:07 PM

^^^
That just cracked me up!!!!! lol Too funny!

#16 31st August 2012, 2:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus

if a tree falls in the woods and no-one is around to hear it does it make a sound?"

Obviously. Conservation of energy is not observer dependent.

#17 18th September 2012, 10:43 PM

You are a LOOSER and you have never being anything else.

#18 18th September 2012, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike smith

You are a LOOSER and you have never being anything else.

I edited out the rest of his stupidity after I banned him but I'll leave this line as a reminder of just how stupid this idiot was.

#19 18th September 2012, 10:50 PM

Quote:

You are a LOOSER and you have never being anything else.

Well....perhaps I am "looser". I can't really be sure until I know what I'm being compared to. By the way, how, exactly is that program going you "pro" you who don't even know the simple rules of poker? Nice job, bet people a lining-up now to purchase this wonderful piece of software you're creating with your "pro" abilities.

#20 18th September 2012, 10:51 PM

Doh...sorry WVH. Feel free to delete the whole thing and/or my post to clean things up. Whatever works for you. Thx.

#21 18th September 2012, 10:53 PM

Already done.

#22 18th September 2012, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike smith

You are a LOOSER and you have never being anything else.

Sir, may I point out that CONSTRUCTIVE critisisum is what you asked for. Berating fellow members isn`t a wise thing sir and I feel an apology is definatly warrented . Besides that a little fun being poked at you, you haven`t any reason to so venomously attack someone. I have made mistakes in my life and you sir have just made one and should"MAN UP" to it. Good luck in completing your program and may I suggest that you read a few books to complete your project. Also, look at some of the strategy videos offered here . Perhaps they might be of assitance.

#23 19th September 2012, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trimming1

Sir, may I point out that CONSTRUCTIVE critisisum is what you asked for. Berating fellow members isn`t a wise thing sir and I feel an apology is definatly warrented . Besides that a little fun being poked at you, you haven`t any reason to so venomously attack someone. I have made mistakes in my life and you sir have just made one and should"MAN UP" to it. Good luck in completing your program and may I suggest that you read a few books to complete your project. Also, look at some of the strategy videos offered here . Perhaps they might be of assitance.

He was banned before you ever wrote this post.

#24 19th September 2012, 5:28 AM

As a long-time programmer, I can only imagine the level of this idiot's programming competence. All 3 of his posts exuded such an outrageous amount of stupid that I find it miraculous he was computer literate enough to get on the internet, find this forum, signup, and manage to post 3 times without hurting himself. Much less accomplish any programming.

Oh wait, he's probably using Visual Basic. So yeah he could be a "programmer" I guess...

(sorry, have to get my VB barbs in where I can)

#25 19th September 2012, 5:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BelgoSuisse

Obviously. Conservation of energy is not observer dependent.

perception is tho

#26 19th September 2012, 6:42 AM

Hole-ee f.uc.k! get a whole'd of yourself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fletchdad

Whole cards beat half cards. That much should be clear.

However, if the whole card falls on the ground, and the players are at the bar, can the half card still be heard.....

No wait,.....

If the whole card splits, and no one bets, can the whole card be...

no wait...

if the half card gets in a hole..

no wait...

how many cards could a whole care hole if a whole card could hole card...

no wait.......

uhhhhh.

whole in one is when..

uhhh

wait............

..

got me, I really am not sure....

#27 19th September 2012, 7:23 AM

We will miss you mike, a hole lot........

no, wait................

#28 19th September 2012, 7:58 AM

lmfao +1

Quote:

Originally Posted by fletchdad

Whole cards beat half cards. That much should be clear.

However, if the whole card falls on the ground, and the players are at the bar, can the half card still be heard.....

No wait,.....

If the whole card splits, and no one bets, can the whole card be...

no wait...

if the half card gets in a hole..

no wait...

how many cards could a whole care hole if a whole card could hole card...

no wait.......

uhhhhh.

whole in one is when..

uhhh

wait............

..

got me, I really am not sure....

#29 19th September 2012, 9:52 AM

This thread just keeps on getting better...And some how Mike Smith got banned (Which I don't understand the reason for it), could it be because of sheer stupidity alone?

If that's the case then Mike Smith you take the thread of the year awards for making me laugh with your W/E it was that you were asking (Which I still have no clue about TBH)..

Fletchdad takes the post of the year with his down right hilarious comment

and I just want to say I love this thread (Plz if Mike smith is banned I vote to reinstate him because what other magical ideas could he possibly come up)? with

#30 19th September 2012, 9:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naruto_miu

(Plz if Mike smith is banned I vote to reinstate him because what other magical ideas could he possibly come up)

agreed!
Who knows what could've been?

#31 19th September 2012, 1:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naruto_miu

This thread just keeps on getting better...And some how Mike Smith got banned (Which I don't understand the reason for it), could it be because of sheer stupidity alone?

If that's the case then Mike Smith you take the thread of the year awards for making me laugh with your W/E it was that you were asking (Which I still have no clue about TBH)..

Fletchdad takes the post of the year with his down right hilarious comment

and I just want to say I love this thread (Plz if Mike smith is banned I vote to reinstate him because what other magical ideas could he possibly come up)? with

There were a couple of posts that WVH deleted that just went way, way over the line with derogatory comments. Don't see him getting un-banned any time soon.

#32 19th September 2012, 2:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naruto_miu

And some how Mike Smith got banned (Which I don't understand the reason for it), could it be because of sheer stupidity alone?

If that's the case then Mike Smith you take the thread of the year awards for making me laugh with your W/E it was that you were asking (Which I still have no clue about TBH)..

You didn't see the comment that was edited. Like that looser Rudy said, it was beyond over the top, and absolutely not tolerated. Just be happy that WVH didn't nuke all his posts.

#33 19th September 2012, 2:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceeQ

.... Like that looser Rudy said....

#34 19th September 2012, 2:17 PM

Looser.

#35 19th September 2012, 2:37 PM

i wonder what his program was going to be called? - 'Looser Poker'?

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